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1 | Can a woman divorce man: Ongoing porn? | Matthew | bandaid | 212683 | ||
Believe me I have tried everything. He has at his disposal Christian counselors that specifically deal with "Sexual Brokeness" or awesome websites or mens support groups. He refuses to get invloved in any of those as he feels he can do it on his own. The "on his own" has lasted a good 4 years now since my discovery with no change whatsoever. Only worse. My feeling is that other areas such as pride, denial, forgiveness and shame need to be addressed first. I cannot do any of that for him, and I and my children are no longer in his home. I can only share with him from time to time, but his feelings are like eggshells. It is best for me to stay away as much as possible. All I can give is prayer about the areas I see he is struggling in. How much prayer is enough? God give me wisdom in what I do say. In what i ask for. Give me strength to face the reality of this situation wherever that leads. I love my husband enough to want him free even if it means without me. And at this point I don't even know who he really is anymore. He does seem to be possesed at times and it is scary to see such a talented man who knows compassion so far from who he was and now is becoming something I don't know. Can prayer and fasting set him free? I hope so. I don't care what anyone else thinks about this, if an agape type of love for someone is the reason behind fasting and praying I don't think there is any other better use for faith in it. |
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2 | Porn in spouse overcome thru fasting? | Galatians | bandaid | 212673 | ||
NASB Matt 17:15 "Lord, have mercy on my son, for he is a lunatic and is very ill; for he often falls into the fire and often into the water. Matt 17:16 "I brought him to Your disciples, and they could not cure him." Matt 17:17 And Jesus answered and said, "You unbelieving and perverted generation, how long shall I be with you? How long shall I put up with you? Bring him here to Me." Matt 17:18 And Jesus rebuked him, and the demon came out of him, and the boy was cured at once. Matt 17:19 Then the disciples came to Jesus privately and said, "Why could we not drive it out?" Matt 17:20 And He *said to them, "Because of the littleness of your faith; for truly I say to you, if you have faith the size of a mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it will move; and nothing will be impossible to you. Matt 17:21 ["But this kind does not go out except by prayer and fasting."] Mark 9:17 And one of the crowd answered Him, "Teacher, I brought You my son, possessed with a spirit which makes him mute; Mark 9:18 and whenever it seizes him, it slams him to the ground and he foams at the mouth, and grinds his teeth and stiffens out. I told Your disciples to cast it out, and they could not do it." Mark 9:19 And He *answered them and *said, "O unbelieving generation, how long shall I be with you? How long shall I put up with you? Bring him to Me!" Mark 9:20 They brought the boy to Him. When he saw Him, immediately the spirit threw him into a convulsion, and falling to the ground, he began rolling around and foaming at the mouth. Mark 9:21 And He asked his father, "How long has this been happening to him?" And he said, "From childhood. Mark 9:22 "It has often thrown him both into the fire and into the water to destroy him. But if You can do anything, take pity on us and help us!" Mark 9:23 And Jesus said to him, "'If You can?' All things are possible to him who believes." Mark 9:24 Immediately the boy's father cried out and said, "I do believe; help my unbelief." Mark 9:25 When Jesus saw that a crowd was rapidly gathering, He rebuked the unclean spirit, saying to it, "You deaf and mute spirit, I command you, come out of him and do not enter him again." Mark 9:26 After crying out and throwing him into terrible convulsions, it came out; and the boy became so much like a corpse that most of them said, "He is dead!" Mark 9:27 But Jesus took him by the hand and raised him; and he got up. Mark 9:28 When He came into the house, His disciples began questioning Him privately, "Why could we not drive it out?" Mark 9:29 And He said to them, "This kind cannot come out by anything but prayer." The NASB taken from this site and my study bible. The NASB is, my understanding, the closest to the original translation. |
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3 | Porn in spouse overcome thru fasting? | Galatians | bandaid | 212672 | ||
NASB Matt 17:15 "Lord, have mercy on my son, for he is a lunatic and is very ill; for he often falls into the fire and often into the water. Matt 17:16 "I brought him to Your disciples, and they could not cure him." Matt 17:17 And Jesus answered and said, "You unbelieving and perverted generation, how long shall I be with you? How long shall I put up with you? Bring him here to Me." Matt 17:18 And Jesus rebuked him, and the demon came out of him, and the boy was cured at once. Matt 17:19 Then the disciples came to Jesus privately and said, "Why could we not drive it out?" Matt 17:20 And He *said to them, "Because of the littleness of your faith; for truly I say to you, if you have faith the size of a mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it will move; and nothing will be impossible to you. Matt 17:21 ["But this kind does not go out except by prayer and fasting."] Mark 9:17 And one of the crowd answered Him, "Teacher, I brought You my son, possessed with a spirit which makes him mute; Mark 9:18 and whenever it seizes him, it slams him to the ground and he foams at the mouth, and grinds his teeth and stiffens out. I told Your disciples to cast it out, and they could not do it." Mark 9:19 And He *answered them and *said, "O unbelieving generation, how long shall I be with you? How long shall I put up with you? Bring him to Me!" Mark 9:20 They brought the boy to Him. When he saw Him, immediately the spirit threw him into a convulsion, and falling to the ground, he began rolling around and foaming at the mouth. Mark 9:21 And He asked his father, "How long has this been happening to him?" And he said, "From childhood. Mark 9:22 "It has often thrown him both into the fire and into the water to destroy him. But if You can do anything, take pity on us and help us!" Mark 9:23 And Jesus said to him, "'If You can?' All things are possible to him who believes." Mark 9:24 Immediately the boy's father cried out and said, "I do believe; help my unbelief." Mark 9:25 When Jesus saw that a crowd was rapidly gathering, He rebuked the unclean spirit, saying to it, "You deaf and mute spirit, I command you, come out of him and do not enter him again." Mark 9:26 After crying out and throwing him into terrible convulsions, it came out; and the boy became so much like a corpse that most of them said, "He is dead!" Mark 9:27 But Jesus took him by the hand and raised him; and he got up. Mark 9:28 When He came into the house, His disciples began questioning Him privately, "Why could we not drive it out?" Mark 9:29 And He said to them, "This kind cannot come out by anything but prayer." The NASB taken from this site and my study bible. The NASB is, my understanding, the closest to the original translation. |
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4 | Can a woman divorce man: Ongoing porn? | Matthew | bandaid | 212670 | ||
The original question: ""Matt 5:27 "You have heard that it was said, 'YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY'; Matt 5:28 but I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. Mark 10:10 In the house the disciples began questioning Him about this again. Mark 10:11 And He *said to them, "Whoever divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her; Mark 10:12 and if she herself divorces her husband and marries another man, she is committing adultery." In these verses it specifically addresses the mans right to divorce a woman under the grounds of adultery, but it does not specifically say a woman can divorce her husband. Is a woman biblically allowed the right to divorce a man under these grounds (porn as adultery) or does she have to seperate and wait for her husband to divorce her? That was the original question. And my only request. There were many awesome and inspiring verses given as help from many people. But the question was specific relating to the male and female forms used in the text. Many of the verses people gave had absolutely nothing to do with the question as much as something supposed to be used as inspiration for the circumstance they supposed I was in and they were offering help on. I tried several times to make it clear I was fine...I needed answers to the original question. Very few people answered the original question, and that was really all I needed and asked for. I did NOT ask assistance with verses for my heart, or counseling, or support groups, or pastoring. Simply the question: Is a woman biblically allowed the right to divorce a man under these grounds (porn as adultery) or does she have to seperate and wait for her husband to divorce her? After that it was mayhem to simply ask everyone to focus on the original question. In which Cheri was able to. |
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5 | Can a woman divorce man: Ongoing porn? | Matthew | bandaid | 212666 | ||
Konichiwah Justme, Matt 5:27-28 Mark 10:10-12 In these verses it specifically addresses the mans right to divorce a woman under the grounds of adultery, but it does not specifically say, a woman can divorce her husband. Is a woman biblically allowed the right to divorce a man under these grounds (porn as adultery) or does she have to seperate and wait for her husband to divorce her? |
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6 | Can a woman divorce man: Ongoing porn? | Matthew | bandaid | 212663 | ||
Awesome, Keliy! Thank you so much for your insight on this and the scriptural texts. This sin can lead to so much pain, denial and depression in a man, he is unable to lead a normal life outside of superficial activities. A woman can forgive her husband and walk with him through all his trials, but he has to be willing to put aside his own pride and unforgiveness to focus on himself and get the help he needs before she can walk it with him. When a man is in denial, and won't get help, there is little you can do. Or is there? I believe in the power of Gods Word. But I don't want to live in my own denial of his freewill. Which is stronger...or will overcome? |
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7 | Can a woman divorce man: Ongoing porn? | Matthew | bandaid | 212661 | ||
Is there any hope for a man who CHOOSES not to get help... through the power of prayer (and fasting?) Is there any hope for a man unable to get help due to indwelling spirits...through the power of prayer and fasting? The ideas I linger with: is the point a man gets to with pornography the opening of doors allowing evil spirits to take over his life as I would believe the bible would clarify, and I tend to agree more with. and how much plays the role of physical stimulation and mental habits of a man addicted to porn affecting the dopamines that require him as an addict to get more, when he comes down in his depressed state. I trust biblical knowledge over psychology. I beleive God can free us from anything He chooses. Does He choose to free this man is a question. |
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8 | Can a woman divorce man: Ongoing porn? | Matthew | bandaid | 212657 | ||
That wasn't the question. lol! Maybe you should reread it. Although the answer to this one Cheri and I came up with. You're right, what was all the hubbub! Simple enough question, simple enough answer. You guys are the ones who added all the rabbit trails and hubbub. I simply asked you all to stay focused on the questions. To sit and fester on how you would kill these people you hated day after day fantasising every detail. Any difference between hating and being angry, or fantasising/dwelling on the varied details of the murder while you continually stab a pillow. There is a difference. No-one said anything about prison or mans laws. The questions are all concerning Gods laws. Now you are being nasty. Hello, If I wanted mans definition, I would have gone to the dictionary. And this site is for __________.(StudyBibleForum)If I wanted Yahoo!Answers I would have gone there. I'm simply quoting the bible, what Jesus said. Jesus said quite clearly it was adultery. porneia. But seeing this is what you came up with, I'll accept that as being your best shot. Thanks. |
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9 | Porn in spouse overcome thru fasting? | Galatians | bandaid | 212656 | ||
Thanks a lot Brad! The title alone is very interesting. Band Aid |
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10 | Porn in spouse overcome thru fasting? | Galatians | bandaid | 212654 | ||
Not so Doc. Following Christs examples, Words, teachings and reasoning it is sound to believe that there is power in prayer...and fasting. Eph 6:12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Eph 6:18-20 With all prayer and petition pray at all times in the Spirit, and with this in view, be on the alert with all perseverance and PETITION 1162 deêsis; from 1189a; a need, entreaty:--entreaties(2), petition(3), prayer(6), prayers(6), supplication(1). for all the saints, and pray on my behalf, that utterance may be given to me in the opening of my mouth, to make known with boldness the mystery of the gospel, for which I am an ambassador in chains; that in proclaiming it I may speak boldly, as I ought to speak. God doesn't relate prayer to a pretty flower we pick, It is related as a powerful form of weaponry, armour, incense, petition along with the Word and the other forms of Godly armour. I'm not sure why you came up with those verses, that is referred to in psychology also as "magical thinking". As some of Christs followers made the mistake of trying to buy this power, it was condemned. Christianity isn't about making signs in the air nor is anything you mentioned. Neither is killing rams or bulls as sacrifices. Particularily what false presuppositions are you relating to? I don't see I have presupposed anything but in sharing ideas based on Gods Word. Maybe I won't get any biblically sound answers from you, but perhaps someone else has some ideas they want to share. I'm sure there is much much more to the bible then what you came up with. But thank you for your best shot at it. |
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11 | Porn in spouse overcome thru fasting? | Galatians | bandaid | 212650 | ||
Keliy, I can appreciate your situation and where you have been. One of our family professions is counseling. It is difficult for people especially laypeople to seperate their own feelings and experiences from others' situations. Counselors have to struggle to do this daily, or they will miss on hearing someone elses singular unique need. That is why they have years of school and trainning, to use the knowledge they have learned in each of those seperate instances and keep there own perhaps, skewed views, out of their counsel. Hopefully they can use there own experiences to help someone else instead of hindering their advice. Fortunately for me, I have a wide and vast array of help and inspiration when I need it. I have chosen to stay open to hearing God in my own life and what He is showing me through my own unique circumstances and in no way feel I know it all or have not missed my own blind spots. It is a daily process, and it is exciting to learn afresh Gods Word everyday and how it pertains to my own or loved ones lives. By coming here to this site, is just another piece of weaponary I have picked up to fight the battle I am in for my husbands mind, body and soul. I have my armour on yet I don't think I am strong enough lest I fall, but I can do several things at one time. This site to me is for finding ideas on these questions I have not explored and answers in the original texts and verses to the questions I have stated. I know you want to help, just in this circumstance with me, I don't really need that kind. Really. I simply have come for the meat of my questions and any scriptural references since this site is so very awesome that all of the concordances are so easy to get and I can choose the NASB which is the closest to the original translation. I'm a bit beyond the bread, although God keeps me humbled and I learn more through the same Word I have read a 100 times. There are times I have pain, regrets and anger over my situation, I deal with that. But I am using that to dig into Gods love and in this situation His Word. Meditating on what He is telling me. Finding answers to very pertinent questions. I was looking for a site that scholars may use to study in depth the meaning of every word in scripture. I cannot expect the professors and people around me to focus on only my questions when there are so many in more need. But if someone needs money to buy food, you either give them money, or get them food they can eat depending on their dietary needs and likes. You cannot give them a can of tuna and expect them to say thank you wholeheartedly if they are allergic to it. Maybe that is not a very good picture, but I simply would like the focus of this forum - for me - to be on the exciting study of Gods Word and the questions I have I don't mind debating. Not my circumstances. At this point I am not wallowing in pain or hurt. I am not cold to it, I just have already been through most of it and I expect there will be more to feel. Right now I feel excitement over Gods Word and finding the answers I seek. It has been a huge issue to just get the focus of the forum on the questions, knowing not everyone will have the same beliefs and scriptures and all the knowledge of the bible. Unfortunately, that is not where the focus went, and it is rather frustrating having to explain to each and every kind person, I'm okay, can you answer the questions please? Give your views and time and paragraphs...on the questions. Bandaid is okay. Which by the way, my name refers to instrumental group helper. So, thank you for taking so much time to show compassion over my situation. If you can share any ideas on my original questions I would be delighted. |
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12 | Can a woman divorce man: Ongoing porn? | Matthew | bandaid | 212645 | ||
Great answers Cheri! I also noticed as I was quoting Matt 5:28 it generalizes men lusting after women. I had to laugh just a little realizing that did not mean we women can lust or view porn of men and it's not mentioned...in that scripture anyway. Yes to brains, it's just there are so many differing views and ideas on scripture that it really matters to take it all back to the original texts and understanding of that time and era. It is very exciting to focus on some of these questions since God asks us to meditate on His Word, that is really where all of lifes answers are, in my opinion. God is the Mighty Counselor. This is the meat I am hungry for. |
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13 | Can a woman divorce man: Ongoing porn? | Matthew | bandaid | 212644 | ||
When I get answers that biblically make sense, I will be :cP | ||||||
14 | Can a woman divorce man: Ongoing porn? | Matthew | bandaid | 212643 | ||
Matt 5:28 but I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. Matt 5:32 but I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, except for the reason of unchastity, makes her commit adultery; and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery. unchastity:4202 PORNEIA; from 4203; fornication:--fornication(4), fornications(2), immoralities(1), immorality(16), sexual immorality(1), unchastity(1). Study Notes: Jesus is saying the desire to have sex with someone other than your wife is mental adultery and thus sin. Jesus emphathized that if the act is wrong, then so is the intention. To be faithful to your wife with your body (depending) but not your mind is to break the trust so vital to a strong marriage. Is it not a sin to have sex with your wife and be thinking of someone else, or to have sex with someone else and be thinking of your wife? Jesus says clearly porn is adultery. The old saying you let let a bird fly over your head, but not nest in your hair does help to summarize this. It is okay to appreciate the beauty of a womans form, just don't let it nest there, or hurt your wife. Biblical grounds for divorce is adultery. Mans laws do not necessarily extend into the biblical text. Mans divorce laws usually means physical adultery. Jesus is biblically stating that porn is grounds for divorce. (ie., unchastity:porneia) There are people around still who really don't look at porn and it is still biblically considered adultery no matter what the world says. |
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15 | Can a woman divorce man: Ongoing porn? | Matthew | bandaid | 212634 | ||
Do you even remember my questions? My request was the focus on the questions. Not on my situation. I asked for no assistance BUT to my questions. If you followed along you would have read that ONE simple request over and over... and over again. This is a great group of people, who mean well. It's been a matter of going over the same request to FOCUS, again, on my questions and not my situation. That is well under wings of protection. I am hungry to know what Gods Word says about the ideas portrayed in the questions I asked, and I can just ask again that people respect that. |
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16 | Can a woman divorce man: Ongoing porn? | Matthew | bandaid | 212632 | ||
I am well out of the way, I am focusing on my own well being...but I still have enough love, strength and faith inside myself to pray for the reconciliation of my husband to God. I can do a few things at a time! ;cD | ||||||
17 | Can a woman divorce man: Ongoing porn? | Matthew | bandaid | 212631 | ||
Thank you! I want to pray rightly and I have had to undergo many changes myself. Yes, my own faith, Gods mighty loving grace, and stubborn persistance has brought me this far. | ||||||
18 | Can a woman divorce man: Ongoing porn? | Matthew | bandaid | 212629 | ||
Thank you Cheri. I have heard many stories and testimonies of supernatural happenings in this time. And stories over the years from missionaries, friends and pastors and books with awesome stories of Gods intervention. My questions pertain to the biblical truths of Gods intervention in the bible when he frees people, some who seem to not even be asking. Like the man in the tombs who was possessed and freed from the legions. I will read those verses. | ||||||
19 | Can a woman divorce man: Ongoing porn? | Matthew | bandaid | 212627 | ||
I thought this was supposed to be a bible study forum? If I had wanted extensive advice I would have told my story in full, to get the same advice I have heard for the past five years from my elders, brothers, sisters, pastors, professors, authorities and friends. I don't need to go over all of that again for strangers sakes. This is a bible study forum to study the Word!, not get counseling. At least that was my understanding when I read the requirements. I am already addressing all of those other issues in full and simply am curious about the other subjects very few people have even focused on. All I want is a clear focus on my questions, I have everything else I need. I have already been studying and addressing each and everything AGAIN mentioned by strangers who have no clue, and don't need to go over those things again. Just simply answer my bible questions and talk about the subjects of the questions themselves. How hard is that? This is where I have progressed at this point. |
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20 | Can a woman divorce man: Ongoing porn? | Matthew | bandaid | 212626 | ||
Please read Col 3:12 again. I can only suggest to you to wait 2 days to respond after reading someones questions, rereading them again to employ a clear understanding of what they are asking. Then reread your answers again. Then make changes to what you write. You will not be heard for your many words, and you may sound as a clanging cymbal. I am asking you to refrain from trying to instruct me since I sense you still have no clear understanding. Your "honest answer to me" is in still not listening to anything I have said! I do not care to listen to what works for you since you are not the example I would want to portray. I will not be reading anymore of your posts. |
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