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1 | What is iniquity in Matthew 7:23? | Matt 7:23 | knucklehead | 124060 | ||
I thought you and/or Tim and/or Ed were the moderators. Now I know. Thank you sir, may I have another. |
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2 | What is iniquity in Matthew 7:23? | Matt 7:23 | knucklehead | 124053 | ||
Greg: I just happened to run across this old thread that apparently lasted for 3 weeks! I didn't read all the comments (nor much of the referenced material), but I found it interesting to observe the dialogue. I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses and have been kicked of this site several times for espousing our understanding of Scripture which you are probably aware rarely, if ever, crosses paths with "Protestant America." While I agree with many on the forum that Christians are not under the law (the covenant was with the Israelites and as a nation they were rejected), I do agree that the principles of the Mosaic Law are applicable to Christians today. Unlike many forum members, I agree with you that endurance to the end and doing the Father's will are conditions for salvation. I also agree that false religion is a favorite tool of the "messenger of light," and the weeds overtook the wheat until the time of the end described in Daniel 12. The question I have has to do with the extent to which Christians are obliged to follow the law. What of animal sacrifices, pelting with stones, etc? Hoping your still available, Knuck (don't ask) |
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3 | Why need of endurance? | John 6:44 | knucklehead | 123986 | ||
Justme: "Faith that faulters had a flaw from the first." Logically then, one can only truly say he's not flawed when he has proven faultless. Proverbs 28:18: "He that is walking faultless will be saved, but he that is made crooked in [his] ways will fall at once." See Revelation 3:21,22 for Jesus admonition. Your last paragraph is well-taken. Take care. |
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4 | Can salvation be lost? | Jude 1:5 | knucklehead | 123981 | ||
Tim: Rev 3:21,22: "To him who overcomes, I will give the right to sit with me on my throne, just as I overcame and sat down with my Father on his throne. He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches." All of Jesus' words to the seven congregations in Revelation chapters 2 and 3 are enlightening. He's not messing around. Concerned. |
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5 | Can salvation be lost? | Jude 1:5 | knucklehead | 123978 | ||
Tim: Please see my last comments to BradK. Thanks. |
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6 | Can salvation be lost? | Jude 1:5 | knucklehead | 123977 | ||
Brad: Forewarned is forearmed! Jesus said: "So you also, when you have done everything you were told to do, should say, 'We are unworthy servants; we have only done our duty.'" However, we are slaves and slaves have to work if they want to continue as such. The works are evidence of faith, but the works can also build faith as we apply God's counsel and see that it really works - we benefit. (Isaiah 48:17,18; 2 Tim 3:16,17) As far as Titus 3:5 or any other verse that speaks of our salvation not through works - I agree whole-heartedly. Jesus died for us while we were yet sinners and we continue as such. However, Paul speaks of the need to maintain faith even after one has gained this knowledge. Hebrews 12:14-17 states: "Make every effort to live in peace with all men and to be holy; without holiness no one will see the Lord. See to it that no one misses the grace of God and that no bitter root grows up to cause trouble and defile many. See that no one is sexually immoral, or is godless like Esau, who for a single meal sold his inheritance rights as the oldest son. Afterward, as you know, when he wanted to inherit this blessing, he was rejected. He could bring about no change of mind, though he sought the blessing with tears." Works cannot save us, but a lack of faith, especially after having come to know the truth concerning God's means of salvation, can disqualify us. We can show ourselves ungrateful saps, and we certainly do if we don't follow the advice at 2 Cor 5:14,15: "For the love the Christ has compels us, because this is what we have judged, that one man died for all; so, then, all had died; and he died for all that those who live might live no longer for themselves, but for him who died for them and was raised up." May we never take for granted the prospect of serving God forever by failing to do our utmost now. Jesus promised: "Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you the crown of life." We must prepare ourselves with this truth. Dan |
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7 | Can salvation be lost? | Jude 1:5 | knucklehead | 123935 | ||
How does one know if he's saved? We don't know if we'll be saved tomorrow, but we can have confidence that the One that judges righteously will not forget our works and the love we have had for his name up until today. We must be careful not to judge others or ourselves - righteous or unrighteous. I submit a Kalos style rendering of 1 Cor 12:10: "So, if you think you are standing firm, don't worry, you won't fall!" |
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8 | Can salvation be lost? | Jude 1:5 | knucklehead | 123930 | ||
Brad: We don't believe in luck. (Isaiah 65:11) But I know we agree that as long as God is for us, no one and nothing can be against us. (Rom 8:31) "For it is time for judgment to begin with the family of God; and if it begins with us, what will the outcome be for those who do not obey the gospel of God? And, if it is hard for the righteous TO BE saved, what will become of the ungodly and the sinner?" So then, those who suffer according to God's will should commit themselves to their faithful Creator and CONTINUE to do good."(1 Peter 4:17) Take care. |
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9 | Can salvation be lost? | Jude 1:5 | knucklehead | 123924 | ||
Brad: Jesus' disciples asked him about the end times and how they could identify them. (Matt 24, Luke 21, Mark 13) Disciples alive at the fulfillment of these words would especially appreciate his counsel - "When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near." (Luke 21:28) This redemption is your deliverance or salvation. The counsel at Matt 24:9,13 applies to any alive to experience the last days, including the tribulation: "Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. But he who stands firm to the end will be saved." (Of course, one's endurance may end at his death, before the end of the tribulation.) Those who trust in Jesus by following his counsel and enduring the onslaught to their faith and spiritual life that Satan and his accomplices will continue to heap upon them to the bitter end will receive a glorious reward. "God is not unjust; he will not forget your work and the love you have shown him as you have helped his people and continue to help them." (Hebrews 6:10) No one that puts their trust in God and Jesus needs to fear. Be faithful in what's least, and we'll be faithful under the greatest tests. (Luke 16:10) That's my position, and I hope it will persuade some. |
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10 | Can salvation be lost? | Jude 1:5 | knucklehead | 123921 | ||
Kalos: Does the Bible contradict itself? Though every man be found a liar, may God be found true! How does one reconcile this and other verses speaking of the need of endurance or to resist Satan's influence in order to be saved? I'll just cite two of dozens: "Don't grumble against each other, brothers, or you will be judged. The Judge is standing at the door!" (James 5:9)"Deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus." (1Cor 5:5) I always tell people: It's not the Bible the contradicts, but interpretation. Why do Paul, John, James, Jude and Peter write so much about the need to fight the fine fight and hold a good conscience if no risk of losing salvation? "AMPLIFIED John 5:24 I assure you, most solemnly I tell you, the person whose ears are open to My words [who listens to My message] and believes and trusts in and clings to and relies on Him Who sent Me has (possesses now) eternal life. And he does not come into judgment [does not incur sentence of judgment, will not come under condemnation], but he has already passed over out of death into life." DOESN'T THIS CLINGING, RELYING, TRUSTING, BELIEVING HAVE TO CONTINUE FOR THE JESUS STATEMENT TO REMAIN TRUE? People need to know the truth. |
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11 | Does "abstain" include more than eating? | Acts 15:29 | knucklehead | 123854 | ||
Angel: Your question is a fair one: "How could God proclaim clean the animals, which are used for our physical nourishment, and condemn blood transfusions which provide life to God's Temple? (1 Corinthians 3:16)" The answer lies in God's view of blood and his right to restrict the use of anything he creates. God had forbidden the eating of certain animals by the Jews, his covenant people, and scientists marvel at the wisdom in these and other laws that preceded medical knowledge that would not come to light for hundreds if not thousands of years! To Peter, God now instructed him to go to people as reviled by Jews as unclean animals - uncircumcised gentiles. Paul clarified the end of the law for Christians as you are well aware. But for reasons incumbent on us, we must comprehend why he has not lifted the prohibition against blood. As Jesus' shed blood cleanses us from sin, thus providing the prospect of life eternal, can you see why God could rightfully, perhaps especially, require Christians to continue 'abstaining' from blood? James made it clear that the Holy Spirit and the older men presiding over the Christian congregation "did not to want to burden you with anything beyond these requirements." So we need not fear the use of any and all medical treatments, only those that would violate clear Bible principles. Luke was a physician and the writer of Acts so no one can say Christians are to shun doctors, only that which violates what is holy. We have to be careful not to rationalize away God's requirements that often serve as a physical as well as a spiritual protection in order to benefit, as the Israelites did, from God's laws. Thanks for your insigtful remarks. |
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12 | "...these necessary things: ..."??? | Rev 17:5 | knucklehead | 123848 | ||
Glenn: I read Hank's comments and didn't see anything difinitive, but I agree that Christians "have access to mighty resources that are denied unbelievers, chief among which are faith in the absolute sovereignty of God and prayer." Like the 3 Hebrew boys in Babylon, we must say: "If we are thrown into the blazing furnace (or faced with death for upholding God's commandments), the God we serve is able to save us from it, and he will rescue us from your hand, O king. But even if he does not, we want you to know, O king, that we will not serve your gods or worship the image of gold you have set up." Actually, I've done some research on surgery without blood and the facts are quite encouraging for those who would "abstain" from blood for Scriptural reasons. Thanks for responding. |
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13 | Give me a little mor help on the hair ? | 1 Cor 11:1 | knucklehead | 123828 | ||
Broreggie: That link was interesting. The third interpretation stands out: "Real Head Covering, Applicable Today - The argument that a real head covering is in view and that such is applicable today is, in some respects, the easiest view to defend exegetically and the hardest to swallow practically. Since it is never safe to abandon one’s conscience regarding the truth of Scripture, I held to this view up until recently. Quite frankly, I did not like it (it is very unpopular today). But I could not, in good conscience, disregard it. Essentially, this view assumes three things: (1) that a real head covering is in view;4 (2) that Paul’s argument has a greater foundation than mere convention; and (3) that the head covering itself is an essential part of his viewpoint." Satan's world pressures Christians constantly to conform to its mold and abandon Bible truth. Are you aware of any churches that uphold this view of Scripture? Someone told me that JW's do. I know their women also are very active in their witnessing to non'JW's, although not permitted to teach in the church. Good to read your comments. |
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14 | Is the quote presumptuous? | John 6:44 | knucklehead | 123745 | ||
This may open another can of worms, but what do you say is the context of Matt 24:3? I side with James on this issue: "Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by what I do. You see that a person is justified by what he does and not by faith alone." (James 2:18,24) |
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15 | Is the quote presumptuous? | John 6:44 | knucklehead | 123744 | ||
Hank: People have gone so far as to justify infant baptism based on this account. (After all his whole household must have included infants, so they conclude.) However, verse 32 does leave much to the imagination. Fortunately, we have the complete Bible to indicate what in addition to mere belief Paul taught as essential to salvation. I'll plead as did Jude in verses 4,5: "For certain men whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are godless men, who change the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord. Though you already know all this, I want to remind you that the Lord delivered his people out of Egypt, but later destroyed those who did not believe." |
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16 | Is the quote presumptuous? | John 6:44 | knucklehead | 123742 | ||
Brad: If I haven't already provided this, compare Paul's statements about his salvation at 2 Tim 4:6-8, and later, at Phil 3:12-16. Also his comments to the young overseer at 1 Tim 6:12 and 2 Tim 2:10-13 are enlightening. I do think this issue is worthy of our consideration, and am enjoying your heartfelt comments. Thanks. |
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17 | Is the quote presumptuous? | John 6:44 | knucklehead | 123735 | ||
So you literally believe that no one that says he's saved will not be saved? (Jude 4,5) I fear you have listened to such godless men that Jude warned against. | ||||||
18 | Is the quote presumptuous? | John 6:44 | knucklehead | 123734 | ||
I agree. And that listening (obeying) must continue until the judgment at Armaggedon or one's death, whichever comes first. Your choosing of life through Jesus' ransom does not end with an admission, typically based on limited knowledge, but your choosing must continue to be manifest in all your subsequent decisions. | ||||||
19 | Is the quote presumptuous? | John 6:44 | knucklehead | 123733 | ||
I believe Jesus' half brother understood the true meaning of Christ's words you quote. He states at Jude 4,5: "For certain men whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are godless men, who change the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord. Though you already know all this, I want to remind you that the Lord delivered (saved) his people out of Egypt, but later destroyed those who did not believe. I ask you to please tell me: Why did he pen these words except to warn against some who would false teachers would mislead people to believe that nothing could change their "saved" status before God? Do not be mislead. Bad associations spoil useful habits. (1 Cor 15:33) |
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20 | Is the quote presumptuous? | John 6:44 | knucklehead | 123731 | ||
God is faithful and will fulfill his end of the bargain. But in the context of all the cited verses, Paul speaks of the obligation of one hoping to be the recipient of such awesome blessings. Notice Romans 8:12-14: "So then, brethren, we are debtors, but not to the flesh, to live of the flesh. For if you live according to the flesh, you will surely die. But if through the power of the Spirit you are putting to death the evil deeds prompted by the body, you shall live forever. For all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God." Notice that little often overlooked word "IF." Yes, if you put away the works of the flesh you will be saved. Thus endurance under test is needed. The power beyond what is nornal will be provided IF we rely on God and act courageously to apply his righteous ways in our daily lives. In Phillipians 3:12,13 Pauls acknowledges: "Not that I have now attained [this ideal], or have already been made perfect, but I press on to lay hold of and make my own, that for which Christ Jesus has laid hold of me and made me His own. I do not consider, brethren, that I have captured and made it my own yet; but one thing I do [it is my one aspiration]: forgetting what lies behind and straining forward to what lies ahead." Notice however what Paul proclaims at 2 Tim 4:7,8: "I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith. [As to what remains] henceforth there is laid up for me the [victor's] crown of righteousness [for being right with God and doing right], which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will award to me and recompense me on that [great] day--and not to me only, but also to all those who have loved and yearned for and welcomed His appearing." Why the difference? Verse 6 indicates he knew his death was imminent, and he knew he had endured to the end! God would not forget his works nor the love he had for his name. Peter speaks encouragingly to Christians in order to build them up in the face of persecution. However, 1 Pet 4:18 states: "For it is time for judgment to begin with the family of God; and if it begins with us, what will the outcome be for those who do not obey the gospel of God? And, "If it is hard for the righteous to be saved, what will become of the ungodly and the sinner?" Chapter 5:8 talks about the possibility of the Devil causing one's spiritual death. Why is it even hard for the righteous to be saved? Why judge the house of God? Persecution will make it difficult to maintain an approved standing before God. And, not all saying "Lord, Lord" are actually doing the Father's will, thus will not be saved. (Matt 7:21) Yes, IF is a big word, but not one we need to dread. God's commandments are not burdensome, but loving. |
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