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1 | Torn veil of Mat 15.38 the literal veil? | Matthew | graftedin | 212692 | ||
John, good points. | ||||||
2 | Torn veil of Mat 15.38 the literal veil? | Matthew | graftedin | 212678 | ||
Cheri, I have been getting that feeling - having read my own print and software commentaries and searched the web for about an hour, I haven't found anything that expressed the views my friend has heard or read. That's not necessarily proof that my views are correct - there are a whole lot of people who believe incorrect doctrines! |
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3 | Torn veil of Mat 15.38 the literal veil? | Matthew | graftedin | 212677 | ||
Cheri, thank you for taking the time to answer my question. I'm very grateful that God has grafted me into Him! I agree that not every single thing in the Bible is corroborated by external sources, and that this doesn't mean it didn't happen. If it's in the Bible, it DID happen. Right now I'm studying Exodus with friends and have learned that the exodus of the Israelites from Egypt is not recorded in Egyptian history. We can think of a number of reasons why it isn't, though. Your examples are interesting - I had not heard those before. By the way, in no way was my friend disbelieving the Bible or trusting in any resources that would destroy the credibility of the Bible. She is as genuine and committed a Christian as I and as dedicated a student of God's word. That doesn't necessarily mean we agree on every single thing, of course. |
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4 | Torn veil of Mat 15.38 the literal veil? | Matthew | graftedin | 212675 | ||
John, thank you for taking the time to answer my question. I don't question that the Bible is the inspired word of God and wholly true and accurate; that's not what I meant by "literal." I have been taught and have read that within the boundaries of sound Bible interpretation, there are some things in the Bible that are not literal. They're TRUE, but not literal. For example, Ps. 50:10, that God owns the cattle on a thousand hills.....that probably doesn't mean literally one thousand, but more likely means uncounted or infinite or something like that. When God told Abraham that his descendants would be numbered like the grains of sand on earth or the stars in the sky, He didn't literally mean an exact number, but uncountable (by anyone but God). When Ezekiel and John saw their visions, were all of those descriptive words literal, or representative of an idea? I can't think of other examples right now, but I think you get my point. As I said in my original question, Mark 15:38 (and parallel passages) sounds to me like there's no way to take it except literally. But I'm just an average person studying the Bible and there might be something I don't yet see about this. I can't discern, for example, whether or not the streets in heaven are literally gold, or if the word is intended to evoke imagery. I've read bunches of commentaries about this verse and a lot on the web, but I've found nothing that addresses my questions A and B. | ||||||
5 | Torn veil of Mat 15.38 the literal veil? | Matthew | graftedin | 212669 | ||
I'm not sure I get your point (I assume you're asking rhetorically). I have read very little in extraBiblical resources, so I really don't know how much is written about Jesus. I've heard a lot of people say that there is more evidence for the accuracy of the Bible and for Jesus' existence and deity than for many nonBiblical things people accept as fact. That's not my question, though. I already believe what the Bible says about Jesus. I just want to know (A) Are there any extraBiblical sources from the first century that record the tearing of the veil in the Temple, and (B) Is there any reason not to believe that Mark 15:38 is literal? Sorry if I wasn't clear about that in my original question. |
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