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1 | Does any body knows the 12 names of God | Bible general Archive 1 | sisterkath | 78697 | ||
Hank, Was I ahead? There is but one "Almighty God" and he name is, Jehovah. There is but one "Son" and his name is, Jesus Christ. I do not agree with the Trinity, and say that Jesus is Jehovah. Nice try, trying to put words into my mouth. One last note, before I leave this board, Acts 13:41; "Behold it, YOU scorners, and wonder at it, and vanish away, because I am working a work in YOUR days, a work that YOU will by no means believe even if anyone relates it to YOU in detail." 1 Corinthians 8:5,6; For even though there are those who are called "gods," whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many "gods" and many "lords," there is actually to us one God, the Father, out of whom all things are, and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are, and we through him. 1 Corinthians 11:3; But I want YOU to know that the head of every man is the Christ; in turn the head of a woman is the man; in turn the head of the Christ is God. Philipians 2:5,6; Keep this mental attitude in YOU that was also in Christ Jesus, who, although he was existing in God's form, gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that he should be equal to God. Colossians 3:17; And whatever it is that YOU do in word or in work, do everything in the name of the Lord Jesus, thanking God the Father through him. 1 Timothy 2:5 For there is ONE God, and ONE mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus. 2 Timothy 2:23; Further, turn down foolish and ignorant questionings, knowing they produce fights. Last but not lest, Acts 2:21; And everyone who calls on the name of JEHOVAH will be saved. |
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2 | Does any body knows the 12 names of God | Bible general Archive 1 | sisterkath | 78653 | ||
Hank, If its not in the Bible, don't belieave it. But it certainly teaches Trinity. I'm sorry you think that. Maybe you can explain to me, how you came about the Trinity? sisterkath |
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3 | Does any body knows the 12 names of God | Bible general Archive 1 | sisterkath | 78638 | ||
Ray, I feel I did address my point to Hank, but not maybe to you! Do you have something against me Ray? I never said that "Abba" was not in Greek! Matter of fact, I am looking at it now. Father, customary title used of God in prayer, Abba, approximating a personal name, framed by the lips of infants betokens unreasoning trust. Gather expresses an intelligent apprhension of the relationship by he child. The two together express the love and intelligent confidence of the child. Mk 14:36; Rom 8:15; Gal 4:6 I don't see how this relates to what Hank and I were talking about! Could you please tell me? OOOOO but make it easy, so I understand!! sisterkath |
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4 | Does any body knows the 12 names of God | Bible general Archive 1 | sisterkath | 78633 | ||
Hi Ray, I agree, I don't see why we can't talk under peaceful conditions. Did I say anything "out of the way"? May I ask, just what are you trying to tell me? We are all guilty before God; and those who vaunt it over the frailties and infirmities of others little think how many things they offend in themselves. Let us learn to be severe in judging ourselves, but charitable in our judgments of other people. Matthew Henry's sisterkath |
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5 | Does any body knows the 12 names of God | Bible general Archive 1 | sisterkath | 78632 | ||
Hi Ray, In the New World Translation it reads; "YOU must pray, then, this way; "Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified*." * Or, "be held sacred; he treated as holy." Gr., ha.gi.a.sthe'to; Lat., snc.ti.fi.ce'tur; J17,18 Hebrew., yit.gad.dash', "let be santified." John 17:1; Jesus spoke these things, and raising his eyes to heaven, he said: "Father, the hour has come; glorify your son, that your son may glorify you." In this verse, Jesus is asking his "Father" Jehovah, to glorify him "Son", Jesus, that your son may glorify you." I don't see no Trinity in this verse! sisterkath |
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6 | Does any body knows the 12 names of God | Bible general Archive 1 | sisterkath | 78462 | ||
Hank, I agree with you. The truth is, nobody knows for sure how the name of God was originally pronounced. Nevertheless, many prefer the pronunciation Jehovah. Awabakal - Yehoa Bugotu - Jihova Cantonese - Yehwowah Danish - Jehova Dutch - Jehovah Efik - Jehovah English - Jehovah Finnish - Jehova French - Jehovah Futuna - Ihova German - Jehova Hungarian - Jehova Igbo - Jehova Italian - Geova Japanese - Ehoba Narrinyeri - Jehovah And the list can go on. Even though the modern pronunciation Jehovah might not be exactly the way it was pronounced originally, this in no way detracts from the importance of the name. It identifies the Creator, the living God, the Most High to whom Jesus said: "Our Father in the Heaven, let your name be sanctified." Matthew 6:9 |
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7 | Almighty and Mighty God | Is 9:6 | sisterkath | 78041 | ||
Hi Tim, How can you say what I posted is imaginary distinctions between words? And your right, there is only one true "Almighty GOD, Jehovah. Not, Jesus his Son. How many times must Jesus say, "I am the Son of God, before YOU will belieave it? At "the end", we all will know who the "true god" is. I put my faith into the same GOD, whom Jesus prayed to while on earth, whom he loved and obeyed. You disagree with the WTBTS, not JW's. YOU disagree with the organization, not the people in it. For it is written, "Love Thy Neighbor". JW's only have one GOD and that is Jehovah. Not the Son of God, Jesus Christ. Who is right? What is written in The Bible, Jehovah. I don't ignore any word that is written in The Bible. sisterkath |
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8 | taking out time to show them Christ . | Mark 1:17 | sisterkath | 77604 | ||
trueheart, Yes it is very loving to bring others to Jesus Christ, but as Jesus Christ made known, to all that would listen, his Father, Jehovah is the one who sent him. Jesus was send to make his Fathers name known, Jehovah. At John. 12:44-50 But Jesus loudly declared. The one who believes in Me does not (only) believe in and trust in and rely on Me, but (in believeing in Me he believes) in Him Who sent Me. And whoever sees Me sees Him Who sent Me. I have come as a Light into the world, so that whoever believes in Me (whoever cleaves to and trusts in and relies on Me0 may not continue to live in darkness. If anyone hears My teachings and fails to observe then (does not keep them, but disregards them), it is not I who judges him. For I have not come to judge and to condemn and to pass sentence and to inflict penalty on the world, but to save the world. Anyone who rejects Me and persistently sets Me at naught, refusing to accept My teachings, has his judge (however); for the (very) message that I have spoken will itself judge and convict him at the last day. This is because I have never spoken on My own authority or of My own accord or as self-appointed, but the Gather Who sent Me has Himself given Me orders (concerning) what to say and what to tell. And I know that His commandment is (means) eternal life. So whatever I speak, I am saying (exactly) what My Father has told Me to say and in accordance with His instructions. Amplified However, Jesus cried out and said, "He that puts faith in me puts faith not in me (only), but in him (also) that sent me; and he that beholds me beholds (also) him that sent me. I have come as a light into the world, in order that everyone putting faith in me may not remain in the darkness. But if anyone hears my sayings and does not keep them, I do not judge him; for I came, not to judge the world, but to save the world. He that disregards me and does not receive my sayings has one to judge him. The word that I have spoken is what will judge him in the last day; because I have not spoken out of my own impulse, but the Father himself who sent me has given me a commandment as to what to tell and what to speak. Also, I know that his commandment means everlasting life. Therefore, the things I speak, just as the Father has told me (them), so I speak (them). New World Translation sisterkath |
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9 | John 1:18 "only begotten God". | John 1:18 | sisterkath | 76954 | ||
Tim, Yes, we are in agreement that there is only one God, Jehovah. At Isaiah 43:10, The King James Version, New American Standard and New International; all have capital letters for LORD, but Amplified has little letters for Lord. Why is this, if I may ask? I have reseach ahead of me. And I will get back to you. Thank-you for your reply. sisterkath |
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10 | John 1:18 "only begotten God". | John 1:18 | sisterkath | 76934 | ||
Hi Tim, I tryed to show you that Jesus was not Almighty Jehovah. Teach me, so I can learn. How do you see Isaiah 43:10? You tell me and I will listen. |
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11 | John 1:18 "only begotten God". | John 1:18 | sisterkath | 76908 | ||
Hi Tim, I don't feel that Jehovah Witnesses are a cult. Matter of fact, I feel they are the only true religion on earth today. You see my friend, you believe, Jesus is Jehovah and I have shown you scriptures from "The Bible" and you totally disregrad them. Jesus called God "the only true God" John 17:3. Never did he refer to God as a deity of plural persons. No where in the Bible do you see anyone elso called, "Almighty", except Jehovah. Neither Jesus not the holy spirit is ever called that, for Jehovah alone is supereme. At Genesis 17:1 he declares: "I am God Almighty." And Exodus 18:11 says, "Jehovah is greater than all the other gods. When God sent Jesus to earth as the ransom, he made Jesus to be what would satisfy justice, not an incarnation, not a god-man, but a perfect man, "lower than the angels." heb 2:9, compare Ps 8:5,6. How could any part of an almighty Godhead, Father, Son, Holy Spitit, ever be lower than angels? The Bible calls Jesus the "only begotten Son" of God. John 1:14, 3:16,18; 1 John 4:9. Trinitarians say that since God is eternal, so the Son of God is eternal. But how can a person be a Son and at the same time be as old as his Father? Jesus never claimed to be God. Everything he said about himself indicates that he did not consider himself equal to God in anyway, not in power, not in knowledge, not in age. In every period of his existence, whether in heaven or on earth, his speech and conduct reflect subordination to God. God is always the Superior, Jesus the lesser one who was created by God. At John 20:17, "Jesus said to Mary Magdalene, "I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God. RS, Catholic Edition, At 2 Cor. 1:3 the apostle Paul comfirms this relationship. "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ." Since Jesus had a God, his Father, he could not at the same time be that God. Paul also stated at 1Cor. 8:6, JB. "For us there is one God, the Father and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ. Mark 10:18, "Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone." So Jesus is saying that no one is as good as God is, not even Jesus himself. I have come down from heaven to do, not my will, but the will of HIM that sent me. John 6:38. What I teach is not mine, but belongs to HIM that sent me. John 7:16. Is not the sender superior to the one sent? When Jesus was baptized, God's voice from heaven said, "This is my Son, the beloved, whom I have approved. Matt. 3:16,17. Was God saying that he was his own son, that he approved himself, that he sent himself? God is superior for he anointed Jesus, giving him authority that he did not previously have. Mat. 20:23. A mother of two disciples asked that her sons sit one at the right and one at the left of Jesus when he came into his Kingdom. Jesus answered, "YOU will indeed drink my cup, but this sitting down at my right hand and at my left is not mine to give, but it belongs to those for whom it has been prepared by my Father." Had Jesus been Almighty God, those positions would haave been his to give. But Jesus could not give them, for they were God's to give, and Jesus was not God. At Hebrews 5:8, we read that Jesus "learned obedience from the things he suffered." God did not have to learn anything. But Jesus did, he didn't know everything God knew. And he had to learn, obedience. God never has to obey anyone. The difference between what God knows and what Christ knows also existed when Jesus was resurrected to heaven to be with God. Note the first words of the last book of the Bible. "The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him." Rev 1:1 RS, Catholic Edition. If Jesus himself were part of a Godhead, would he have to be given a revelation by another part of the Godhead, GOD? Of course he would have known all about it, GOD knew. But Jesus did not know for he was not God. I refer everyone on the board to, http://www.watchtower.org/ |
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12 | Is the first resurrection, the rapture? | Bible general Archive 1 | sisterkath | 76272 | ||
Hi Tim, Did he or did he not say in Is 43:10, that there is no other god besides him? If he did then how can Jesus be another god? Reply: Tim, there are many gods. But there is only One True GOD, Jehovah. Why wouldn't Jesus be a god? Isn't Satan the god of this world? At Isaiah 43:10. YOU are my witnesses, is the utterance of Jehovah, even my servant whom I have chosen, in order that YOU may know and have faith in me, and that YOU may understand that I am the same One. Before me there was no God formed, and after me there continued to be none. Servant, the anointed God, El Or, and after me there came or, will come, to be none. NWT You are saying that Jesus is GOD ALMIGHTY. Maybe you can answer some of my questions. At Isaiah 53:10 it says, Yet it pleased Jehovah to bruise him, he hath put him to grief. Bruise WHO? HIMSELF? John 1:38 refers to the arm of Jehovah, at Is 53:1, here along with Is 40:10, we have the arm of Jehovah as being the messiah and differenitated from his Father. Jesus can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father doing, John 5:19. As the Father GIVES him knowledge and Revelation, Rev 1:1. But Jesus was even then limited in the knowledge given to him, But of that day or hour KNOWETH NO ONE, not even the angels of heaven, neither the son, but the Father only. Matt 24:36, Mark 13:32 If Jesus was one third of God, and the Father was another third of God, how is it possible that Jesus was ignorant of what another part of his Godhead was doing? If Jesus was simply ignorant in his human nature, then how can he, according to you, see John 20:28, be Almighty God in his human nature at the same time? How can he, according to the creeds, be fully God and fully man at the same time and still not know anymore than the angels? Is it perhaps that he was NOT God, but a representative of God who was simply given the power of agency? Does Matt 28:18 and Hebrews 1:3 say that Jesus is, all powerfull? And Jesus came to them and spake unto them, saying, ALL authority hath been given unto me in heaven and on earth. Matt 28:18. Jesus is GIVEN all authory. Someone who is, all powerful, does not need to be given anything, who being the effulgence of his glory, and the very image of his substance, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had made purifications of sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high. If the Scripture is indeed saying that Jesus is, all powerful, it is interesting that he only gets to sit on God's right hand, instead of in his stead. The angels sit at God's right hand, 1 Kings 22:19, 2Chron 18:18, and it is often a position of favor, 1 Kings 2:19, Ps 45:9, for royalty, but not one that is the ultimate power. 1 Corinthians 15:24-28, NIV. Then the end will come, when he hands over the Kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. For he must reigh until he has putt all his enemies under his feet. The lastenemy is death. For he has put everything under his feet. Now when it says that everything has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all. Is Jesus handing over the Kingdom to himself? |
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13 | Is the first resurrection, the rapture? | Bible general Archive 1 | sisterkath | 76200 | ||
Tim, Actual facts, right out of NWT. Jesus is the Son of God, not GOD Jehovah. Jesus himself says he is the Son of GOD. Why should I believe any different? And we know what the Son of God means. In the Old Testament, certain men and angels are called, sons of God. At the center of Jesus identity in the Fouth Gospel is his divine sonship. John 10:36. Which now brings us to a different subject. Did Jesus have a heavenly existence before he became man? Yes, he most certainly did. He is the first-born of all creation, all things were created through him and for him. He is before all things. But Jesus is not his Father Jehovah. This is what I believe and what the Bible tells me. |
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14 | taking out time to show them Christ . | Mark 1:17 | sisterkath | 76187 | ||
Also at John 12:27,28,29; Now my heart is troubled, and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour? No, it was for this very reason I came to this hour. Father, glorify YOUR NAME. Then a voice came from heaven, I HAVE GLORIFIED IT, AND WILL GLORIFY IT AGAIN. 30, Jesus said, This voice was for your benefit, not mine. NIV Who was Jesus talking to? If not his Father, Jehovah? |
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15 | Is the first resurrection, the rapture? | Bible general Archive 1 | sisterkath | 76184 | ||
Hi Tim, It is good to see someone with so much education. I have no former education, but do like to research into the Bible. You asked; "Is there only One God, or are there more than one gods? Reply: Anything that is worshiped can be termed a god, inasmuch as the worshiper attributes to it. A person can even let his belly be a god. Ro 16:18 Php3:18,19. There are many gods that are mentioned in the Bible. Ps 86:8 1Co 8:5,6 it shows that the gods of the nation are valueless gods. Ps 96:5 Among the Hebrew words that are translated God is El, probably meaning Mighty One, Strong One. Ge 14:18. It is used with reference to Jehovah, to other gods, and to men. It is used extensively in the makeup of proper names, such as Elisha, meaning Gjod is Salvation and Michael Who Is Like God. In some places El appears with the definite article ha El literally, the god, with reference to Jehovah, thereby distinguishing him from other gods. Ge 46:3 2Sa 22:31 At Isaiah 9:6 Jesus Christ is prophetically called El Gibbohr, Mighty God, not El Shaddai, God Almighty, which is applied to Jehovah at Genesis 17:1 In the following eight places ha elo him refers to other gods. Ex 18:11 22:20 De 10:17 Jg 10:14 2Ch 2:5 Ps 86:8 136:2 Jer 11:12. |
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16 | Is the first resurrection, the rapture? | Bible general Archive 1 | sisterkath | 75711 | ||
Tim, Sorry it took me so long to return. You are right I misquoted. But, getting back to "a god." 1808 "and the word was a god" The New Testament, in An Improved Version, Upon the Basis of Archbishop Newcome's New Translation: With a Corrected Text, London. 1864 "and a god was the Word" The Emphatic Diaglott (J21, interlinear reading), by Benjamin Wilson, New York and London. 1935 "and the Word was divine" The Bible--An American Translation, by J.M.P. Smith and E.J. Goodspeed, Chicago. 1950 "and the Word was a god" New World Translation of the Christian Greek Scriptures, Brooklyn. 1975 "and a god (or, of a divine kind)was the Word" Das Evangelium nach Johannes, by Siegfried Schulz, Gottingen, Germany. 1978 "and godlike sort was the Logos" Das Evangelium nach Johannes, by Johannes Schneider, Berlin. 1979 "and a god was the Logos" Das Evangelium nach Johannes, by Jurgen Becker, Wurzburg, Germany. These translations use such words as "a god," "divine" or "godlike" because the Greek word Jeoc (theos) is a singular predicate noun occurring before the verb and is not preceded by the definite article. This is an anarthrous the-os'. The God with whom the Word, or Logos, was originally is designated here by the Greek expression o Jeoc, that is the-os preceded by the definite article ho. This is an articular the-os. Careful translators recognize that the articular construction of the noun points to an identity, a personality, whereas a singular anarthrous predicate noun preceding the verb points to a quality about someone. Therefore, John's statement that the Word or Logos was "a god" or "divine" or "godlike" does not mean that he was the God with whom he was. It merely expresses a certain quality about the Word, or Logos, but it does not identify him as one and the same as God himself. |
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17 | God not around sin how satan go to him | Bible general Archive 1 | sisterkath | 75296 | ||
According to the Scripture's, Satan is a lie. (He is the Father of "the lie"). He lied to Eve. If satan encourages others to sin, doesn't that make him a sinful angel? So sinful, that he was kicked out of the heavens! Satan is everything evil you can see and hear, that is going on in this world today. The statement, "Satan is not sin itself, but encourages others to sin," is wrong. Satan is all sin. That's why it is very important that we listen to God, and not fall into the path of satan. |
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18 | Is the first resurrection, the rapture? | Bible general Archive 1 | sisterkath | 75293 | ||
Thank-You Joe. I'll keep them sites, in my files, just incase I need to refer to them. | ||||||
19 | Is the first resurrection, the rapture? | Bible general Archive 1 | sisterkath | 75292 | ||
Steve, Why do I believe that the Word was "a god" and not God? Because, there is only one "Almighty GOD" Jehovah, and one "Son of GOD", Jesus Christ. According to the New English Translation: And the Word was God. John's thrology consistently drives toward the conclusion that Jesus, the incarnate Word, is just as much God as God the Father. This can be seen, for example, in John's use of the verb "worship" (proskunevw, praskunew) with Jesus as object in John 9:38, a word that elsewhere in John (4:21, 23,24) has only God the Father as its object. The construction in John 1:1c does not equate the Word with the person of God; rather it equates the essence of the Word with that of GOD. The Word was "a god". Or "divine," (theos en ho logos). As a divine being Jesus is not only Jehovah's companion but he is also his "master worker" a statement found in Proverbs 8:30. The first two clauses of John 1:1 state Jesus' relation to GOD, but part c states his position. Evidence that John wants to distance the Word with any identification with God is evidenced not only in the omission of the article in John 1:1c, but also the following verse. Jesus was "a god," but not the Almighty Heavenly GOD, Jehovah. |
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20 | Is the first resurrection, the rapture? | Bible general Archive 1 | sisterkath | 75282 | ||
I am not a Baptized Jehovah Witness. Understand, that one is not a Jehovah Witness, until one is baptized into their religion. But I believe in their teachings. | ||||||
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