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1 | Which part of Acts should we emulate? | NT general Archive 1 | mitchm0521 | 168130 | ||
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2 | Where in Acts does it say that? | Acts 1:1 | mitchm0521 | 167995 | ||
Well first off, If you don't believe the amplified bible, I'll stick with the KJV. Secondly, you said the word my would strongly suggest that it is not the Holy Spirit, so let me ask you about Phil 4:19 says 'My God shall supply all your need according to his riches in Glory.' Since this passages uses the pronoun 'my' should we also say that the God refered to here then is not the God of Heaven? Is it some other God? Mitch |
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3 | Gift of speaking in tongues for all? | Bible general Archive 3 | mitchm0521 | 167994 | ||
You said if a word or phrase is used seldom, it would certainly be one indication that it was not as important as other concepts. There is four places in the Word where God uses Alpha and Omega to describe himself. So is that not important? My point here is, I don't care if something is used only one. If God wrote it, its just as important as if he had wrote it a thousand times. To say anything is less important than another thing in the Word, is absurd. Every single letter of the Word of God is important, its a law brother, a law that we should all be living by. God Bless, Mitch |
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4 | unknow tongue and then proceed to interp | 1 Cor 12:10 | mitchm0521 | 167993 | ||
Because God has designed that it can go this way. 1 Cor 14:13 says who speaks in an unknown tongue, let him pray that he may interpret. God Bless, Mitch |
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5 | Where in Acts does it say that? | Acts 1:1 | mitchm0521 | 167973 | ||
Could the noise as of a rushing mighty wind gather the crowd? I understand the tongues could have gathered the crowd, but if it was the tongues that were used in order to teach them, did Peter still speak in all those different tongues at once in order to preach? Or was he preaching in whatever language was natural to him? | ||||||
6 | Gift of speaking in tongues for all? | Bible general Archive 3 | mitchm0521 | 167971 | ||
If God said something once, its important. I'm not sure what counting the number of times something is said tells us. It certainly doesn't mean praying in tongues is unimportant. Because if thats someones theory, then repentance isn't important, that word is used less than tongues. God Bless, Mitch |
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7 | Where in Acts does it say that? | Acts 1:1 | mitchm0521 | 167969 | ||
The Amplified says for verse 14 For if I pray in an [unknown] tongue, my spirit [by the Holy Spirit within me ] prays, but my mind is unproductive [it bears no fruit and helps nobody] So here, it is saying, the Holy Spirit, is what he is praying with the Holy Spirit. God Bless, Mitch |
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8 | Where in Acts does it say that? | Acts 1:1 | mitchm0521 | 167965 | ||
What does 1 Cor 14 mean when Paul says I will pray with the spirit, and he says that when he prays in an unknown tongue his spirit prays? And in Acts, how were they speaking in another tongue in order to share the Gospel, It does not say that when Peter preached he was speaking in another tongue, if they spoke in tongues in order to share the Gospel, how did so many understand Peter, and come to repentence? Did he speak in all those differnt languages at once. Here is something you can study out for yourself, I have leanred through certain history texts, that at that time, every Jew spoke at least two languages, Aramaic, and the language of their country, such as Egypt, Asia, etc. So they didn't need the tongues, in order to preach. God Bless, Mitch |
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9 | Where in Acts does it say that? | Acts 1:1 | mitchm0521 | 167964 | ||
Thanks for the discussion! Let me address what you said 1) In 1 Corinthians 14:19 Paul says 'Yet in the church...' How does that not show that he does this in the church, as well as outside the church? He is saying He speaks with tongues, then says 'Yet in the church' so he has to be saying something to the effect ' I speak with tongues more than any of you, yet when I get into a church service, I would rather.... ' 2)What do you say that Jude 20 is talking about when it says Praying in the Holy Ghost, my reason for saying praying in the Holy Ghost is praying in other tongues, because Paul says in 1 Cor 14:15 that he will pray with the spirit, which it is the spirit, which the spirit is the holy ghost... so he is saying, I will pray with the Holy Ghost. So Jude is saying to pray in the holy ghost... which must mean tongues, since Paul said praying in the spirit is tongues. 3)You say no interpreter was necessary because each one heard them speaking in his own language. Do you think that the 120 were all saying the exact same thing? I don't see why they would all be speaking in tongues the exact same thing, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. However, no matter if they were or weren't, if one of them is speaking in another tongue, and its the tongue that a man from Egypt understands, does that mean the Asian understands it as well? Or would he still need an interpretation to know what that feller was saying? I hope I made sense in that point, what I'm saying, is if you were to speak in tongues, and it happed to be Spanish, the mexican man next to me wont need an interpreter, because it was his language, however I'm from the US and would not understand it at all, so I would still need an interpreter to know what you were saying. So there is no way, everyone, understood what all 120 were saying. God Bless, Mitch |
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10 | Where in Acts does it say that? | Acts 1:1 | mitchm0521 | 167958 | ||
Now, Lets deal with prayer tongues. Paul says in 1 Cor 14:18 that 'I thank my God I speak with tongues more than ye all' And in verse 19 he says 'Yet in the church...' So Paul shows here, that he speaks in tongues outside of the church service. Which would have to mean that he has a manifestation in ihs life of speaking in tongues that is done outside the church service. And in Chapter 12, he was dealing with a version that was done in the church service. Also, lets look at one more place. In Jude verse 20 the Word says "But ye, beloved, bulding up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost" Now, if we are commanded to pray in the Holy Ghost, which that just commanded us to do so, then how would God be just to command us to do something, that we could not do? And if we say that not everyone can pray in the Holy Ghost, then we are saying God is unjust to require us to do something, he hasn't given us the ability to do. It would be no differnt than me telling my son if he doesn't literally fly into the kitchen, he can't have dinner. That would be very unjust of me. Also, sorry, I have one more thing. In the Book of Acts and chapter 2, we see the 120 filled with the Holy Ghost, and the 120 speaking in other tongues, and we see them on the street and other people are amazed. Now, Paul said that if there is no interpreter, then don't speak in tongues in the church service. So if what they are doing in Acts, is the same as the Gift of Tongues that Paul writes of in Corinthians 12, then on the day of Pentecost, God himself messed up, and had these men doing something, that he didn't want to happen. Just more food for thought. I hope this has helped brother. If I missed any points, please let me know. God Bless, Mitch |
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11 | Where in Acts does it say that? | Acts 1:1 | mitchm0521 | 167957 | ||
The tongues of fire, as with the sound as a mighty rushing wind, signified the moment God poured out his Spirit upon all flesh. If you read in the book of Ezekiel chapter 1 verse 27 you see Ezekiel describing God as a fire from the loins up, and a fire from the loins down. You also know the story of the burning bush, God is equated with light, with bright burning all consuming fire. The day of Pentecost in the book of Acts, is the moment his Spirit was poured out. Obviously, when that happened, it changed alot of things in the Earth as we know it and that , just like the sound of as a rushing might wind, were evidenced of what was occuring. The sound brought many people to see what happned, and many were born again that day after Peter preaches, so perhaps it was God, drawing in the first of the wonderful harvest. The fire of tongues, doesn't have to happen when someone recieves the Holy Ghost, it says in Acts 2:3-4 that the tongues like as of fire sat upon each of them. And it goes on to say in verse 4 and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost and began to speak with other tongues as the Spirit gave them utterance. It says nowhere that the tongues is what filled them, it just says the tongues appeared and that they were filled. Paul was converted on the road to damascus when he saw a vision of the Lord Jesus and heard the Lord speak to him, at that moment, Paul became a believer in Jesus Christ, however, you don't have to have that same exact experience in order to believe. The tongues, is not what is the necessity, the fact that they were then filled, is a necessity. I believe the fire simply was God himself pouring himself into the entire atmospheric envelope, and he showed up in all his Glory! AS for the difference between the two types of speaking in tongues, let me try to describe it as best I can for you. Starting in Acts 2:4 and going througout this particular book we see that the Holy Ghost is given, after salvation, and that those who recieve it spoke in other tongues. Now, also through the rest of the New Testement, tongues is dealt with. Mainly the gift of tongues, and not tongues for your own personal life. Let me start in 1 Corinthians. In 1 Corinthians and chapter 12, Paul starts off by saying concering spiritual gifts, he doesn't want us to be ignorant. He says in verse 4 that there is diversities of gifts but the same Spirit. He says in verse 5 there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord. And in verse 6 he says there are diversities of operation, but it is the same God which worketh all in all. And in verse 7 he says the manifestation of the Spirit, is given to every man to profit withal. In verses 8 through 10 Paul lists these gifts, which include and isn't excluded to, 'divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues' These are the ones we are wanting to deal with. So Paul here, is talking about the gift of tongues, which is used in a church service. In that same chapter and verse 28 Paul says that God has set these gifts in the Church, he's set apolstles, prophets, teachers, miracles, gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues. Paul then goes on in 29 and 30 and points out that not everyone is an apostle, prophet, teacher, worker of miracles, has the gift of healing, speak with tongues, and interpret. We know the answer is no, everyone doesn't do all of those do they? He is talking about ministry, apostle is a ministry calling, teaching is a ministry calling ( Eph 4:11 ) so Paul is speaking of this gift of tongues, at the same time as an apostle or prophet, or any of those other ministries mentioned in Eph. Notice that verse 9 of this chapter starts off saying 'To another faith by the same Spirit....' If we are to say that the tongues are only for a few select people, whoever the Spirit decides, and that there is only one form of speaking in tongues, we'd have to say that there is only one form of Faith, and that not everyone has that, since the Spirit gives the Faith out to whomever he wills. And we know in Hebrews Chapter 11 it says that without Faith it is impossible to please God. So if not everyone was allowed to have Faith, since we are saying the Faith here is the exact same as the Faith that a person needs for conversion, then we have to agree that some people have no faith. And who will ever agree to that? So we have to admit, that in this chapter, there is a ministry related , or church service if you will, related faith, that at times the Spirit will give to whom he wants. Yet everyone has faith. (Read my next post for the rest of this answer) |
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12 | Raising Funds for Christian work | Phil 4:17 | mitchm0521 | 167953 | ||
Praise God, I"m glad you found the answer you needed! God Bless, Mitch |
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13 | Gift of speaking in tongues for all? | Bible general Archive 3 | mitchm0521 | 167952 | ||
I am the 'one' whom you quoted I believe. And I said exactly what God said as well. And no, it does not say in the text in that verse that we pray through or in the Holy Spirit, however it does say in 1 Cor 14:14, If I pray in an unknown tongue my Spirit prayeth. So right there, Paul shows us, that the Spirit prays for us. And in Romans 8:26 he is showing us how the Spirit helps us. We are to pray in other tongues, do you not think we all should obey that simple commandment? God Bless, Mitch |
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14 | Gift of speaking in tongues for all? | Bible general Archive 3 | mitchm0521 | 167951 | ||
I guess I'm not sure if you are agreeing with me, or if you are disagreeing with what I said. Do you believe praying in the Spirit, is praying in tongues as well as I do? As for the blueletterbible.org , I recently found that, and it is one of the best bible websites I've ever seen. Thanks! Mitch |
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15 | Gift of speaking in tongues for all? | Bible general Archive 3 | mitchm0521 | 167942 | ||
Mark let me say you are one of the best to talk to on here. You are one of the only ones who doesn't just try to denounce what I teach as something new and unusual. Thank you for your desire to talk Scripture. BTW did you get my question when I asked if you knew of some good text that would help me with learning the hebrew and greek words better? As to praying in tongues, Paul says starting in 1 Cor 14:14 that if he prays in an unkown tongue his Spirit prays. And he goes on to say that he will pray in the Spirit ( which he just said is praying in other tongues ) and he will pray in his own understanding. He will sing in the Spirit, and he will sin with his own understanding. Thats how I define Scripturally praying in the Spirit, as praying in tongues. God Bless, Mitch |
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16 | Where in Acts does it say that? | Acts 1:1 | mitchm0521 | 167939 | ||
This is not speaking aobut tongues in your own prayer life. This scripture is referring to the Gift of Tongues. Its talking about church service and the giftings of God. ie. Apostle, prophet etc. Tongues in prayer is for everyone, otherwise Paul would be very rude when he said he spoke in tongues more than them all. If he was saying that, and also taught that not everyone would be able to speak in tongues, then that would make Paul a braggart, not to mention highly rude. Tongues have not ceased, I've heard that before, but you can not find scripture to prove it. Bascially Bible Thumper told you guys right. The Word plainly shows that Speaking in other tongues was an initial sign of the Baptism in the Holy Ghost. If this is not the case, give scripture that shows it to be false. God Bless, Mitch |
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17 | Gift of speaking in tongues for all? | Bible general Archive 3 | mitchm0521 | 167935 | ||
If there is no interpreter Paul says that you should keep silent, its necessary to understand that Paul speaks of two different types of Speaking in other Tongues, he talks about the Gift of the Spirit ( 1 Cor 12:10 ) This is a gift, that the Spirit hands out to whom he will during a church service. HOwever in verse 30 Paul shows us that in a church service, not all speak with tongues. However, in 1 Cor 14 Paul says that He thanks God he speaks in tongues more than them all. He goes on to say that 'Yet in the church..... ' So here Paul is showing that there is a differnce between the Gift of Tongues, and speaking in tongues in your own personal prayer time. In Jude it says we are to build ourselves up on our most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost, Paul writes in 1 Cor 14:4 that if he prays in an unknown tongue his Spirit prays. Also in Rom 8:26 Paul says that through praying in the Holy Ghost, or praying in other tongues, however you chose to phrase it, the Spirit helps our infirmites because we know not what we should pray for as we ought. So tongues, in your prayer time, is beneficial to every believer. As I pointed out in Jude, its commanded that we do it. So if there is none to interpret in the Church service, then we are to keep it silent, however as Paul says, in our own prayer time, it is very beneficial. God Bless, Mitch |
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18 | What is to ask and receive the Holy Spir | Luke 11:13 | mitchm0521 | 167927 | ||
Please refer back to my previous post, I believe it was 167850, and you will see plenty of Scripture which shows you that the Baptism in the HOly Ghost, and being filled with the Holy Ghost, with speaking in other tongues, is not a new thing as some call it. Might be new to some people, but its definitly not new to the Church. Its exactly how they started off on the day of Pentecost. God Bless, Mitch |
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19 | What is to ask and receive the Holy Spir | Luke 11:13 | mitchm0521 | 167857 | ||
There is one Truth brother, I'll never agree to disagree. If you wish to no longer talk about it, thats your choice. If you wish to not answer Scripture with scripture, you have the right to do so, and I will respect that. I'll not force you to discuss any part of the Word you wish to not discuss. God Bless, Mitch |
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20 | What is to ask and receive the Holy Spir | Luke 11:13 | mitchm0521 | 167850 | ||
If you think speaking in other tongues, and the baptism in the Holy Ghost is a 20th century thing, then why did Jesus tell them that they couldn't even leave Jerusalem and be a witness for him untill they recieved the baptism with the Holy Ghost? ( Luke 24:49 ) And notice these men are already born again, ( John 20:22 ) The reference I just gave in John shows us that these men recieved the HOly Ghost, at least a measure of it didn't they? Yet Jesus told them to wait in Jerusalem untill they were endued, untill they were immersed with the Holy Ghost. This is one easy place to see there is a secondary immersion into the Holy Ghost. Also you think its a modern teaching, what do you think happened in Acts chapter 19 when Paul shows up at Ephesus, and speaking to born again believers says " Have you recieved the Holy Ghost since you believed" ( Acts 19:2 ) There are two places, which show born again men and or women of God who recieve something after the new birth, which is the infilling of the Holy Ghost. How about Acts chapter 10, Peter is preaching and in verse 44 through the end of the chapter we see that the Holy Ghost fell on all those that heard the Word, and they began to speak in other tongues and magnify God. How about we go back to the day of Pentecost, Peter says in Acts Chapter 2 verse 39, speaking about the promise of this baptism, he says "The promise is unto you and your children, and as many are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. " This particular verse proves that it was not just for them, but is for all believers. Jesus said in Mark 16:17 that those that believe on him, ... shall speak with new tongues. Isiah 28:11 says that with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people. In 1 Cor 14:18 Paul says ' I thank my God I speak with tongues more than you all' And notice who he wrote to here, the church at Corinth, he had to write to them, to show them the proper way to speak in tongues, to do it in order, and to use it in their own prayer time. They were crazy about speaking in tongues, they wanted to do it constantly, everyone in the church wanted to stand up and give a tongue. Yet Paul says that he speaks in tongues more than the whole bunch of them. So no, unless the entire Bible was written in the 20th century, what I am saying is not new material. Just because someone doesn't believe something, doesn't make it new. Might make it new to them, but not new. Now as for what you said about the book of Acts, what does the context of the entire book deal with. Simply it deals with the 'Acts of the Apostles' or rather the Acts of the early church, because the first time we see Paul, he isn't an apostle. ( Acts 13:1 ) Paul was either a prophet , teacher, or both. So what Acts is showing us, is exactly the way the early church operated, and it is how we should operate today. From being immersed with the Holy Ghost, speaking with other tongues, to raising up the lame man as Peter did at the gate called beautiful ( Acts 3:6 ) To preaching the entire Word with boldness. Everything they did, is what we should be set on doing. My conclusion does stand given the entirety of the Bible. So in other words, the book of Acts, is the Acts of the early church, it is how we should be operating today. So since what I've said is scripture, its really hard to call it a 20th centrury invention. Hope this helped, Mitch |
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