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1 | Disease or Bad Personal Choice?? | Bible general Archive 1 | angellightboy | 87017 | ||
Hi Tim, Thanks for your notation! You are right in Romans 6 when St. Paul talks about yielding our body to reflect God. This a point that I try to live by each day. I especially like 1 Cor 6:12-20. This describes that our very bodies are his temple. Whatever we do to them in a sexual context should be moral and right. Also in 1 Cor 7:17-24, breaking it down vs 20 and 21, I interpret slave to mean "subject to this world". As subject, I believe two things play out here. The spirit and the body. The body is created by God but subject to laws of this world. The spirit however is free from all. When vs 21, where you called while a slave? I interpreted that to mean in our individual circumstances in life we each have different points. I happened to be in a gay disco when the spirit called me. I looked around, I was not happy with what I saw. I was not happy with me and who I had become. Being gay was not the issue. The lust I felt from everyone else was too much. I left. Verse 24 means God put us there for a reason in that place. That the spirit called us there, and because of this we grew in Christ. I dont know the word in each bible, but mine specifically uses the word "state". This means to me the point where God came into our lives to change our hearts. I remember my mother telling me as a child God wrote right and wrong on every heart. Based on the state I was in, the scripture, and through prayer, this is what I concluded. A single monogomous relationship in true love, is what God wants us to have. If Jesus came down and spoke to you right now, would you really take out your bible and say, I cant find that anywhere, you didnt say that here, or (now this is extreme) your wrong? I dont think you would. I believe that however we are and live our lives, the question really comes down to this, do we love completely everyone and everything. When we love we have God. The American Indians for example, some lived their life through love. Because they didnt know Jesus, doesnt mean they didnt know God. I dont believe they will be eternally damned for simplicity of not knowing Christianity. I also don't think it is a fair comparison of a monogomous gay relationship with an adulterous relationship. Also when I applied the Matthew verse, I am recalling being kicked out of my mothers church, shunned at many other churches, being spit on in school, being kicked, judged, ridiculed by fellow "christians". I pray that they see no superiority in being Christian, but knowing they found love in Christ and therefore have the burden of passing love on to others. Not through conversion, not through ministering a particular religion, but through your actions, through your words, do you (speaking generally) show others God's love and permote love? Would love to hear your take on this Tim. Thanks for your well wishes. Your friend in Christ, Florian |
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2 | Disease or Bad Personal Choice?? | Bible general Archive 1 | angellightboy | 86999 | ||
Hello Tim, I am glad that you know my life so well and haven't judged me. A few years ago I was involved in a car accident, resulting in the paralysis of just under my stomach downwards. I am living the truth to what I believe God is to me. If you care to view any of the links I submitted in previous posts, you can clearly see the Bible as it was written long ago, through translation and reference mistakes has lot its origional meaning in regards to homosexuality. This is why I believe it crucial to consult the source (God) through prayer and meditation. I believe it to be also vital before passing judgement on anyone, to first really go in depth and get the facts. I dont hold it against you or any other "Christian" who shunned, judged, hit, or otherwise seperated me from Gods love. I am praying for you and others like you to stop and see that this behavior is not right. If God came to me, helped me, and told me these things, I know you would deny them as blasphemous. When Christ walked the earth others did the same to him. I leave you with a thought from scripture: Matthew 5:10-12 Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness,for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you. |
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3 | Disease or Bad Personal Choice?? | Bible general Archive 1 | angellightboy | 86958 | ||
sound scripture. ok. then please show me some! because after seeing what the bible was and is now are two different things. see for yourself. i didnt loose, the losers are the people who put the faith in falsehoods http://hcqsa.virtualave.net/dispell.html http://hem.passagen.se/nicb/bible.htm http://www.whosoever.org/v2i5/defense.html |
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4 | Disease or Bad Personal Choice?? | Bible general Archive 1 | angellightboy | 86943 | ||
Hank, There are many different people in this world. People have different views, values and beliefs when it comes to God. Not everyone has to agree. They can agree to disagree. I hope that by discussing, talking about it we grow. Either one way or the other. By talking today with you it seems that you choose to try and enforce your views on me. I pray that this isnt the case in other aspects of your life (ie. views of women, african americans, hindus). If it is then it would dangerously border the world in which Hitler tried to create. A world without homosexuals, handicapped, jews and other ethnic groups. The philosophy behind that was very similar for how you conclude it to be evil. I pray that through understanding, tolerance and love would not only help in the middle east conflicts, but also you personally. I studied Humanities with a majoy in cultural philosophy. The way you speak, seems as if you are not even attempting to try to understand other views. I dont quote scripture only for the fact many evil people before me have as well (ie. slavery, wars, killing). Remember the inquisition? God meant for his word to be applied to life, yet how was it that these people came to the conclusion these evils are the will of God? Today we shudder when we think of that, but in that time, in those places....there was the bible. What I AM doing however, is combining the bible, prayer, and my personal walk with God to express what I believe God to be to me, and trying to understand the hatred and persecution of the gay people. Intrestingly I have no intention of changing your views or defending mine. I just wanted to express my views of God and scripture. God wrote on every heart the truth. This is my truth. So, as you wish I will leave this place letting you continue whatever opinion you want to express. God welcomes me with open arms to his house. Florian |
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5 | Disease or Bad Personal Choice?? | Bible general Archive 1 | angellightboy | 86934 | ||
Prazn- Thank you for the comment! Glory be truly to the Lord. *smile* Your friend, Florian |
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6 | Disease or Bad Personal Choice?? | Bible general Archive 1 | angellightboy | 86933 | ||
I will let you focus on hell then. I will focus on God. And isnt this a forum to hear and discuss? Im sorry my opinions arent yours. That is why I am here. Trying to understand your hate for homosexuals. You may say, we love homosexuals, but we hate the sin. How come I feel like you are trying to seperate me and God? How come I feel I can not discuss views about the bible? I am sorry again if I offended you. America gave free rights to express ideas, to grow through talking. Mabye I am in the wrong place to talk about God. | ||||||
7 | Disease or Bad Personal Choice?? | Bible general Archive 1 | angellightboy | 86931 | ||
I never meant to say Ruth and Naomi were in a sexually relationship! I just found it was interesting to see the application of words two women shared to be the vows taken today. This commitment and pledge of devotion between the two is exactly the commitment I am speaking of when entering the committed relationship. I am sorry if I offended you in anyway. I thought this was a forum to disuss and hear other peoples views and how they see God. I didn't think it would be a place where I would be made to feel apart from God. He did say when two people are gathered in my name, there I will be. I just wanted to express my view of him. I am sorry if that conflicted with any of your beliefs. As always my door is open to listen. I will pray for you and everyone that through Christ, you may see love has many shapes, colors, and forms. In Christ Jesus Florian |
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8 | Disease or Bad Personal Choice?? | Bible general Archive 1 | angellightboy | 86928 | ||
Hell is seperation from God. I believe God is in my life. When he is in my life. I have love. I would never want to not have it. I dont believe in a fire and brimstone hell. I believe in the seperation from God, which is a eternal life without love and joy. I could never imagine that for anyone. The way to God, I dont believe is being straight. The way to God is through Jesus. It is through love. To focus on hell, is a waste of time. We all should focus on God and his love, praying for those who havent expierenced it. | ||||||
9 | Disease or Bad Personal Choice?? | Bible general Archive 1 | angellightboy | 86925 | ||
Prayer does always good. I will pray for the truth to be made even more apparant. God combined his truth by inspring man to write it. The bible is written by man inspired by God. To an extension the text I write right now, I believe to be inspired by God. I believe that the application of the bible into ones life will lead him to a better life, but the belief of Jesus will save him no matter what. Translations through ages have lost much of the intent of some passages. You are right. I mean I could also be seen as using the bible to benefit me and what I want. The way I know that this is not the case is because I met Jesus. Or he found me! smile... All I can do, is live my life to be a true reflection of him and how i see it to be. By loving, commiting, nuturing, praying I believe that through this God doesnt see me as a homosexual, but as a person who wants to be with him. The word for God forgetting is called forgiving. When he forgives, he forgets. I pray for forgivness not of my love, but of the person I was before he came in my life. I agree with you. Whose truth is it really? |
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10 | Disease or Bad Personal Choice?? | Bible general Archive 1 | angellightboy | 86923 | ||
Gottcha...God is to be contained to the bible. Now I understand. Ok, I will go with that. God cannot touch our lives personally and show us him. Lord forgive women who have PMS, hate to read the part about that! smile But back on track. What is written is written. Here is something interesting about love and God, oh I forgot they ARE the SAME! 1 John 4:15-16 As far as interpreting Gods word for the times at hand...Luke 12:54-59 And it would almost sound not only as if you are questioning my love (which again is God) but the entire gay communities....Matthew 7:1-2 Also funny it is that the vows used today (through sickness and in health...) were actually shared between two woman. Ruth and Naomi I believe. Lastly Jesus promise to me: John 5:24 |
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11 | Disease or Bad Personal Choice?? | Bible general Archive 1 | angellightboy | 86911 | ||
above all one commandment is to be kept. Love. This was said by Jesus in the New Testament...wouldnt Jesus know best? Especially if that was such an evil sin...he never mentioned it once! | ||||||
12 | Disease or Bad Personal Choice?? | Bible general Archive 1 | angellightboy | 86904 | ||
Well to answer the first question, I believe Christians should follow Christ. I believe the bible contains wisdom, truth, poetry, songs, parables and in essence a collection of most things God wants to communicate with us through it. The other part God touches our heart with the Holy Spirit to know truth, to know love. Love is always of God, sorry if you dont believe that. Lust is not of God. True love is a gift. Why do you sound so condemming of it? I also believe the New Testement formed a new covenant with God. All that happened before is now replaced. How? With Christs unconditional love. Mabye the issue isnt homosexuality here, mabye for you it is only a question of love. Gods love be upon you. | ||||||
13 | Homosexuality: Is Bible Too Harsh? | 1 Cor 6:9 | angellightboy | 86890 | ||
Say keep reading 1 Cor 6:9, 10 AND 11. This says that because we were washed and sanctified in Christ Jesus name, that we were justified before God. I interpret this to mean that God outlawed this scene. The gay scene is heavily on promiscuos sex. But through Christ Jesus, we are allowed to love another of the same sex. That is love, not lust, in the passion of God. I believe God is love and love, being committed and focused, is not to be condemmed. I still however am trying to figure out what the word "inherit" means in this passage. That it wasnt just bestowed upon us, that we must go through the process to sanctify our selves in Jesus. | ||||||