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1 | Why did God test Adam and Eve ? | Genesis | swerv | 155100 | ||
Mark: Yes I follow Gods command to rest from work from sundown Friday until sundown Saturday. I feel it is a great blessing to live in a country that allows one the freedom to worship how and when they feel called. And yes it has caused me to alter my career. I fully agree that every opportunity should be taken to study the Bible and fellowship. If you can do it 7 days a week - then great. But at the same time God clearly instructs us to provide for our family which should revolve around 1st day to 6th day. But of course - if the work schedule permits and it does not take valuable time away from your family - then yes be involved with the Church activities to grow and spread the gospel. Remember - it was the Jews who added law upon law and made the Sabbath a burdensome stone. God never intended it to be that way. It is a blessing ! Not doing work on that day is to be a blessing not a bunch of irretable restrictions that cause us more heachaches. As I have repeated many times - Rom. 14 and Col. 2:16 -- are taken purposely out of context to support doing away with the Sabbath. Rom. 14 -- is all about idol worship and esteemed unclean meat from idol sacrifices and the sabbaths or special days are not referring to the 7th day Sabbath but instead the additional sabbath feasts. Remember the gentiles came into the faith without these Jewish feasts. The Jewish Christians thought the new gentile Christians should keep the Jewish feasts. But remember these feasts are a shaddow of Christs coming to be the perfect sacrifice for sins. Once Christ died on the cross - His death ripped the veil in the sanctuary and thus ending the sacrificial system and all the feats surrounding this system. We no longer sacrifice lambs or keep these feasts - right !!!! Unfortunately, the devil has spread his lies in the mainstream Church to lead people away from following Gods commands. But again this is my belief and I feel I have the scriptures to justify this reasoning. Love in Christ, Swerv |
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2 | Why did God test Adam and Eve ? | Genesis | swerv | 155098 | ||
BradK: I respect your comments but I will continue to insist that you not respond unless you wish to discuss these issues of which I am searching for clear answers. Of course, I may have my beliefs but I am open minded and wish to prove all things. In love, Swerv |
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3 | Why did God test Adam and Eve ? | Genesis | swerv | 155095 | ||
Hi Beseder: Yes Rom. 14 is an area of debate on its context and meaning. I believe the context is about the uncleanliness of food due to idol sacrifices. And the sabbaths talked about are the ceremonial sabbaths that were added by God to point them to Christs coming and His replacement of the sacrificial laws which included keeping these aditional sabbaths. The unclean meat was laid out to Gods people after the flood. The Sabbath was created in the beginning and has been followed since creation. Romans 14 has nothing to due with giving permission to eat unclean meat which God says defiles the body and is an abomination. The esteemed unclean meat had to with idol contamination. Since the meat was offered to idols it was esteemed to now be unclean. But Paul says and idol is nothing so the Christians were not to judge one another on this issue. Also, the 7th Day Sabbath is not the subject in Romans 14. Instead it is the additional sabbath feast which the Christians should not judge each other on. Look forward to your reply, Swerv |
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4 | Why did God test Adam and Eve ? | Genesis | swerv | 155094 | ||
Hey Steve: Been awhile since we have discussed issues. It is not myself that whats the 7th day as the Sabbath - I am trying to find out what God wants. Your saying we have to obey the legal systems of the country. Why then did Daniel not bow down to the idol. The reason is it went against Gods commands. So also we need to follow the command of the Sabbath - and I believe it is the 7th day. Of course we obey the rules of our country as long as they do not conflict with Gods commands. According to prophecy - I do believe that soon Sunday will be enforced as a day we must honour. Good talking to you again, Swerv |
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5 | What is 'the fruit of the vine'? | Matt 26:29 | swerv | 155088 | ||
I believe the use of the word wine can refer to both fermented and unfermented. God approves wine in the cluster which is the unfermented wine. I think the Bible teaches use to not use alcohol unless for health reasons. Swerv |
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6 | Why two tablets ??? | Is 33:22 | swerv | 155083 | ||
Doc: I would hope you would share the verses that support eternal hell and torment from a loving and merciful God. Also - please refute the verses I have given you about how there is no immortality upon death and there is no eternal hell of torment but rather a hell of destruction and perish of the soul. Remember the discussion is not that there is hell judgement and punishment but rather if hell is a place and is eternal. In love, Swerv |
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7 | Why two tablets ??? | Is 33:22 | swerv | 155082 | ||
I thank you for the prayers ! Goes does not hide the truth - it is plain to see if we have a heart willing to seek. Swerv |
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8 | Why two tablets ??? | Is 33:22 | swerv | 155080 | ||
Dear fedexguy: Thanks for the response ! I think you will agree that unless we challenge ourselves to prove all things - we may fall prey to false doctrines. I am not saying I do not believe there is hell as far as punishment. Of course the scriptures are clear. But what I whole heartedly disagree is the teaching of eternal hell of torment and hell being an eternal place for the wicked, ungodly and unrighteous. I believe hell is the punishment by fire. It is the perishing of the soul. But eternal it is definetely not. Math. 3:12 - unquenchable fire - it cannot be put out but it will go out when the fire has burned everything up. Jer. 17:27 and 2 Chronicles 36:19,21 - talk about Jerusalems punishment - the fire will not be quenched. - My point here is that Jerusalem is still not burning now. So the fire did go out. Similarily, the hell fire destruction of the wicked will go out once everything is burned up. The destruction is eternal since the souls will being eternally destoyed. The wicked will never ever become living souls as Gen.2:7 says. Hell: Rom. 6:23 and Johm 3:16 both talk about death and perish as a result of sin. Does God give an immortal soul to a sinner so he -she can spend the rest of eternity in torment. Well lets see: Psalm 37:10,20 - the wicked shall not be ...the wicked shall perish ...into smoke shall they consume away. --- seems like perishing to me or no more existence adter punishment by death. Malachi 4:1,3 - the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven .. and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble; and the day that cometh shall burn them up...and ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet. ---- sounds like perishing to me ! Rev. 20:9 - fire cam down from heaven and devoured them. 2 Peter 3:10 - the earth and all the works that are therein shall be burned up. ** again - burned up and devoured sounds like destruction - not immortality. Ezekiel 18:4 - the soul that sinneth, it shall die. Man is mortal and God is immortal. 1 Tim. 6:15-16 - only God has immortality. The righteous dead and living will be given immortality when Jesus returns. There is no soul that goes to heaven or hell upon death. John 11:11 - says Lazarus sleepeth - Lazurus is dead. Acts 2:34 - David is not yet ascended into the heavens. Heb. 11:32-40 - says tyhe faithful of the ages will be rewarded together becuase they have not yet been rewarded. Math.27:52 - saints which slept arose. Ecc. 9:5,6,10 - the dead know not anything - why because they sleep in the grave until the resurection. Psalm 115:17 - the dead praise not the Lord Psalm 146:4 - his thoughts perish Gen.2:7 - when God gave adam the breadth of life or Gods spirit - he became a living soul. Without the breadth of life there is no soul to exist. Only God can give that back like He did to Lazarus. Ecc.12:7 - explains how upon death the spirit or breath of life returns to God who gave it !! So Doc - I believe scipture clearly teaches that the soul can die, we do not have an immortal soul upon death and there is not eternal hell but rather we are destroyed forever if we are found to be unrighteous. 1 Cor. 15:51-53 - absolutley says that at the time of resurection the righteous will recieve immortality. Let me know, Swerv |
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9 | Why two tablets ??? | Is 33:22 | swerv | 155078 | ||
Doc: Yes I will provide the answers since you asked and I would appreciate your response to the verses. Now Doc I felt we had agreed to be respectful. I am not a member of the Seventh Day Adventist Church. As I have said I am searching for the truth and currently not committed to any Church. I grew up in the Church (Free Methodist and Baptist). I wish you would not assume things. There are many denominations that have similar beliefs to SDA. And I have no idea what a pledge thingy is ! Hell: Rom. 6:23 and Johm 3:16 both talk about death and perish as a result of sin. Does God give an immortal soul to a sinner so he -she can spend the rest of eternity in torment. Well lets see: Psalm 37:10,20 - the wicked shall not be ...the wicked shall perish ...into smoke shall they consume away. --- seems like perishing to me or no more existence adter punishment by death. Malachi 4:1,3 - the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven .. and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble; and the day that cometh shall burn them up...and ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet. ---- sounds like perishing to me ! Rev. 20:9 - fire cam down from heaven and devoured them. 2 Peter 3:10 - the earth and all the works that are therein shall be burned up. ** again - burned up and devoured sounds like destruction - not immortality. Ezekiel 18:4 - the soul that sinneth, it shall die. Man is mortal and God is immortal. 1 Tim. 6:15-16 - only God has immortality. The righteous dead and living will be given immortality when Jesus returns. There is no soul that goes to heaven or hell upon death. John 11:11 - says Lazarus sleepeth - Lazurus is dead. Acts 2:34 - David is not yet ascended into the heavens. Heb. 11:32-40 - says tyhe faithful of the ages will be rewarded together becuase they have not yet been rewarded. Math.27:52 - saints which slept arose. Ecc. 9:5,6,10 - the dead know not anything - why because they sleep in the grave until the resurection. Psalm 115:17 - the dead praise not the Lord Psalm 146:4 - his thoughts perish Gen.2:7 - when God gave adam the breadth of life or Gods spirit - he became a living soul. Without the breadth of life there is no soul to exist. Only God can give that back like He did to Lazarus. Ecc.12:7 - explains how upon death the spirit or breath of life returns to God who gave it !! So Doc - I believe scipture clearly teaches that the soul can die, we do not have an immortal soul upon death and there is not eternal hell but rather we are destroyed forever if we are found to be unrighteous. 1 Cor. 15:51-53 - absolutley says that at the time of resurection the righteous will recieve immortality. Let me know, Swerv |
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10 | Does God love everybody? | Rom 8:39 | swerv | 155069 | ||
Hi WOS: God can choose to use someone, bless someone, make a covenant with someone but that does not mean God controls the hearts and desires of men. Obedience reflects love - just like Gods commandment to honour your father and mother. Now do we do this because we have to or do we do it because we love our parents. In the NT we now have the Holy Spirit to give use the power to overcome temptation to sin. We all we all will be tempted but we are commanded by God - if you love me - keep my commandments. In the OT the laws were not written on their hearts but on stone. It was the people who promised to keep the laws and as a result that is what made the OT covenant faulty because they could not keep the law which was there promise. The sacrificial laws were put in place to atone for sin. Now we do not sacrifice - why - because Jesus has paid the price for our past sins. But now His example and the Holy Spirit enables us to obey His laws. Nothing is earned by us. The free gift of Gods grace and our faith reflected by obedience is all that required to reveal our hearts are changed. All that really needs to be said is this. Prior to Adam and Eve sinning they still were required by God to obey Him. Do not eat fro the tree. They were sinless and yet they still had a law to keep. That should put an end to the discussion as to why we need to be obedient. John 3:16 say God wishes none will perish. If we are chosen and God wishes none to perish - then why does He not save all ! Faith is reflected by obedience. Cannot have one without the other. Abraham had faith but still carried out the killing of his son until he was stopped. If you love me keep my commandments. Math. 7:21 puts it pretty clear what God expects of us. Math. 5:48. Yes we are all sinful but that is not excuse to keep sinning. The OT people could not keep the laws because they tried on there own strength. But we now have the power of the Holy Spirit. Sorry but Gods plan is not to send a flood and probably kill millions. It was because of their wickednes that God got angry and sent a flood. If you go by your thinking then - Gods plan was for wickedness to grow and fill the whole world so he would have to send a flood. You dont really think this is true - right. Yes that was a great quote from MH. I personnly believe that law has existed since creation. Gen. 26:5 is clear that Abraham was following Gods law. The only reason God made the covenant at Sinai was since it was for a whole nation which He saved out of bondage. God remembered the covenant with Abraham. He wrote out the laws because the people needed to be reminded what Gods laws were. That is why God first tested the people about the Sabbath prior to them even getting to Sinai. God said to Moses - I will test the people to see if they will keep My law. That was the Sabbath day test. Did you know that the sacrificial laws were put in the side of the ark but the 10 commandments were put directly inside the ark. I believe the 7th day sabbath still stands today and was not changed to Sunday. Let me know, Swerv |
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11 | Noah took 7 clean but only 2 unclean ? | Gen 9:3 | swerv | 155057 | ||
Hi Doc: I respect your comments ! Lets stick with scripture and reasoning -Amen ! Math. 15. Nowhere in the context does Jesus discuss unclean meat. The matter being discussed is unclean hands making the food the disciples were eating unclean. So we are clear the food was unclean not because it was pork but rather because it was unclean from touching it with unclean hands. Therefore when Jesus said it is not what goes into the mouth that makes you unclean - Jesus was not referring to unlean meats but rather the unclean hands making the food unclean. Now Jesus ABSOLUTELY makes His teaching clear by later in the passage - eating with UNCLEAN HANDS does not defile the man but what comes out of the mouth defiles a man. So I believe two major points support my position - 1) the text is only talking about EATING WITH UNCLEAN HANDS and 2) JESUS CLEARLY STATES EATING WITH UNCLEAN HANDS DOES NOT DEFILE A MAN. Nowhere is it stated that eating unclean meat (animals) does not defile a man. Why not - because that would go directly against the God of the OT. And I assume we both believe in the Triune God (ONE God - three persons). Now to further support why Math. 15 is consistently taken out of context to support a false teaching that eating unclean meat is now ok. In Acts Peter (the same Peter who was present in Math. 15) has a vision and God tells him to eat unclean animals (meat). Peter disobeyed God three times and did not eat and came off the roof confused. He was wondering why God would command him to eat unclean animals and to not call things unclean that God calls clean. HHUUMM - Ok lets look what happened. Peter went to the Cornelius and then he understood the vision. God was trying to wake Peter up to the fact that gentiles were no longer to be called unclean people. No where does Peter say unclean meat is now clean. Peter even repeats the experience to his fellow disciples later in Jerusalem and says nothing about unclean meat being now clean. Instead he tells the only meaning od the vision which was to wake up Peter to the fact that gentiles are not to be called unclean and now the gospel can be preached to them. So maybe you wonder why I bring Peter into this discussion. Ok - not only have I shown that the vision only meant that gentiles were now clean BUT Peter had been present at Math. 15 and now it is many years later and I would think that if Jesus supposedly taught that all unclean animals are now clean - Peter would not have disobeyed God in the vision. But clearly Peter disobeyed because 1) Jesus never made unclean meat clean and 2) Peter knew for a fact that eating unclean animals was wrong. This is why Peter was so confused because he did not understand why His God would want him to eating unclean meat that would defile his body. It just did not make sense until the Holy Spirit revealed the true meaning of the vision. God was intentionally using the command to eat the unclean animals to make Peter realize that God wanted the disciples to go preach to the gentiles. Rom. 14 - is not discussing unclean and clean meat but rather the issue about meat being unclean due to idol worship. Remember an idol is nothing according to Paul. Just like the unclean hands making the food unclean and the idol sacrifice making the meat unclean - the actual food or meat is not unclean but it is esteemed to be unclean by the person. God has clearly laid out exaclty what meats are ACTUALLY unclean. Col. 2:16 - is not discussing unclean or clean meats but rather the food and drink sacrifices that were made on the additionals sabbaths and festival days. Since those days were a shaddow of the coming Christ sacrifice - they are not longer required. Just like we no longer sacrifice lambs - we no longer keep those additional sabbaths. They were called sabbaths just like the 7th day. But the 7th day was created and observed since creation. Please let me know, Swerv |
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12 | Does God love everybody? | Rom 8:39 | swerv | 155055 | ||
WOS: Hello - nice to correspond. I did not say we must earn our salvation. I think you read my response incorrectly. The elect are those who are obedient to The WORD of God and obey his laws and commandments. And I did not say man dictates the perfect plan of God. God has His plan and wishes no man perish. Perish means to me that there is no eternal hell ! In Christ, Swerv |
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13 | Noah took 7 clean but only 2 unclean ? | Gen 9:3 | swerv | 155054 | ||
Hi CDBJ: You seem to want to be a mediator ! But I do not appreciate your sarcasm. Why do you feel I am the only one with the right answer. And if this is such an easy question - then why are you asking it ! Let me know the easy answer and then I will comment if I think it is biblical ! Sincerly, Swerv |
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14 | Why two tablets ??? | Is 33:22 | swerv | 155053 | ||
Yes Hank - you are correct. What I said is confusing - I read it over and I said it in a confusing manner. OK - my stance is that certain doctines have been adopted by incorrect human interpretation and many doctrines are just plain tradition that has no roots in the Gospel taught by Christ and the disciples. Reasoning should be used by each individual to discern truth or false teaching. I just feel that basing a position on 500-1000 years of tradition is just not wise. Now I am not saying that anyone is doing this deiberately but I will give you an example. The teaching of Hell as eternal place of torment goes back to early Roman Catholic times. I just think this teaching remains as doctrine based soley on tradition instead of on biblical facts. Let me know, Swerv |
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15 | Noah took 7 clean but only 2 unclean ? | Gen 9:3 | swerv | 155026 | ||
Kalos: I am looking for sound biblical answers to my questions and comments. If you want to provide biblical answers then feel free. I wish to search for the truth. In my opinion, there is no denominational bias if one is searching for the truth. There can only be only one truth or Jesus would be a liar. There is only one way to salvation. Denominations have clouded the truth. Please do not respond unless you want to discuss in a respectful and mature fashion. Sincerely, Swerv |
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16 | Noah took 7 clean but only 2 unclean ? | Gen 9:3 | swerv | 155020 | ||
Doc: I am sorry you feel this way ! I am only responding to your comments. You need not respond anymore then you have no problem. Maybe you should focus on your goals for what you want to attain from this forum and not worry about other people. You seem to be going out of your way to cause a conflict by acting as the police of this forum. You have no right to judge my intentions or my beliefs. You have the right to discuss your understanding of truth in a resopectful and mature way. I wish to discuss the biblical issues and strive to see the truth clearly. Again, if you wish to discuss the bible then I look forward to your comments or questions. Sincerely, Swerv |
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17 | Was everything really created in 7 days | Gen 1:2 | swerv | 155017 | ||
Royfish: Yes fully agree - I assume you also believe the days of creation were literal days. Each creative day was said to have morning and evening. Do you believe the 7th day is the only Holy day made by God. Swerv |
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18 | Noah took 7 clean but only 2 unclean ? | Gen 9:3 | swerv | 155016 | ||
Doc: I respect you have a different set of Christian beliefs. If you want to discuss the differences and show me where there is biblical support for eternal Hell (place of torment to non-believers), or support for an immediate immortal soul upon death (either in Hell or Heaven), or support for the 1st day being made Holy, or support for a 7 year tribulation period, or support or eating unclean meat -------- then I will be happy to discuss them sharing clear and concise biblical verse to support my understanding of truth in these areas. If you wish not too then I would advise you to respond to other comments or questions. Look forward to honest discussion or I wish you all the best and pray you have confidence in you understanding of truth, Swerv |
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19 | Noah took 7 clean but only 2 unclean ? | Gen 9:3 | swerv | 155012 | ||
Glad to here that. I believe clean and unclean is ignored by the Church today. But there is really no good reason for it. Health and science is proving the diet of God to be correct and best for our health. Please let me know what you think of the Sabbath issue - as far as it being Saturday or Sunday or does it really matter. I believe the 10 commandments were wrote on stone for a very good reason. They were meant to show they are permanent. Actually I believe the 10 commandment moral principles have existed since creation until our modern era. If God made the 7th day to be Holy - why would it be changed. All the best, Swerv |
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20 | Noah took 7 clean but only 2 unclean ? | Gen 9:3 | swerv | 153779 | ||
Well Hank: You have the right to not respond to my questions or notes. But from looking at the guidelines I think sharing truth and knowledge is the goal of the forum. I look forward to "reasoning" what that truth is from the scriptures. But you should look at the guidelines where we are to be respectful ! Searching for truth, Swerv |
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