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1 | Reconciling Scripture verses. | OT general | parpar | 201079 | ||
Dear WOS. Thank you for your post in which you say, "I don’t think God justifies because we have done the right thing in accepting his offer of salvation, but rather by imputing the obedience and satisfaction of Jesus Christ unto us. And this not by anything we do, because it requires faith which is a gift from God to begin with." I am having difficulty in understanding just what it is you are trying to say, as it is impossible to, "accept His offer of salvation", without exercising God's gift of faith.. Which fact I would have thought was obvious, and is the reason why I made no reference to it. Now regarding my understanding of, "Justification", might I with respect refer you to web site, http://satisfiedingod.blogspot.com/2006/06/meaning-of-justified-in-james-221-24_18.html From which is given below a short extract. Introduction Justification before God is no trivial matter; heaven and hell are at stake. The foundation of Christianity has always rested on the biblical truth that “a man is justified by faith apart from works of Law” (Rom. 2:28). The apostle Paul vehemently preached against the notion that anyone could be justified outside faith in Jesus Christ (Rom. 1:18-3:20, 3:28, Gal. 2:21, 3:11). If Paul proclaimed that a person was declared righteous upon their confession of Jesus Christ, how then are we to interpret James’ pericope which seems to blatantly contradict the very statement that Christianity proclaims? The Problem with the Word “Justified” James states, “Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered up Isaac his son on the alter? You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone” (James 2:21, 24). On the surface, Paul in Romans 3:28 and James in 2:21, 24 seem to create a deep contradiction in their content. However, through research and meditation one can discover that there is reconciliation and harmony between these two passages. First, we need to consider the use of the Greek word “dikaiow.” This word means “to make or declare pure/free/righteous” concerning the moral state of an individual. However, this word can also mean “to vindicate” or to demonstrate the righteous state of an individual.[1] Although the latter is the more prominent usage (especially amongst Pauline writings), the former is also used on a variety of occasions (i.e. Rom. 2:13, Jas. 2: 21, 24).[2] Every blessing. parpar. |
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2 | Reconciling Scripture verses. | OT general | parpar | 201000 | ||
Hi Steve. Sorry for the delay in responding, please accept my apology. All the verses you quote apart from, Deuteronomy 5:9, merely indicate that a son will not be judged for his fathers misdeeds, whereas, Deuteronomy 5:9, appears to contradict this, and that is all that I am saying. My question was, "Can someone please give me advice on how to reconcile the apparent contradiction of these two verses." If my understanding of, Deuteronomy 5:9, is incorrect, then please let me have what you consider to be the correct interpretation of this verse. Thank you. parpar. |
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3 | when the sons of God lived with ... | Gen 6:4 | parpar | 200660 | ||
Dear John. Here is the continuation of my previous post. Yo said. "By the way, I have to wonder,... if you believe that your explanation calls for, "pure speculation" and, "is in no way to be taken as foundational Christian doctrine". Why would you then adopt it?" The questions asked are of academic interest only, as were the answers I gave. What I had to say will no way affect the salvation of anyone, or their standing before the Lord. No where in Scripture does the Lord say, "Unless you understand what is meant by, the sons of God, or know what the Nephilim are, can you be saved". And that alone is why I described as, "pure speculation", what I said in answer to the two questions that were asked. My understanding of what is meant by, "foundational Christian doctrine", is to be found in such verses as, John 3:16. Rom 10:9. Eph 2:8-9. Gal 2:20, and so on. I hope the above has helped to clarify the situation for you. Every blessing. parpar. |
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4 | when the sons of God lived with ... | Gen 6:4 | parpar | 200659 | ||
Dear John. Thank you for your welcome, and for drawing my attention to post # 26083, on which I would like to comment as follows. Both "Christianheart", who asked the question, and, "Jesusman" who answered it are both wrong in concluding that there was only one man called, "Lamech". It does not require an in depth examination of Scripture, a mere casual glance at the respective verses in their context, shows that Lamech's father was, "Methuselah", and that Lamech was the father of Noah, see below. Gen 5:25 Methuselah lived one hundred and eighty-seven years, and begot Lamech. Gen 5:26 After he begot Lamech, Methuselah lived seven hundred and eighty-two years, and had sons and daughters. Gen 5:27 So all the days of Methuselah were nine hundred and sixty-nine years; and he died. Gen 5:28 Lamech lived one hundred and eighty-two years, and had a son. Gen 5:29 And he called his name Noah, saying, "This one will comfort us concerning our work and the toil of our hands, because of the ground which the LORD has cursed." Whereas at. Gen 4:17 And Cain knew his wife, and she conceived and bore Enoch. And he built a city, and called the name of the city after the name of his son--Enoch. Gen 4:18 To Enoch was born Irad; and Irad begot Mehujael, and Mehujael begot Methushael, and Methushael begot Lamech. Gen 4:19 Then Lamech took for himself two wives: the name of one was Adah, and the name of the second was Zillah. Gen 4:20 And Adah bore Jabal. He was the father of those who dwell in tents and have livestock. Gen 4:21 His brother's name was Jubal. He was the father of all those who play the harp and flute. Gen 4:22 And as for Zillah, she also bore Tubal-Cain, an instructor of every craftsman in bronze and iron. And the sister of Tubal-Cain was Naamah. We are told that Lamech's father was, "Methushael", and that Lamach was not the father of Noah, therefore there must be at least two different men called Lamech, you will also note that at verse 17 above, Cain was the father of Enoch, who was the third from Adam, if you count Adam as the first, whereas at. Gen 5:19 After he begot Enoch, Jared lived eight hundred years, and had sons and daughters. It was Jared who was the father of Enoch the seventh from Adam not the third, and therefore clearly not the same person. Jesusman who said, or could one say, "speculated", "it is reasonable to assume that both references are about the same person. "clearly did not do his, "homework", and therefore one is inclined to treat whatever else he had to say with some degree of suspicion. To be continued. parpar. |
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5 | the name of G-d? | Judg 11:39 | parpar | 200606 | ||
Dear Azure. Thank you for drawing my attention to my mistake, as you can see, I have taken your advice, and re-directed my post to, "halroy", who, by the way is of the male gender. May the Lord bless you abundantly, and keep you safe. parpar. |
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6 | the name of G-d? | Judg 11:39 | parpar | 200591 | ||
Hi militaryguy. I refer to your post, in which you said, "So...if I understand correctly...when I spell God with an 'o'...I am profaning His name? I guess when I actually say it, I am...what? blaspheming? Actually, the way I always understood it, the tetragrammaton of the Jewish scriptures was God's name, which the Jews were very careful with, to the point that we don't really know how the name was pronounced...thus we have Jehovah and Yahweh." And also you said, "So...studybibleforum experts, what name are we to use for God, and are there any we should forbear using?" Although not strictly speaking an answer to your questions, it occurred to me that what follows might just be of interest to you, Jehovah is a nonexistent word, made up of the consonants of one word, and the vowel signs of another word. It is arrived at as follows. At Ex Ch 3 v 14 The Lord our God revealed His most Holy name to Moses, it is the name that is translated in English as "LORD" or "I AM". This name was considered by the Jews to be so Holy that whenever scripture was read aloud in public, it must not be pronounced, but another word was to be used in its place, this word was another title for God namely Adonai meaning Lord. Vowel signs were placed over the Hebrew letters to help pronunciation. what happened was that the vowel signs for YHWH were replaced with the vowel signs for Adonai indicating to the reader that Adonai was to be pronounced in place of YHWH. in medieval times an attempt was made to pronounce the Divine name using the consonants of one word, and the vowel signs of another word, thereby producing a nonexistent meaningless word. The name by which God revealed Himself to Moses at Ex 3:14, means "I have been what I have been, I AM that (or what) I AM, I will be what I will be". This name was also understood by the Jews to mean "The perpetually self reveling all existent one". As far as I am aware Christians are not required to attempt to pronounce the Divine name as revealed to Moses, but to address God as, "Our Father". Further more, Jesus said, Jhn 14:13 "And whatever you ask in My name, that I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. Jhn 14:14 "If you ask[fn3] anything in My name, I will do it. Footnote: 14:14 NU-Text adds Me. Every blessing. parpar. |
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7 | Reconciling Scripture verses. | OT general | parpar | 200564 | ||
Hi Steve. "of those who hate Me", refers to fathers, where as, "but executes My ordinances, and walks in My statutes", refers to sons,, In other words, the two extracts you quote, are not dealing with the same persons, so what is the point you are trying to make? parpar. |
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8 | Okay to question faith and the Bible? | 2 Tim 3:16 | parpar | 200556 | ||
Dear Doc. Thank you very much for your two posts to me on this subject, and also your other two posts to which you drew my attention, I have read all four, and find them most helpful, and informative, in fact I have printed them out for future reference, and to show to others as, and when the occasion arises. Every blessing. parpar. |
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9 | Reconciling Scripture verses. | OT general | parpar | 200555 | ||
Dear Hopalong. Thank you for your post. My understanding is that, "All have sinned", and therefore, All are, "dead in their sins", just as Peter was in the verse you quote, you need only go forward six verses to verse 23, where Jesus, who only a very short time before had called him, "Blessed", now calls him Satan. Peter was not at this time converted, as is made clear by Jesus at Luk 22:31 ¶ And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired [to have] you, that he may sift [you] as wheat: Luk 22:32 But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren. But Jesus also makes it clear at, Mat 16:18 "And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it. There is no doubt in my mind, that our Lord Jesus Christ is indeed the foundation on which His Church is built, i.e. 1 st Cor Ch 3 v 11, however, I do not think that He was referring to Himself when speaking as recorded at Matthew Ch 16 v 18, but to what had just happened to Peter. I believe He was saying that His Church would consist of individuals, each of whom would have exactly what Peter had just had, i.e. direct Divine intervention into there lives, enabling them to accept Jesus as Savior, see also. Jhn 6:44 "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day. Jhn 6:65 And He said, "Therefore I have said to you that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted to him by My Father." Mat 19:25 When His disciples heard it, they were greatly astonished, saying, "Who then can be saved?" Mat 19:26 But Jesus looked at them and said to them, "With men this is impossible, but with God all things are possible." God bless you. parpar. |
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10 | Reconciling Scripture verses. | OT general | parpar | 200554 | ||
Hi Doc. My understanding is that a sinner is ,"justified", in the sense that he has done the right thing in accepting, "God's offer of salvation", and that is all I am saying. Now let me say something about the, "ungodly". All have sinned, and therefore all are ungodly.. I see three types of ungodly persons. 1. Those who say, "There is no God", and are of course fools as, Psalm 14, and Psalm 53, says. 2. Those who say, "There is God, but I hate Him", as Deu 5:9 says. 3. Those ungodly ones who are enabled by God to accept the salvation He offers. If you feel that my interpretation of, "ungodly", is incorrect, then please let me have your understanding of this term. Thank you. parpar. |
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11 | Reconciling Scripture verses. | OT general | parpar | 200531 | ||
Dear Doc. Thank you for your post. The greatest sin of which it is possible to be, "guilty", is that of refusing God's offer of salvation, however, when the, "ungodly", accept God's offer, He then, "justifies", them. Every blessing. parpar. |
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12 | Reconciling Scripture verses. | OT general | parpar | 200496 | ||
Hi Doc. Thank you for your post. The word of God cannot disagree with itself, it must be my understanding that is at fault, and that is why I am asking for help. At Deu 5:9, God seems to be saying that He will punish the children for the iniquity of the fathers, whereas at, Eze 18:17, God seems to be saying that He will not punish the children for the iniquity of the fathers. I hope that this helps you to resolve my problem. Thank you. parpar. |
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13 | Okay to question faith and the Bible? | 2 Tim 3:16 | parpar | 200445 | ||
Hi Doc Thank you for your clarification, which I find most helpful, however, I have a problem with, "1. Election of some sinful men to salvation in Christ (reprobation of the rest of sinful mankind in order to make known the riches of God's gracious mercy to the elect)" as it gives me the impression that God is arbitrary, and therefore despotic in His selection of just who is to be saved, yet we are told in the verses below more that once, that He takes no pleasure in the death of a sinner. Eze 18:23 "Do I have any pleasure at all that the wicked should die?" says the Lord GOD, "and not that he should turn from his ways and live? Eze 18:27 "Again, when a wicked man turns away from the wickedness which he committed, and does what is lawful and right, he preserves himself alive. Eze 18:28 "Because he considers and turns away from all the transgressions which he committed, he shall surely live; he shall not die. Eze 18:32 "For I have no pleasure in the death of one who dies," says the Lord GOD. "Therefore turn and live!" Eze 33:11 "Say to them: 'As I live,' says the Lord GOD, 'I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live. Turn, turn from your evil ways! For why should you die, O house of Israel?' Your advice on how to reconcile this apparent contradiction will be greatly appreciated. Thank you. parpar. |
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14 | Tramsfiguration Jesus have return 2 Heav | Bible general Archive 4 | parpar | 200361 | ||
Hi John. Thank you for your post, in which you said, "(John 6:62) is, I believe, in reference to His actual ascension" Possibly, but I am more inclined to associate it with our Lord's disappointment as shown at. Mat 17:17 Then Jesus answered and said, "O faithless and perverse generation, how long shall I be with you? How long shall I bear with you? Bring him here to Me." Mar 8:12 But He sighed deeply in His spirit, and said, "Why does this generation seek a sign? Assuredly, I say to you, no sign shall be given to this generation." Every blessing. parpar. |
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15 | Tramsfiguration Jesus have return 2 Heav | Bible general Archive 4 | parpar | 200335 | ||
Is this verse of any help? John 6:62 "What then if you see the Son of Man ascending to where He was before? Every blessing. parpar. |
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16 | how would you explain this JW pet Q | John 10:30 | parpar | 200331 | ||
Hi Lionheart. Regarding, John 10:30. JW's will tell you that all this means is that both the Son, and the Father are in agreement, the following three verses might be more helpful. John 2:19 Jesus answered them, "Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up." John 2:20 The Jews then said, "It took forty-six years to build this temple, and will You raise it up in three days?" John 2:21 But He was speaking of the temple of His body. As only God can raise Himself back from the dead. Every blessing. parpar. |
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17 | Okay to question faith and the Bible? | 2 Tim 3:16 | parpar | 200330 | ||
Hi WOS. Can you tell me why the last word in verse 30, of Rom 8 is in the past tense? Thank you. parpar. |
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18 | Okay to question faith and the Bible? | 2 Tim 3:16 | parpar | 200309 | ||
Hi again Azure. You ask. "how would you consider or understand "slave" as described in Rom 6:16-18? You don't have to answer me." I have no problem in comprehending, and wholeheartedly agreeing with what is said in the verses to which you refer. What follows is what someone else has said, which you might find helpful. What was the position of a slave in Paul’s day? Well, we must admit, a slave had no position. He had nothing. He had no rights whatsoever. He had no possessions that were his. His very life wasn’t his. He belonged, we can say, body and soul to his master. His master could do anything to him, and that is the status of a slave. You also say. "My further input is just redundancy (Prov 17:28). I believe you should know where I stand from my posts." Your modesty is most refreshing. I have found it this verse most helpful when talking about verse 1 of Psalm's 14, and 53. Shalom parpar. |
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19 | I don't entirely understand this verse. | John 12:25 | parpar | 200292 | ||
Hi John. Thank you for your post. Might I add the following verses of Scripture in support of what you have said. Rom 8:18 For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worth comparing with the glory that is to be revealed to us. Rom 8:35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or danger, or sword? Rom 8:36 As it is written, “For your sake we are being killed all the day long; we are regarded as sheep to be slaughtered.” Rom 8:37 No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. Rom 8:38 For I am sure that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present nor things to come, nor powers, Rom 8:39 nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord. You will note that in verse 38, Paul says, "neither death nor life", in other words, nothing in your life before your psychical death, nor anything in the life you will have after your psychical death, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord. Every blessing. parpar. |
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20 | Okay to question faith and the Bible? | 2 Tim 3:16 | parpar | 200291 | ||
Dear Azure, Thank you for your post, the contents of which are much appreciated, your referrence to, "Rom 9:11-18, and Rom 11:33-35", causes me to think of a not unrelated subject which came to my attention, details of this subject are given below. I would value having your comments thereon. Thank you. parpar. Reconciling free will with predestination. Have a look at the three verses bellow, and tell me do you think that Enoch, Noah, and Job were demonstrating free will, or not? Gen 5:24 And Enoch walked with God; and he was not, for God took him Gen 6:9 This is the genealogy of Noah. Noah was a just man, perfect in his generations. Noah walked with God. Job 1:8 Then the LORD said to Satan, "Have you considered My servant Job, that there is none like him on the earth, a blameless and upright man, one who fears God and shuns evil?" And what about the following seven verses. Why do you think that the word, "choose", is used if man is incapable of making a choice which is acceptable to the Lord, if as some say, man does not have a free will? Deu 30:19 I call heaven and earth as witnesses today against you, [that] I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing; therefore choose life, that both you and your descendants may live; Jos 24:15 And if it seems evil to you to serve the LORD, choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the gods which your fathers served that [were] on the other side of the River, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land you dwell. But as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD." Pro 1:29 Because they hated knowledge And did not choose the fear of the LORD, Pro 3:31 Do not envy the oppressor, And choose none of his ways; Pro 12:26 The righteous should choose his friends carefully, For the way of the wicked leads them astray. Isa 7:15 Curds and honey He shall eat, that He may know to refuse the evil and choose the good. Isa 56:4 For thus says the LORD: "To the eunuchs who keep My Sabbaths, And choose what pleases Me, And hold fast My covenant, Oh, and by the way, why does our Lord Jesus say. Mat 11:28 "Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Jhn 3:36 "He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him." Jhn 3:14 "And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, Jhn 3:15 "that whoever believes in Him should not perish but[fn2] have eternal life. 3:15 NU-Text omits not perish but. If as some say, man does not have a free will? Free will, yes, but now the other side of the coin. Our Lord Jesus also said. Jhn 6:44 "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; Jhn 6:65 And He said, "Therefore I have said to you that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted to him by My Father." Mat 16:16 Simon Peter answered and said, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God." Mat 16:17 Jesus answered and said to him, "Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven. Mat 19:25 When His disciples heard it, they were greatly astonished, saying, "Who then can be saved?" Mat 19:26 But Jesus looked at them and said to them, "With men this is impossible, but with God all things are possible." Jhn 3:27 John answered and said, "A man can receive nothing unless it has been given to him from heaven. Allow me to suggest a possible solution to the problem of reconciling, "Free will, with Predestination". I believe Scripture shows, as I have attempted to indicate in my post above, that man not only has a free will, but is also able to exercise it in a correct way from a divine point of view, and that the Lord our God knows that such persons would, if exposed to the Gospel respond positively. For his reason therefore, He predestines them to hear the good news, and thereby get saved. |
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