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1 | Are you asking about a mystical body | Eph 5:25 | reasnerm | 54290 | ||
Sorry Andes, I'm afraid I must agree completely with you on this point and even complement your clarity. I believe that we can say that God has a body similar to a human form, though exponentially greater without creating God in the image of man. Plato had a concept of forms, that I won't go into here, that helped me to think of heaven vs earth, spiritul vs mortal. As for the Ezekiel passage, if you will forgive me not having time to study it right now, I would guess it to be a vision similar to Isaiah's (Chpt. 6) which John references as a vision of Jesus. (Sorry I can't find the reference right off, I look later when I have more time.) | ||||||
2 | Does God have a spiritual body? | Eph 5:25 | reasnerm | 54288 | ||
Then any ideas on what His form is as a spirit,just a shining orb or glittering transendence? Dear Fanny Crosby will be dissappointed if she doesn't see her Father face to face. We could get into discussions on being created in God's image, but those arguements have already seen too much daylight. God bless. | ||||||
3 | rock foundation | Matt 7:24 | reasnerm | 53866 | ||
Emmaus, I would agree with you primarily due to the fact that in my copy of the Bible, much of the text is written in red. I don't ever want to tell Jesus,"sorry, I didn't bother to study what you had to say, I preferred Paul's messages." To he who would dispose of the Old Testament study to study "Rom - Jud", does he also eliminate the many old testament passages that are quoted or alluded to in those few sacred epistles? |
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4 | What commandments to keep? | 1 John 2:4 | reasnerm | 53778 | ||
I do agree with what you are sayng, though the fact that we cannot keep the Law does not excuse us from living a godly life. As you say, it wll look like we are under the Law, because through the Spirit we will naturally keep the law to the best of our ability, otherwise we sin. Certainly, you will not disagree with me as I trumpet Titus 3:8 "This is a faithful saying and these things I want you to affirm constantly, that those who have believed in God should be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable to men." | ||||||
5 | Ten commandments should be obeyed . | 1 John 2:4 | reasnerm | 53777 | ||
To start at the end of your kind response, you imply that since the coming of Jesus, God no longer judges the nations. I'll give only two examples: in 70 AD, God destroyed the city of Jerusalem as punishment for her rejection of Jesus. Josephus speaks of the chariot of God visible circling the city and then departing. In our own lifetime we have seen the iron curtain shattered by the hand of God, most visibly in Romania. There, a gospel preacher refused to be silenced and the churches rallied around him, and then the people joined, and the government fell. God still judges nations. But Father God is unchanging we are taught, so what you hope to find in the New Testament you will find in the Old. Isaiah 58:6-7 reads:" Is this not the fast I have chosen: to loose the bonds of wickedness, to undo the heavy burdens, to let the oppressed go free, and that you break every yoke? Is it not to share your bread with the hungry, and that you bring to your house the poor who are cast out; when you see the naked, that you cover him, and not hide yourself from your own flesh?" When I read the Old testament, I am amazed at His love for the Children of Israel. Many times they went into sin, and He would patiently call and call them to come back to Him. Eventually, when His patience wore thin, He would punish, always justly, but He would punish. I am amazed that you can only find one commandment in the New Testament when Jesus even spoke of two. The passage in 1 John that started this discussion even speaks of "commandments". As for your suggested reading, I have just completed them all in the past couple of months except Hebrews, as I just got to Titus tonight. Found several neat verses there, too. Titus1:15-16:" To the pure all things are pure, but to those who are defiled and unbelieving nothing is pure; but even their mind and conscience are defiled. They profess to know God, but in works they deny Him, being abominable, disobedient and disqualified for every good work." Titus 3:8-9:" This is a faithful saying, and these things I want you to affirm constantly, that those who have believed in God should be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable to men. But, avoid foolish disputes, genealogies, contentions, and strivings about the Law; for they are unprofitable and useless." Hey, isn't God great. God bless you and Maranatha! | ||||||
6 | Ten commandments should be obeyed . | 1 John 2:4 | reasnerm | 53774 | ||
What you call intensify, I called added to. My point was simply that Jesus raised the bar so high that even the rich young ruler could no longer keep the law. It is impossible to keep the Law in order to be saved, but that does not mean that we abandon ourselves to an ungodly lifestyle. I once read a well known Christian leader state that once we have made a profession of faith, we can then for all practical purposes lead a lifestyle that is no different than that of an unsaved person, and we will not lose our salvation. My response to his statement is that such a person would never have truly accepted salvation. We must at least try to be holy, for God is holy. You almost seem as though you think that when Jesus said to love our neighbor, that He lessened the commandment. Again, I say he added to it. Under the law we had only to refrain from murdering the jerk next door, now we have to love him!? Please understand, I am not trying to preach any form of legalism, but as I expect my children to try to do right and do what I expect of them, so I try to do what my heavenly Fatheer expects of me. Sometimes (a lot),I mess up, but Jesus already paid the price for that sin. But the price was great, so I do not just say "oh well, things happen", I repent in sorrow as a child to the Father. | ||||||
7 | a response to your response | 1 John 2:4 | reasnerm | 53694 | ||
You do not seem to know quite what to ask yourself, as you rmain very vague. Certainly these verses can "relate" if you choose them to. They both speak of salvation and subsequent obedience to Jesus' commands. He who believes (Mark 16) is one who knows Him(1 John). He who is not baptized (Mark 16) is not keeping His commandments (1 John). (But not all are reborn equally strong. Obedience to Jesus' commands comes as part of spiritual maturing. Certainly the biblical example is for immediate baptism, but their culture was much more religious than ours and the baptism was much better understood.) | ||||||
8 | What about Acts 2:38? | NT general Archive 1 | reasnerm | 52594 | ||
Thank you for your openness, as I am always concerned that a person is in a right relationship with Jesus. As I was thinking about this question, I was reminded of Paul's statements about those in his day who taught that new believers must be circumcised in order to be saved. It was the same sort of arguement as you are hearing today. Whenever we are told that there is something that we must do in order to earn our salvation, we are being taught in error. Jesus gave us many commandments which we need to keep, but we are to keep them in accordance with our salvation, not as a cause of our salvation. Think about it, of the commandments that Jesus gave us, if any of them were required for salvation, certainly it would have been commandment #1 or #2,: Love the Lord your God with all your heart, all your mind, and all your soul, and love your neighbor as yourself(paraphrase mine). But if we are required to keep commandments in order to be saved, then we are placing ourselves back under the Law, the Law which is unable to save us. Please take some time with a concordance or Bible search engine and read what Paul had to say, and study prayerfully, asking the Holy Spirit to guide you into understanding, and when you come to peace with an understanding, thank God and stand firmly on that belief. Don't take my word or the word of your friend, but study God's word. If you need, I can point you to some verses, but it would be better, for you to find them and come to your on decision. God bless you. | ||||||