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1 | What can we do to have salvation | NT general Archive 1 | arrow1 | 115281 | ||
Colin, yes it is necessary. Acts 3:19, Acts 11:18, Luke 24:47, 2 Corinth. 7:10 |
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2 | How many in upper room?? | Bible general Archive 2 | arrow1 | 115277 | ||
to Aspiring Overseer: I too am a Financial Advisor, send me an email sometime at tbolson76@hotmail.com thanks, arrow1 |
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3 | 2nd ? Did Spirit save them? | Bible general Archive 2 | arrow1 | 115266 | ||
I didn't mean the "sole" purpose was to give the ability to speak in tongues, but definitely ushering in the new church and confirming God's word with power was a major part of it. As to Romans 8:7, Ananias and Sapphira were Christians and they were hostile to God, they lied to the Holy Spirit and God struck them dead. Simon,(Acts chapter 8) a Christian, tried to buy the Gift of the Spirit from Peter, and Peter said his heart was not right before God and that he was full of bitterness and captive to sin. That seems to point out two examples of Christians (someone who was saved and had the "indwelling of the Spirit"), and were hostile to God. arrow1 |
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4 | what is baptism | Bible general Archive 1 | arrow1 | 115083 | ||
you are mistaken, being baptized in water is exactly how you are making the pledge, and it is effective because of the resurrection of christ | ||||||
5 | Water baptism unnecessary for conversion | Acts 2:38 | arrow1 | 114450 | ||
I believe the reason was to show that the Gospel was now open to the Gentiles, of course they would decide for themselves whether to accept or reject it, as is everyone's perrogative. | ||||||
6 | Did you know Campbell was not baptized? | Acts 2:38 | arrow1 | 114445 | ||
The gentlemen who wrote the Nicene Creed in 325 AD also believed in "one baptism for the forgiveness of sins" as did all(as far as I can tell) of the early church fathers. One of the best books on this subject is "Will the Real Heretics Please Stand Up" by David Bercot. The sinner's prayer and altar calls are only 200 years old and were unknown prior to that time, which is why I question those beliefs. arrow1 ps I never said I was a member of COC or ICOC. |
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7 | Water baptism unnecessary for conversion | Acts 2:38 | arrow1 | 114444 | ||
My view, which not all agree with is that it died out with the apostles. Speaking in tongues and prophecy were powerfull symbols and helped usher in the new church. Once the church was established and we had the teachings of the apostles which were handed down by word of mouth and by letter, those gifts were no longer needed(1 Corinth. 13:8-10). arrow1, but that's just my view, I'll agree it's a tough subject........... |
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8 | Water baptism unnecessary for conversion | Acts 2:38 | arrow1 | 114341 | ||
Yes we are all equal in that God loves us all equally, the gospel is to be preached to all, and we all have the right to accept or reject it. The whole point of that story is "mainly" that up until that time the gospel was only preached to the Jews and now it was open to Gentiles as well. Read the context of the entire story. The jewish christians were really "struggling" with allowing Gentiles into the church. It was a BIG deal. Hence Peter's dream and God doing something really miraculous just like at Pentecost. I asked the question before, did the Holy Spirit save the 12 apostles at Pentecost or were they already saved? Again, Gal. 3:26-27, they were "baptized into Christ". |
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9 | please respond? | Acts 2:38 | arrow1 | 114340 | ||
Sorry, I was simply responding to morant61........ | ||||||
10 | Water baptism unnecessary for conversion | Acts 2:38 | arrow1 | 114339 | ||
You are incorrect. The ICOC does use musical instruments. There are many traditional churches of christ. Some use musical instruments, and there are also many that don't. That was one doctrine I never really agreed with. It seems like one of those minor disputable matters which Christians could agree to disagree on. It is a bit of a connundrum, Efree has infant dedication and Luth. baptizes infants, neither of which has scriptural examples. The two I attend happen to be the two fastest growing churches in Des Moines right now. 1)Catholics adhere to baptismal regeneration 2)Evangelicals have the sinners prayer and faith alone 3)and then there is adult repentance and baptism into Christ. To me those are three distintly different doctrines. It's hard to believe that they are all correct at the same time. If you pick one, it seems you're condemning the others all to hell. That makes hell pretty crowded. I have personal friends in all three camps. They are all equally dedicated to and in love with the Lord. I admit I do struggle with that. Maybe I'm still searching a little myself. sincerely, arrow1 |
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11 | arrow1, what is your demonination? | Acts 2:38 | arrow1 | 114337 | ||
searcher56, not sure what you mean by ?withdrawn, missed answer.............?? |
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12 | What can we do to have salvation | NT general Archive 1 | arrow1 | 114318 | ||
Why point out there is no mention of baptism in 1 Cor. 15:1-4, there is also no mention of faith, belief or repentance. But, it does say your saved if you hold firmly to the word. In almost all of Paul's letters, he is speaking to Christians, people that are already saved. It wouldn't make sense to repeat every little detail of their conversion every time he mentions the Gospel. It would make sense to speak of faith because once your saved, you would continue having faith and living faithfully. If repentance were necessary for salvation, wouldn't you also expect to find it stressed whenever the gospel is presented? Your "analogia scriptura" is selective and not consistent. sincerely, arrow1 |
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13 | Water baptism unnecessary for conversion | Acts 2:38 | arrow1 | 114270 | ||
1)If baptism isn't part of the full gospel message, than what is it part of, and where in scripture is its specific purpose and function and meaning explained? 2) Study the book of Acts and the conversion experiences closely. In "every" conversion experience, they all had the exact same response upon hearing the gospel message. If they all had the same immediate response, what "must" have they all just been told to evoke such a response. Really, think about that for a minute. In each and every case, they were all baptized "immediately". Now, if you witnessed and shared your faith with someone, would they have the same response the new converts in the book of Acts did. I submit they would not, because they would here a slightly different story than did they converts in the specific examples in Acts. Now, why is that? thanks, arrow1 |
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14 | What does baptism consist? | 1 John 5:6 | arrow1 | 114212 | ||
To be consistent verse a) , b), and f) do not mention repentance, thus repentance is not essential. Section 1) part a) you say there are many references which state salvation is through "faith alone", when in reality the phrase "faith alone" is found nowhere in scripture. Just making a point, arrow1 |
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15 | Has speaking in tongues ceased? | 1 Corinthians | arrow1 | 114211 | ||
Thanks Ephraim, I never before noticed the part where Ananias placed his hands on Saul "so that he may see and be Filled With The Holy Spirit. I'm not sure I totally agree but am now looking at that verse in a different light. Thanks for shedding new insight. arrow1 |
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16 | Water baptism unnecessary for conversion | Acts 2:38 | arrow1 | 114038 | ||
So what you're saying is, Saul upon meeting Jesus on the road to Damascus was spiritually(washed and/or cleansed of sin internally by the Holy Spirit) baptized if you will, and then later after meeting Ananias, was water baptized by him as a symbol, making his public confession of faith. If that's what you mean that's okay, I just wanted to clarify your statement in my own mind. I'll respect your answer. Based on some other posts, I'll best not reply and give the baptism thing a rest for awhile. Thanks, arrow1 |
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17 | MARK 16:16: Was it perverted? | Bible general Archive 2 | arrow1 | 113997 | ||
It also did not say "to them that had faith alone" or "to them that truly repented", or "to them that counted the cost". It all depends on the meaning of received him. Where does it say 'specifically' baptism is a "profession before man"? 1 Peter 3:21 says it is a pledge to God. sincerely, arrow1 |
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18 | MARK 16:16: Was it perverted? | Bible general Archive 2 | arrow1 | 113990 | ||
Peter spent 40 days with Jesus (acts chapter 1) learning about the Kingdom of God. Then in the very 1st sermon in scripture the first four words out of his mouth are "repent and be baptized". If you'll closely examine the conversions in Acts, what was there immediate response to the message?, then back up, what "must they have just been told in order to evoke that immediate response", you can go back to Peter's sermon each time for the answer. Obviously there were all told the same story, they all had the same response. Paul's teachings came much later in scripture. Most all of his letters are addressed to Christians that are already saved, thus in most cases he is not describing how to be saved(no need to) he is speaking of remaining faithful, or growing in their faith. Often times he is settling disputes that have arisen in the local church and trying to get them back on track. Thus mentioning baptism would often be redundant and serve no purpose. Paul himself, after meeting Jesus and fasting and praying 3 days, still was baptized to have his sins washed away. God did all the "work", Paul was simply responding to the Gospel. If you could simply view baptism as an act of faith, the same as believing and repenting are acts of faith, not works of the law, then you can take the rest the Bible literally. Instead, you come up with the phrase 'faith alone', (which is not in scripture) and say, "that is the doctrine, now let us go back and figure out a way to explain all those baptism scriptures that seem to contradict it". Why not just read the Bible, it says what it says in plain English, and simply accept. Added note.... Altar Calls, Sinners Prayer, Outward Sign of Inward Grace, these are concepts developed in just the last 200 years and were totally unknown before that time. Show me anyone, anywhere, who ever believed in those ideas during the 1st 1500 years of Christianity. I'll say thanks in advance for a careful and well thought out response. Sincerely, arrow1 |
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19 | Water baptism unnecessary for conversion | Acts 2:38 | arrow1 | 113950 | ||
Yes, and most of them have been answered with a well thought out response, which I appreciate. Wish I could say the same for yours............. |
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20 | Water baptism unnecessary for conversion | Acts 2:38 | arrow1 | 113939 | ||
still waiting patiently for a response, thanx, arrow1 |
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