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1 | 3 brothers descendants changed | Col 1:16 | lookinforacity | 205962 | ||
Hi John: I'm truly sorry for the over sight, I thought I was being very, clear in what I wrote because I did say Doesn't it make more sense that NOAH had all the DNA, because we are all descendents of him. Or were Noah, and his sons, all the different races, before the flood ? My personal belief, I have posted before, is this. Everything changed when the language was confounded in Babylon. ( Post Flood ). Just what was it that you did not understand, it is a given, that Noah was alive after the flood. People that are not saved know this. So to rectify the matter for you, Gen. 6:13-19 (Eight people) survived the flood I asked you for scripture, to back up the statement made by Val. that you apparently agreed with, That Adam had all the DNA in him for the different Races. There is no scripture for that theory. I did not say my theory was true, I said it made more sense, because of the confusion of the language event in history. The possibility of both events taking place at the same time. According to your own posts you knew exactly where I was going, you said yourself in your 2nd. Note to ME, that you saw my point. Jim: Oh, Ok, I see your point: My advice to you is this. Start back at the beginning, read through what you said, then what my answer to your points were, I said it 1,000 X's So there will not be any misunderstanding, on anything. The Theory that, " Adam who had the DNA for all the features we see in humankind". Cannot be backed up by scripture. There isn't even 1 scripture that you could misconstrue, to get to that point. That is what is called Dogma, a statement made, as a statement of truth, not based in fact. I did not say my theory was fact, I said it was an alternative, that made more sense. My personal belief, I have posted before, is this. Everything changed when the language was confounded in Babylon. ( Post Flood ). To me it makes most sense, because that's when a CHANGE took place that ( WAS DOCUMENTED ). To me that was the time, that God also changed the RACES. But if you want to believe the lie, that cannot be substantiated by scripture, but only on the basis, because it has been put forth by (SCHOLARS) go right ahead. Subject: 3 brothers descendants changed Note: Well, Jim, Most Scholars agree however, though we cant say at what point God put the ability to diversify in man, we can agree that it was in Noah's sons, from Noah, since they are his direct descendent's, and as it is agreed, they spread out and repopulated the earth. As the theory goes however (there's that word again :-) as language was confused and spread across the earth it was adopted by the descendant's of Noah's sons. But like you said that may be just conjecture. The important thing is that God did it. Shalom John GOD BLESS Jim |
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2 | 3 brothers descendants changed | Col 1:16 | lookinforacity | 205950 | ||
Hi skccab: The thread goes back to Val at 5:46 pm She wrote, QUOTE "I however, agree with their research that we all come from one man Adam who had the DNA for all the features we see in humankind". Everything I have said has been against that theory. All I did was to put up a more plausible Theory, on the grounds of everything I have stated. The whole point was to say, there isn't anything to back up your theory, as mine has at least the confusing of the languages , that might go along with that event, which makes more sense to me, rather than following some so called scholars, merely because they have a doctorate. I have not said, or intimated there is another line outside of Adam. I was saying (that) theory doesnt hold water, where mine might hold alot more, on the grounds of the posts. That was the reason for asking John for Scripture to back up the one in Vals post. Reread them carefully Jim |
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3 | 3 brothers descendants changed | Col 1:16 | lookinforacity | 205947 | ||
Hi skccab: Well that was a given, for those that have read the whole thread, between John and me. My statements have all been around, the confusing of the language of the Earth time period. But for those that don't know when that happened. Gen 11:1-9. GOD BLESS Jim |
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4 | 3 brothers descendants changed | Col 1:16 | lookinforacity | 205945 | ||
John: Scripture to back up a Theory would be greatly appreciated, isn't that what is supposed to be the point of the Forum? If a theory cannot be backed up with scripture, then it doesn't carry any more weight than, Darwin' s Theory. Just because someone might be a "Scholar" doesn't mean (THEY), can agree to put forth Theory's, Beliefs as though they were Truth, without something concrete to back them up (Scripture). That is called Dogma. How can we agree, that it was in Noah, and in his sons, if the Theory hasn't (BEEN) proven? All we can agree on, is that (IT IS A Theory). The language was confused, but it wasn't the language that spread across the world, it was the people that had, had their language confused, they did the spreading, thereby populating in areas that were theretofore unpopulated, banding together because of similar qualities, Language. (skin color, and racial features) My Theory. The important thing is that God did it. We don't know HOW, we don't know WHEN, but I tend Not to believe the Scholars. Jim |
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5 | 3 brothers descendants changed | Col 1:16 | lookinforacity | 205943 | ||
John: Going with that reasoning then, (WE) should be able to have different raced children of our own today. RIGHT? It only stands to reason, we all did come from Adam So at what point in human history did, or would it have stopped? The point being, if you make up a Theory, that Adam had all the DNA. Then you would have to make up another Theory, to cover that stoppage Then the question might arise. How does that missing ability in us today make us different than Adam? What I'm getting at is, once you make up a Theory out of absolutely nothing, then you have to keep on doing it, to cover any contingency's that may arise. The Theory I put forth, makes a statement about an event that has been documented, in the History of the world, (as far a Christians are concerned), giving it more validity, than any other, it also stops there. It doesn't lend itself to future events, that may have to be addressed, which would call for an amendment to original Theory. Jim |
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6 | 3 brothers descendants changed | Col 1:16 | lookinforacity | 205939 | ||
Hi John: Point ????? If you are referring to Adam having the DNA, the way the statement was fraised, it sounded to me as though it was saying, He had it (( ONLY )) and his kids were different Races. If everyone reads it that way then forgive me. Just makes more sense at Babylon. GOD BLESS Jim |
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7 | 3 brothers descendants changed | Col 1:16 | lookinforacity | 205930 | ||
Hi Val: Just a short note, on your statement. quote: "I however, agree with their research that we all come from one man Adam who had the DNA for all the features we see in humankind." Everyone born from ADAM died in the Flood. Doesn't it make more sense that NOAH had all the DNA, because we are all descendents of him. Or were Noah, and his sons, all the different races, before the flood ? My personal belief, I have posted before, is this. Everything changed when the language was confounded in Babylon. ( Post Flood ). To me it makes most sense, because that's when a CHANGE took place that ( WAS DOCUMENTED ). Any other Theory, is all 100 percent conjecture. That's it, Have a GOD BLESSED DAY Jim |
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8 | Please HelpUnderstanding Sola Scriptura? | Gen 1:1 | lookinforacity | 205820 | ||
JOHN The Catholic Encyclopedia OK! GOD BLESS Jim |
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9 | Evidenc of Signs in 2008 Valid? | Mark 16:17 | lookinforacity | 205732 | ||
Hi Tamara: I didn't get anywhere. I was trying to tell you , look in every direction you can. That's all. As far as the portion of Mark belonging or not, it's in the book, and it has been for a long time, it will be there for a long time to come. We as believers better get a handle on it. Just posted in the hopes of help. Have a good evening Jim |
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10 | Evidenc of Signs in 2008 Valid? | Mark 16:17 | lookinforacity | 205714 | ||
Continuation 2 of 2 Now, as far as picking up serpents, and drinking poison. I could say, God will watch over us, the same as he did for PAUL, on the way to Rome, (Acts 28:3-6) 3) And when Paul had gathered a bundle of sticks, and laid them on the fire, there came a viper out of the heat, and fastened on his hand. 4) And when the barbarians saw the venomous beast hang on his hand, they said among themselves, No doubt this man is a murderer, whom, though he hath escaped the sea, yet vengeance suffereth not to live. 5) And he shook off the beast into the fire, and felt no harm. 6) Howbeit they looked when he should have swollen, or fallen down dead suddenly: but after they had looked a great while, and saw no harm come to him, they changed their minds, and said that he was a god. But take a look at this. Kind of a different light. Or Luke 10:17-20 17) And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name. 18) And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven. 19) Behold, I give unto you power to tread on (SERPENTS and SCORPIONS), and over (ALL) the (POWER) of the enemy: and (NOTHING SHALL) by any means (HURT YOU). 20) Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven. Thinking of what Luke has just said, could this food be poison to us as Christians? 1 Corinthians 8:3,4 3) But if any man love God, the same is known of him. 4) As concerning therefore the (EATING) of those things that are offered in sacrifice unto idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is none other God but one. OK, I know it says (EATING), but I am thinking on the lines of anything that could be construed a food, or drink, something that we would consume. (NOW) Think of how many different ways, we can consume something How about false teachings that have, and still come into the Church? They could be considered POISIN to the hearer, but not (DEADLY) to the true believer. "Be careful what you hear". James 3:8 But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, (FULL) of (DEADLY POISON). Psalm 140 1) Deliver me, O LORD, from the evil man: preserve me from the violent man; 2) Which imagine mischiefs in their heart; continually are they gathered together for war. 3) They have sharpened their tongues like a (SERPENT); (ADDERS' POISON) is under their lips. Selah. 4) Keep me, O LORD, from the hands of the wicked; preserve me from the violent man; who have purposed to overthrow my goings. We are to keep ourselves, unspotted from the world. James 1:8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways. Matthew 5:37 But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil. 1 Corinthians 10:21 Ye cannot (DRINK) the (CUP) of the Lord, and the (CUP) of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's (TABLE), and of the (TABLE) of devils. "GOD WILL PROTECT YOU" 1 Corinthians 10:31 Whether therefore ye (EAT), or (DRINK), or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God. Tamara, all I am saying is, if we look at Mark 16:17,18, trying to make sense out of it literally, and cant, are we then to just throw our hands in the air, saying "We cant understand it"? Leaving it there. Or are we to SEEK, KNOCK, ASK . I have tried to stretch my brain, into every direction I could think of, trying to get some understanding of the verses in question. I do not believe we are supposed to take at face value, what something might appear to say. That is all I have tried to do. Maybe with these other scriptures I have posted here, they will spark something, allowing you, to look at things from a different perspective. IN Jesus Name Jim |
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11 | No Fruit? | John 15:8 | lookinforacity | 205635 | ||
Hi Humb: Chill Bro, I ain't pushing nothing. Proverbs 10:19 19) In the multitude of words there wanteth not sin: but he that refraineth his lips is wise. Ps. Sorry it took so long to respond to you. Have a GOD BLESSED DAY Jim |
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12 | what does verse 4 chapter 18 mean | Gen 1:1 | lookinforacity | 205633 | ||
Good Evening Tamara: When I answered first, I had to put the Gen1:1 to send it.A scripture was required. But I first misread it to. then realized it was backwards to the way things are always written. Have a God Blessed Night Jim |
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13 | Idiom? | Bible general Archive 4 | lookinforacity | 205625 | ||
TIM THANKS, informative. Y.B.I.CHRIST Jim |
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14 | what does verse 4 chapter 18 mean | Gen 1:1 | lookinforacity | 205624 | ||
Hi Tamara: Are you aware that it is Chap18 Verse4 with no book given? GOD BLESS Jim |
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15 | May we claim rewards for tithing? | Mal 3:10 | lookinforacity | 205621 | ||
I fully understand what, and why you do it the way you do. I personally think of it this way, where 2 or more are gathered in MY name, there will I be in the midst of them. Does that constitute a church? If you and your wife agree as touching anything, Does that include your Tithe? We as believers ARE Priests, over the things of God, they had the responsibility to distribute the Tithe out of the storehouse, to the needs of the people. If you see it not being done the way God wants, then we are to follow GOD not MEN. GOD BLESS Jim |
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16 | Idiom? | Bible general Archive 4 | lookinforacity | 205615 | ||
Hi Tim: From what you said about some interesting theories, is there a calendar, that would tell us just what day, the Passover was that particular Year. Or is it always on a Friday? Just wondering from what you said. GOD BLESS Jim |
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17 | May we claim rewards for tithing? | Mal 3:10 | lookinforacity | 205614 | ||
Hi rdarden1: Sounds like you said, we as Christians should not Tithe, is that right? Not to be smart about it, but how far does your paycheck go each week, with all of the needs you see all around you? Is he working powerfully through you? I do see your point though,I also agree with alot of it. But look at the whole context, if you understand how it all worked, then it doesn't matter if the Church gets the tithe, it doesn't go for the things you object to. The Tithes were to be in the storehouse of the Temple, for the POOR, WIDOWS, ORPHANS. GOD was supplying food to those, that did not have a way to get it themselves. As you see in the context of the issue of tithes, GOD was speaking to the whole Nation. GOD said bring ALL the Tithes. IMHO, The Churches of today are responsible for this work, they are the representatives of GOD, to the City's they are in. God says they are cursed for NOT Tithing. So on who does the Curse fall if we don't tithe. It all depends on HOW FINE a LINE you want to draw. TIM'S Church is a Prime example of what a Church Should be doing , can we imagine if all of the Churches in any given City, (GOT TOGETHER) and did the same thing. Why do Churches always operate separately? MALACHI 3: 8-11 8) Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings. 9) Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, (EVEN THIS WHOLE NATION) 10) (BRING YE ALL THE TITHES INTO THE STOREHOUSE.), that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it. 11) And I will rebuke the devourer for your sakes, and he shall not destroy the fruits of your ground; neither shall your vine cast her fruit before the time in the field, saith the LORD of hosts. GOD BLESS Jim |
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18 | what about doing the work Jesus did ? | 1 Cor 12:28 | lookinforacity | 205547 | ||
HI John: Well it seems we have a, difference of Translation. I use (KJV) you use (NAS) I looked in the (GIB)Greek Interlinear Bible and got ( WEAKNESS). so we can agree, to disagree. GOD BLESS Jim |
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19 | what about doing the work Jesus did ? | 1 Cor 12:28 | lookinforacity | 205539 | ||
Hi John: Just a thought. 13) Ye know how through infirmity of the flesh I preached the gospel unto you at the first. You use this verse to say Paul was sick,it says infirmity, then we go to verse 14, where he makes a statement to them about how they didn't despise him or reject him. If he was sick as you suppose, then why would they,despise him, reject him. Unless it was the Plague.Can you explain verse 14.If not , then you cannot make that kind of an assumption as to his being sick. 14) And my temptation which was in my flesh ye despised not, nor rejected; but received me as an angel of God, even as Christ Jesus. Exodus 4:10 And Moses said unto the LORD, O my LORD, I am not eloquent, neither heretofore, nor since thou hast spoken unto thy servant: but I am slow of speech, and of a slow tongue. I can make an assumption and say I believe Paul had a Stutter, as it is also believed Moses had, I would rather believe they were both slow of speech.It makes more sense when we read about the despising, and rejecting. Perhaps your right, and he was leprous, then all would be explained. But alas it only says Infirmity. Ps. I know you will ask so, where Paul tells Timothy, to drink a little wine,Timothy could have been having stomach trouble from eating the foods in that area, ie. heartburn. There isnt any need for that to be prayed for. Is there? Have a GOD BLESSED DAY Jim |
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20 | No Fruit? | John 15:8 | lookinforacity | 205537 | ||
HI Hank: It's Up GOD BLESS Jim |
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