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1 | Is asking for money false? | 2 John 1:10 | dhuskins | 143749 | ||
re: What would you offer me that my church can't? Let me chime in here. As nobody outside your church can know what your church offers, and nobody outside yourself truly knows what you need, it would be difficult for anyone, other than yourself, to answer that question. Hopefully, your church is offering the same message as all other churches: follow the teachings of christ. (said with tongue in cheek) The conflict between churches is one of interpretation and presentation. If your question is to ask "what is your articles of faith/how stictly do you interpret the words used in scriptures/and how do you see the presentation of the message should be delivered, so I can understand if you are a better match for my needs?", then you have yourself an interesting question that I would like to hear as well. |
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2 | Is asking for money false? | 2 John 1:10 | dhuskins | 143748 | ||
That's quite a response. I think you attached it to the wrong message. My question to you is how does "Selling all", using the definition of "all" that you are using address the comment in John 20:10? "So the disciples went away again to their own homes." Can I assume the disciples sold "all" or not? Does "all" include homes? Please do not take me as attacking or sarcastic. I am curious and an investigative type. From my readings of various commentaries, it would seem to me that "all" really means "all surplus and worldly profits". I would assume that if Jesus sold the clothes on his back (an extreme definition of "all"), that it would have been noted or commented on. I can only assume, therefore, that he kept the clothes on his back. His disciples had homes. Not a home for the disciples, but homes (plural). Unless they bought their homes after the crucifixion, Jesus must have known about them. Jesus would have also commented on them when he returned. When Jesus commented about the poor woman giving so little at the temple. Jesus said she gave a greater gift than the rich man who gave more (in coin as opposed to percentage of wealth.) Jesus did not chastise the woman for not giving all. From my study, I believe that Jesus wants us to "give until it hurts", not "live off of the (so-called) Christians who have not taken and sold all so that we (real) Christians who have divested ourselves of ALL can be closer to Jesus." Nope, Jesus was about giving, sharing, and helping our fellow man - friend or enemy. How can one help our fellow men if we have nothing to give but words? We cannot share our fish and loaves of bread if we have none because we have "sold all". The system does not work if all Christians "sold all". This whole thread was created to help me find a verse that would lead me to the prior verse about charity and welcoming fellow Christians into our homes and our dinner table. Jesus was all about sharing, and not just words about heaven. He shared bread and fish, staples of this world's existence. To do that, he either had to have something himself or he had to acquire those somethings from people who did not accept his teachings (in the extreme definition you are using.) That said, unless Christianity is a pyramid scheme where each new convert is to sell all and give the earnings to pay the last set of new believers, the system will fall down and collapse. For the last set of new believers must rely on the generosity of someone and the older believers have nothing left since they sold all before. I highly doubt that Jesus meant for us to do this. There would have been better instructions. Looking back at this post, I realize it is pretty extreme in its point of view. I wish not to offend. Unfortunately, I cannot see anyway to address an extreme stance of "sell all" without following the logic to a reasonable conclusion. Pray, forgive me. |
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3 | Is asking for money false? | 2 John 1:10 | dhuskins | 143739 | ||
Luis, --Paul, Barnabas, and all other Faithful Christians that "we Idolize" today, had sold all and were aliens. Is this not clear? This seems to be in conflict with John 20:10... "So the disciples went away again to their own homes." |
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4 | Is asking for money false? | 2 John 1:10 | dhuskins | 143652 | ||
Yes, I did a great deal of searching, both here and elsewhere. I think the reason I could not find it was my mind was too locked into what I thought I remembered. As such, I did things like "three days" and "false teacher", "false prophet", etc. As such, I could not find what I was seeking. Thanks again. |
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5 | Is asking for money false? | 2 John 1:10 | dhuskins | 143647 | ||
Okay, so my memory was way off, but YES, this is what I was looking for. Thank you all for your enlightenment and assistance. The various other verses were equally valueable and I appreciate your time and efforts. May the Almighty bless and keep each and everyone of you. |
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6 | Giving charity to requesters for sermon | 2 John 1:10 | dhuskins | 143577 | ||
Yes, I am still looking. Some interesting items, but I am still looking for the reference. | ||||||
7 | Giving charity to requesters for sermon | 2 John 1:10 | dhuskins | 143572 | ||
It was the part that stood out in my memory. I am actually looking for the verse that preceeds it. I knew if I looked for what I was seeking, I would (have) found too many citations to dig through. | ||||||