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1 | Genesis 11:7 Who is "Us"? | Gen 11:7 | celestine6869 | 69398 | ||
When I said linguistically spoken words are a very POOR way to communicate an idea in the first place you wrote, “And yet it is the way God ordained to preserve His revelation for His people” HOW DO YOU KNOW? Were you one of the teachers who were there? What if when HE spoke, you understood the words that he used, and what if when he gave you a mental picture you had to put those images into words yourself? Not to mention that GOD Himself did not write the Bible. It was written by more that 40 different authors (who were INSPIRED) by God. However, in your defense, there are specific instances in the Bible where Jesus is speaking and those spoken words would have been exactly what God wanted to convey because Jesus Was God in the Flesh. (see me analogy below) Earlier I wrote, "Anyway, when we communicate with Him, he understands us even without words because when he made us he installed a communications link -. Your soul..." and then YOU said, “According to the Bible, it is not our souls that are the "communications link." It is God Himself, the Holy Spirit:” I hear what you are saying but I will have to disagree with you. I am convinced that when we pray to God WE USE WORDS, BUT HE conveys His message back to us via our own soul or spirit. Sometimes He uses spoken words in the form of a voice in our mind, but it is my experience that typically He replies to us with a “gut feeling”. In my opinion, this gut feeling is your soul which is connected to Him. By the way, I appreciate you helping make my point with the very quotes that validated what I am trying to say… “…GROWNINGS TOO DEEP FOR WORDS; and He who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the Spirit is…” --Romans 8:26-27” AND “…combining spiritual THOUGHTS with spiritual words." --1 Corinthians 2:12-13 Here is the analogy that I mentioned earlier, Let’s pretend God “SPEAKS” to you. Let’s say He show’s you an object and talks to you about it. Now I would image that he may or may not use only “spoken words” HE may also use pictures or images, could He not? Ok if we are in agreement for a moment – now I would like for you to look at a piece of wood furniture there in your home. Notice the intricate detail of the grains in the wood, the color, texture, shape, etc. You obviously see and KNOW what you are looking at right? Now I would like for you to describe for me in spoken (or obviously ‘for this example’ written) words what you are looking at so that I too will see exactly what you are looking at, which will allow me to see the very same image as you see it… |
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2 | Genesis 11:7 Who is "Us"? | Gen 11:7 | celestine6869 | 69397 | ||
When I said linguistically spoken words are a very POOR way to communicate an idea in the first place you wrote, “And yet it is the way God ordained to preserve His revelation for His people” HOW DO YOU KNOW? Were you one of the teachers who were there? What if when HE spoke, you understood the words that he used, and what if when he gave you a mental picture you had to put those images into words yourself? Not to mention that GOD Himself did not write the Bible. It was written by more that 40 different authors (who were INSPIRED) by God. However, in your defense, there are specific instances in the Bible where Jesus is speaking and those spoken words would have been exactly what God wanted to convey because Jesus Was God in the Flesh. (see me analogy below) Earlier I wrote, "Anyway, when we communicate with Him, he understands us even without words because when he made us he installed a communications link -. Your soul..." and then YOU said, “According to the Bible, it is not our souls that are the "communications link." It is God Himself, the Holy Spirit:” I hear what you are saying but I will have to disagree with you. I am convinced that when we pray to God WE USE WORDS, BUT HE conveys His message back to us via our own soul or spirit. Sometimes He uses spoken words in the form of a voice in our mind, but it is my experience that typically He replies to us with a “gut feeling”. In my opinion, this gut feeling is your soul which is connected to Him. By the way, I appreciate you helping make my point with the very quotes that validated what I am trying to say… “…GROWNINGS TOO DEEP FOR WORDS; and He who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the Spirit is…” --Romans 8:26-27” AND “…combining spiritual THOUGHTS with spiritual words." --1 Corinthians 2:12-13 Here is the analogy that I mentioned earlier, Let’s pretend God “SPEAKS” to you. Let’s say He show’s you an object and talks to you about it. Now I would image that he may or may not use only “spoken words” HE may also use pictures or images, could He not? Ok if we are in agreement for a moment – now I would like for you to look at a piece of wood furniture there in your home. Notice the intricate detail of the grains in the wood, the color, texture, shape, etc. You obviously see and KNOW what you are looking at right? Now I would like for you to describe for me in spoken (or obviously ‘for this example’ written) words what you are looking at so that I too will see exactly what you are looking at, which will allow me to see the very same image as you see it… |
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3 | Genesis 11:7 Who is "Us"? | Gen 11:7 | celestine6869 | 69396 | ||
When I said linguistically spoken words are a very POOR way to communicate an idea in the first place you wrote, “And yet it is the way God ordained to preserve His revelation for His people” HOW DO YOU KNOW? Were you one of the teachers who were there? What if when HE spoke, you understood the words that he used, and what if when he gave you a mental picture you had to put those images into words yourself? Not to mention that GOD Himself did not write the Bible. It was written by more that 40 different authors (who were INSPIRED) by God. However, in your defense, there are specific instances in the Bible where Jesus is speaking and those spoken words would have been exactly what God wanted to convey because Jesus Was God in the Flesh. (see me analogy below) Earlier I wrote, "Anyway, when we communicate with Him, he understands us even without words because when he made us he installed a communications link -. Your soul..." and then YOU said, “According to the Bible, it is not our souls that are the "communications link." It is God Himself, the Holy Spirit:” I hear what you are saying but I will have to disagree with you. I am convinced that when we pray to God WE USE WORDS, BUT HE conveys His message back to us via our own soul or spirit. Sometimes He uses spoken words in the form of a voice in our mind, but it is my experience that typically He replies to us with a “gut feeling”. In my opinion, this gut feeling is your soul which is connected to Him. By the way, I appreciate you helping make my point with the very quotes that validated what I am trying to say… “…GROWNINGS TOO DEEP FOR WORDS; and He who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the Spirit is…” --Romans 8:26-27” AND “…combining spiritual THOUGHTS with spiritual words." --1 Corinthians 2:12-13 Here is the analogy that I mentioned earlier, Let’s pretend God “SPEAKS” to you. Let’s say He show’s you an object and talks to you about it. Now I would image that he may or may not use only “spoken words” HE may also use pictures or images, could He not? Ok if we are in agreement for a moment – now I would like for you to look at a piece of wood furniture there in your home. Notice the intricate detail of the grains in the wood, the color, texture, shape, etc. You obviously see and KNOW what you are looking at right? Now I would like for you to describe for me in spoken (or obviously ‘for this example’ written) words what you are looking at so that I too will see exactly what you are looking at, which will allow me to see the very same image as you see it… |
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4 | Genesis 11:7 Who is "Us"? | Gen 11:7 | celestine6869 | 69395 | ||
Hello? Is anybody home or are you too filled up to hear another opinion? When a person is all filled up with what they THINK they know, then obviously they can not learn anything new? What I express here are my OPINIONS and it is too bad that one of us appears to be closed off. You are not accurate in your attack, Take a breath and I will explain. First of all, what do you mean we are not talking about translations?? This is exactly what we are talking about... Why do you think there are so many different denominations? Because people receive things differently (even though it is written the same) HOWEVER, THERE ARE many translation discrepancies between the different Bible versions!! I am sorry if you think I am making this up. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to understand what I am saying. In fact, I am not even sure what you are so upset about in the first place but to get one thing clear, yes there is only ONE GOD as you put it BUT THIS ONE GOD consists of God himself, Jesus, the Son of God, And the Holy Spirit (AKA The Trinity). You said, “We are not talking about translation discrepancies, but rather what is clearly stated in nearly every book…” This is exactly what I am talking about and the key to your comment is in your word ‘nearly’ I’m sorry you did not understand my comment ”just knowing” what Jesus or God wants. I will explain myself. Yes the Bible is the Truth and the word of God as it was understood by the people who were inspired to write it. What I mean is that when one studies the Bible he or she receives what is written. Now when this person is unclear as to what God means, he should pray about it and the truth and clarification will be made available to him. Now image this… Let’s pretend God “SPEAKS” to you. Let’s say He show’s you an object and talks to you about it. Now I would image that he may or may not use only “spoken words” HE may also use pictures or images, could He not? Ok if we are in agreement for a moment – now I would like for you to look at a piece of wood furniture there in your home. Notice the intricate detail of the grains in the wood, the color, texture, shape, etc. You obviously see and KNOW what you are looking at right? Now I would like for you to describe for me in spoken (or obviously ‘for this example’ written) words what you are looking at so that I too will see exactly what you are looking at, which will allow me to see the very same image as you see it… |
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5 | Genesis 11:7 Who is "Us"? | Gen 11:7 | celestine6869 | 69308 | ||
ok, I hear what you are saying and you make a good point, but I would like to suggest a possible thought... Is it possible that the usage of capitalization, grammer discrepencies, and word meanings are all feable and futile attempts at trying to translate that which comes from infinate intelligence with our finite and limited intelligence? Consider this... I am Dominican and my boyfriend is American, and even though we know each other better than we know ourselves, we still have gaps in the conversations because we are from two different worlds. When he and I communicate with each other we use word phrases and word meaning specific or relative to our home towns and there is sometimes errors, misunderstandings and confused messages between us. Sometimes when I have told him a funny joke and try to interpret it into English, it is not funny or etc. MAke sense? Here is an example. If I told a person from the Domincan Republic that it is "raining cats and dogs" they would look at me like I was an idiot. Here is a popular expression from my country, use a translation web page to see if you can decipher it. "Cacata con guaraguo!" | ||||||
6 | Genesis 11:7 Who is "Us"? | Gen 11:7 | celestine6869 | 69307 | ||
languistically spoken words are a very POOR way to communicate in the first place. In fact, spoken words are aproximately 40 percent of the message. When we communicate with Jesus, God, or the Holy Spirit (take your pick and see my comment on semantics) lol... Anyway, when we communicate with Him, he understands us even without words because when he made us he installed a communications link - ....your soul... | ||||||
7 | Genesis 11:7 Who is "Us"? | Gen 11:7 | celestine6869 | 69306 | ||
semantics.... 3 beings, 3 persons, capital letters verse non capital letters. I would add a word of caution to those of you who get caught up in translation discrepencies... As far as I am concerned, if you really want to know the answer you will need to request it from the source. Because when God gives you information - you "just know" and sometimes trying to explain somethat that you "just know" is easier said than done... | ||||||