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1 | Satan.. man or not? | Ezek 28:12 | sandrider | 57143 | ||
Thanks! This is very extensive. It seems that there is more support that Satan is a single being. | ||||||
2 | repost of circumcission and baptism? | Col 2:12 | sandrider | 57135 | ||
I did not mean to support this subject, except as a possible answer. I was merely exploring it. Isn't that what this site is for? To help other study the Bible and not send them into a corner when an idea they want to explore is not true? In any case, you could not know if I had any preconeived notions about this. Also, if my argument were too weak to be considered, why respond to it? This isn't a place for show-downs. |
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3 | repost of circumcission and baptism? | Col 2:12 | sandrider | 57133 | ||
Thanks for your input. I just try to explore every possibility fully before rejecting them. I looked around and every reference to "[cardinal number] sabbaton" I looked at is, in fact, in reference to that day of the week. | ||||||
4 | Satan.. man or not? | Ezek 28:12 | sandrider | 57130 | ||
The Greek for all these nouns in the same in the singular as in the plural. Therefore, in that sense, it may be acceptable to consider them all singular in reference to a single being. But, if the reference was to a single being, why list so many names unless in referall to the evil within those people who hold those positions? Is it not conceivable that this is a reference to a spiritual war combatting the evil within people? Also, Powers - exousia, 4c2a) a ruler, a human magistrate Rulers - kosmokrator, 1) lord of the world, prince of this age darkness - skotos, 2a) of ignorance respecting divine things and human duties, and the accompanying ungodliness and immorality, together with their consequent misery in hell, 2b) persons in whom darkness becomes visible and holds sway I do not see the relevance of the passages from Daniel and the Psalms. I am not denying the existence of angels, which is clearly stated. James 4:7 devil - diabolos, adjective, 1) prone to slander, slanderous, accusing falsely 1a) a calumniator, false accuser, slanderer "Diabolos" is an adjective, meaning what is listed above. The context suggests that it be taken in the noun form, i.e., "... resist the slanderousness/false accusations..." -Strong's |
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5 | Satan.. man or not? | Ezek 28:12 | sandrider | 57128 | ||
There is a Satan within all of us, as there was within the king of Tyre. Hence, there was a force behind his actions (his intristic evil), but not a single malevolent force. By the way, Isaiah 14:12 mentions "Lucifer," a word in the Latin Vulgate from the Hebrew expressions for "morning star." Hence, the passage is only speaking about the king of Babylon. |
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6 | Satan.. man or not? | Ezek 28:12 | sandrider | 57127 | ||
Lucifer means "bringing light." It is used in reference to the king of Babylon (see Isaiah 14:3, 12). Luke 10:18 is a little tougher. First, "Satan" is a Hebrew word meaning "adversary," which is often left untranslated. Hence, Jesus is telling his disciples of the fall of any adversarial force falling away from God (i.e., Heaven). Ezekiel 28:17 is using this as a reference to the king of Tyre (Ezekiel 28:2) in a symbolic sense, that he used to follow God but has corrupted His Word. |
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7 | repost of circumcission and baptism? | Col 2:12 | sandrider | 57120 | ||
However, "sabbaton" is used twice in this passage to refer to "in the end of.." and "to the first of.." This use of the word "sabbaton" twice is repeated in Mark 16:1-2 and Luke 24:1. This makes it more likely that the original authors meant "sabbaton" to mean "Sabbath" twice. | ||||||
8 | Satan.. man or not? | Ezek 28:12 | sandrider | 57118 | ||
I was not implying that the supposed single evil is merely a man. However, this passages references to cherubs and God's mountain, etc. are most likely just figurative speech applied to the king. | ||||||
9 | repost of circumcission and baptism? | Col 2:12 | sandrider | 57111 | ||
The seventh day, or Saturday, Sabbath was commanded in the Old Testament, there should be little controversy about that (Exodus 16:26, 20:8). It was a symbol of waiting for the Messiah, a spiritual rest. However, Jesus taught a new kind of Sabbath. He picked grain (Matthew 12:1) and taught that on the Sabbath one should, save sheep, a symbol of God's flock, from a well (Matthew 12:11). He did this despite the Old Testament law which said that a man is to be killed for violating the Sabbath (Numbers 15:32-6). Finally, Matthew 28:1 reads, "And on the eve of the sabbaths, at the dawn, toward the first of the sabbaths, came Mary the Magdalene, and the other Mary, to see the sepulchre..." (Young's Literal Translation, the KJV and its paraphrases misinterpreted the passage). This passage shows that there are two groups of Sabbaths, those including the Saturday after Jesus's death, and those including the following Sunday. A similar passage is Mark 16:9 (Be sure to use YLT). Hence, Colossians 2:16, "Let no one, then, judge you in eating or in drinking, or in respect of a feast, or of a new moon, or of sabbaths..." Sometimes the Bible doesn't spit things out plain and simple, you have to study it. |
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10 | Satan.. man or not? | Ezek 28:12 | sandrider | 57104 | ||
The page only talks about a singular evil being, not spirits in general. Anyway, this passage in Ezekiel tells only what God was saying to the king of Tyre and does not mention any spirit. | ||||||
11 | how and where do I find these questions? | Gen 2:1 | sandrider | 56375 | ||
To my knowledge, the names of only two angels are mentioned in the Bible, Michael (Dan. 10:13, 21, 12:1; Jude 9; Rev. 12:7) and Gabriel (Dan. 8:16, 9:21; Luke 1:19, 26). Only one demon is mentioned, Beelzeboub (Mat. 10:25, 12:24, 27; Mark 3:22; Luke 11:15, 18, 19), whose existence could be merely a pagan belief, being that only the people believed that he was the Prince of Demons. Any other names (Uzziel, Metatron, there are hundred) are simply folktales passed down by Hebrew cabalists and not mentioned in the Bible. | ||||||
12 | the great commission/evangelism? | Matt 28:19 | sandrider | 56367 | ||
I like the analogy, it serves the purpose well. Do not think that I believe that some people are not called to be front-line evangelists. Perhaps only that there need to be more evangelists closer to home (not to say that we should not support the front-line). | ||||||
13 | TV Show "Crossing Over" - Dead Speaks? | Deut 18:11 | sandrider | 56245 | ||
The falling asleep is mentioned occassionally and implied frequently in the New Testament. The term "fallen asleep" is used to describe death. The most straightforward example is John 11:11-13, "... He said to them, 'Our friend Lazarus has fallen asleep; but I go, so that I may awaken him out of sleep.' The disciples then said to Him, 'Lord, if he has fallen asleep, he will recover.' Now Jesus had spoken of his death, but they thought that He was speaking of literal sleep." Another good passage is 1 Corinthians 12-18. Some others are Ps. 146:4, 1 Cor. 15:6, 1 Thes. 4:14. 1 Corinthians 15:42-44 tell how believers' bodies will be resurrected and live, "... It is sown a perishable body, it is raised an imperishable body; it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body." I've found that http://www.bbie.org/english/ gives sound, unbiased references and support for questions like this. |
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14 | TV Show "Crossing Over" - Dead Speaks? | Deut 18:11 | sandrider | 56222 | ||
In short it is physically impossible for him to communicate with the dead. Psychics like Edward work of a pagan belief which I like to call "popular Christianity." Popular Christianity teaches that when you die, God judges you and either your soul floats up to heaven or down to hell. However, this is not what Jesus taught. Jesus and the epistles told us that when we die, our bodies rot and our minds fall asleep. Then, when Jesus returns, everyone will be resurrected and judged. Those who believed will be filled with the Spirit. Those who did not will be in Hell, eternal torment (which may simply be living in a normal body that cannot die, such as in the novel for youth, _Tuck Everlasting_). Despite all that, in defense of Edward, the "spirits" he may be communicating with could be angels (who watch over us) and he may only misunderstand them to be spirits of those who have "crossed over." The text seems to lean in the other direction, however. Any thoughts? |
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