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1 | Where or where is CDBJ? | Bible general Archive 3 | Psalm 25 | 188680 | ||
Cheri, God Bless, thank you........ InGodITrust |
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2 | Can you lose your salvation? | Eph 1:13 | Psalm 25 | 187979 | ||
Lookin, This says it all, by your own words: No formal Bible training...pretty much studied the Bible on my own. I am not a member of any church or denomination at this time. |
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3 | 3 night 3 days in tomb | Matthew | Psalm 25 | 187886 | ||
chach, You are very welcome. I might encourage you to listen very carefully to your Jewish sources that are, of course, Messianic Jewish believers. I have found that they have an insight into much of what the gentiles continue to distort. The Jewish people are far more conservative and take great pains to be accurate and authinic. God Bless as you continue to grow; And, whatever you do don't be narrow minded but search out all things and above all "ask the Holy Spirit to guide you." In His Name, Psalm 25 |
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4 | Can you lose your salvation? | Eph 1:13 | Psalm 25 | 187856 | ||
Here's some additional info. A conversation between two pastors: Matt: Can we lose our salvation? Sam: I believe we can Matt: What must you do to keep it then? Sam: Believe. Matt: Phil. 1:29 says that God grants that we believe. John 1:12 we are born again NOT of our own wills. John 6:28-29 our believing is God's work. So... it is up to God then, it would seem. Sam: That is true and Hebrews say that if we willing sin after knowing the truth we no longer have an intercessor in heaven Matt: Have you ever sinned willfully after being a Christian? Sam: I am not speaking of one sin, I am speaking of turning away from God. Matt: That isn't what Heb. 10:26 says. But, if you can lose your salvation, then what do you do with John 10:28 where Jesus says he gives eternal life and the sheep will NEVER perish? And also 1 John 2:19, "They went out from us, but they were not really of us; for if they had been of us, they would have remained with us; but they went out, in order that it might be shown that they all are not of us." You are teaching that we keep our salvation by works. Sam: What about those who endure to the end will be saved Matt: That is Matt. 24:13. That is speaking of the end times tribulation era... not of justification. If you can lose your salvation, then what do you do with John 10:28 where Jesus says He gives eternal life and the sheep will NEVER perish? If you can lose it then Jesus should have said, "and they may perish..." or "they CAN perish." But he said, THEY WILL NEVER PERISH. So, will they never perish? Or can they? Sam: Believing is a present tense word and you must believe till the end Matt: Yes. But can you answer the questions above? Sam: And belief requires a response Matt: Can you answer the question regarding John 10:28? Sam: I believe we are God's sheep if we follow him. Matt: Wrong. We follow him BECAUSE we are His sheep. You have it wrong. This is a common error in Christianity in America. It amounts to salvation by works. Sam: He says his sheep know his voice and follow Matt: Yes...and they will NEVER PERISH, right? Sam: There are 2 schools of thought on this subject and I am not Calvinistic. But I do not want to argue about it Matt: You don't have to be calvinistic. Jesus said they will never perish. 1 John 2:19 says, "They went out from us, but they were not really of us; for if they had been of us, they would have remained with us; but they went out, in order that it might be shown that they all are not of us." If someone leaves the faith it is because they never were saved. We endure because we ARE saved...we don't become or stay saved by our works. Sam: So you are saying that if someone accepts Jesus as his savior and feels the need to repent and follows Jesus for many years and then for some reason he turns a walks in darkness that in the end he is still forgiven. Matt: I didn't say that. The Bible says in 1 John 2:19, "They went out from us, but they were not really of us; for if they had been of us, they would have remained with us; but they went out, in order that it might be shown that they all are not of us." Sam: You are saying it is impossible for a true christen to turn Matt: To turn??? Not sure what you mean. Sam: Away form God, to reject him Matt: No, a true Christian cannot. Here is why. 2 Cor. 5:17, "Therefore if any man is in Christ, he is a new creature; the old things passed away; behold, new things have come." Sam: I am saying that when we believe that we are justified and from that point on we walk with Jesus in belief and we walk each day we pick up our cross and continue walking with him If we stop walking and turn from God and no longer trust in him as our savior then we will not enter heaven. Matt: Right... because...1 John 2:19, "They went out from us, but they were not really of us; for if they had been of us, they would have remained with us; but they went out, in order that it might be shown that they all are not of us." THEY WOULD HAVE REMAINED if they were really Christians to begin with. Matt: Now a question for you. Are you saying that the Spirit begins the work of salvation in us and that we work it out and complete it by remaining faithful? That IS what you are saying, that we get saved and keep it by the effort of our works, right? Check this out. Gal. 3:1-3, "You foolish Galatians, who has bewitched you, before whose eyes Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified? 2 This is the only thing I want to find out from you: did you receive the Spirit by the works of the Law, or by hearing with faith? 3 Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh?" Sam: I would say that there are very few people who ever have lived that can say they did Matt: You still have not answered John 10:28. Sam: Your teaching is a new teaching Matt: No. Jesus taught it. He said those with eternal life will NEVER PERISH. |
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5 | Can you lose your salvation? | Eph 1:13 | Psalm 25 | 187853 | ||
Lookin, I respectfully "give up." It is obvious that you have your mind made up as I, and numerous others, have given you proof text after proof text that you continue to argue about. The free will mentality is a "Johnny come lately." Historical Christianity considered it "a herisy." A look back in history, the first three centeries where they were closest to the teachings of the apostles original teachings, declare free will and the lose of eternal security a heresy and extremely false doctrine. So, my friend, I leave you in God's hand and hopefully you won't "jerk yourself out of His almighty, sovereign, purposeful will." It is the ultimate shame on us carnal, sinful human beings that think we can thwart God's purposes and presupose that our will and failures can render what God has done "ineffective." Psalm 25 |
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6 | Can you lose your salvation? | Eph 1:13 | Psalm 25 | 187848 | ||
Lookin, You have some good points; but: We must allow all of the scriptures to balance out each other. Anyone, you and I included, must not take isolated verses and interpret them by themselves. The other very significant issues is; do not rely on the English to correctly interpret what was written in the Greek. As we all know the Greek is very precise as our English is anything but. In order to have a clear understanding of what Ephesians 1:13 is saying we must take it in context with all of Ephesians chapter one. If God chose us before the foundation of the world and the Holy Spirit sealed us in Him in the past tense, then this was done by God's choice not ours. No matter how you look at "whom God choose and why," the scriptures are clear that it was done "and sealed," in our case, thousands of years before we were ever born. Of course the effect of being sealed was fully accomplished "after we were saved." God, knowing who will be (or would be depending on your interpretation) sealed those who will be saved thus securing their salvation. The whole point of how this discussion began was "the security of salvation," and if it can be lost by a born again believer. As I stated in my last response the Bible is very clear that "what God seals" can not be "unsealed." What God does no man can undo. And, the other side of that coin would be that if it were possible to loose what God had done then no one could get "re-saved" as the scriptures show it to be "a one time action in the past." Looking at what Romans chapters 1,2, and 3 shows that no man has ever sought God on his own; "no not one, not even one." Stop to think about it; it's much harder to stay saved in a totally hostile world than to get saved. We are not Satan's enemy til after we're saved. Would God then, after securing our salvation, leave it up to us to stay saved? If getting saved is a gift from God, would God then leave His sheep among wolves and expect us to "hang in there?" Would we as humans recruit and train a soldier then send him out to battle "all on his own?" God who sent His only begotten who suffered and died for us, has a specific plan for our life and eternity then "leave us to fend for ourselves?" I know of no mortal man who would do that to another man. No human General would ever send a soldier out in enemy territory and say "good luck hope you make it." Let alone God who sacrificed His only Son for us. The very idea that God went to all that trouble to save us would then expect us to stay saved. If we have not the ability to get saved, not even remotely, how would God then expect us to "stay saved." God who loved us and gave His all is now going to expect us to "not lose what He Himself gave us and paid the ultimate price for?" Something to think about........ Personally, I think the teaching that one can loose what God has done is the ultimate insult to a God who has clearly shown us our depravity and our total ineptness to accomplish anything. Hope this helps, my friend. Psalm 25 |
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7 | Can you lose your salvation? | Eph 1:13 | Psalm 25 | 187815 | ||
Lookin, The verse I quoted,"sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promice," is a one time action in the Greek, it is past tense, "aorist indicative passive," which is a confirmation of Ephesians 1:4 "just as He choose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before Him in love." Since we were chosen in Him before the foundation of the world, we were also "sealed in Christ" with the Holy Spirit of promice. A one time action, in the past, before the foundation of the world. What "God Himself seals" can not be undone. Any study done on "what God seals" would confirm that nothing but nothing can "undo it." Therefore, this is one of the strongest verses in the Bible on eternal security for those who have been saved by and through God. If anyone can Biblically refute what this verse says, I sure don't know how. Respectfully in Him Psalm 25 |
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8 | What qualifies a cultist? | Is 43:7 | Psalm 25 | 187649 | ||
I made a huge mistake........ Please forgive me: "To error is human, to forgive is devine." I just realized that my problem is not with Dr. Walter Martin but is with Hank Hanegraaff. My sincerest apologies to one and all especially the Martin family. Since Dr. Martin died in 1989 he was not and is not responsible for the many assaults on other Christian ministries. Hank Hanegraaff is the one I should have addressed as the problem. I am sincerely sorry for all that was addressed to Dr. Walter Martin. Psalm 25 |
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9 | What qualifies a cultist? | Is 43:7 | Psalm 25 | 187645 | ||
And may I further add: Controversies After the death of Dr. Walter Martin (June 26, 1989), Hank Hanegraaff became president of the Christian Research Institute. Many feel Mr. Hanegraaff was (and is) not the right man for the job. One claim is that he runs the organization more like a business venture than a Christian ministry. Another is that Hanegraaff Others cite ethical issues. Under Hanegraaff's leadership, the staff of the Christian Research Institute was decimated. Over 100 workers left or were fired - among them many established, respected researchers, apologists and cult experts, including Paul Carden, Rich Poll, Craig Hawkins, and Ron Rhodes. Not every one who left did so because of disagreement or other conflict. However, in 1994, some 35 ex-CRI employees formed the Group for CRI Accountability. Citing Hanegraaff's lack of theological training, poor interpersonal relationship skills, questions regarding his business dealings, and a number of ethical issues, they demanded his resignation. Addressing The Problem In 1997, Christianity Today published an article titled, "When Christians Fight Christians" (Part 2) A case study mentioned in the item is widely recognized as referring to the situation that, over the years, developed at CRI. Tim Stafford's article offers sound suggestions on how to deal with these type of situations. While Christian organizations answer to a higher calling than their secular counterparts, they have this in common with the latter: imperfect people, who'll make mistakes that need to be corrected. Yet to-date these controversies remain unresolved. The publishers of Apologetics Index believe the controversies are best handled by those directly involved and affected - with the help of impartial Christians who are recognized to be in a position to request and receive accountability from all parties concerned. Professional Christian meditation is offered by, for example, such organizations as EMNR and the Christian Legal Society That said, over the years a number of interested parties have tried different approaches to try and hold the Christian Research Institute - and in particular its current president, Hank Hanegraaff - accountable. These approaches have included the formation of the Group for CRI Accountability, some legal wranglings, and private peacemaking attempts by individuals. They have ranged from the mature, Biblical approach taken by Walter Martin's family, to the publication of error-filled hit-pieces by anonymous critics. Sadly, thus far all attempts to arrive at a private solution appear to have failed. This is one reason why many of the issues have become public knowledge Hope this adds some light. Psalm 25 |
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10 | What qualifies a cultist? | Is 43:7 | Psalm 25 | 187643 | ||
Goodmorning Doc, Looks like I struck a nerve? I sense that my comments regarding Dr. Walter Martin, though he has departed to his eternal reward in 1989, seems offensive and "unfair or untrue." As I said he has been very helpful to the Christian community for many years. I honestly think he long ago over-stepped his bonds. Dr. Martin started off warning Christians about "true cults and false religions." Then, over time, he began taking it upon himself to critisize many other ministries and that has grown significantly. I have for years listened to many of his programs and read his articles. I have been around Christendom for 59 years. Dr. Marin and his current organization have taken it upon themselves to be critical of many who are "well inside the bounds of being, mostlikely, fundamental Christians." While you and I may have difficulty agree with many of their positions, what gives anyone the right to "publically" critisize the minor issues we disagree with? I guarentee you, CRI could have numerous faults with Billy Graham as he has always been in the "free-will camp." Who amoung us would remotely draw attention to what we disagree with in light of the tremendous ministry Dr. Graham has had. Have you taken a long hard look at Dr. Martin's web site? Now they are critisizing Rick Warren and Saddle Back Church. Who gave them this right? God certainly did not. These, at best, are minor issues; who appointed them as God's agents over minor issues? And we wonder why Christianity is so divided today and the unbelieving world sees us as "constantly taking pot shots at each other." Yes, my friend, arrogant and self-righteous is exactly where CRI has come to. So is anyone else who takes it upon themselves to "publically" critisize ministries that "over all" have been a positive influence on Christianity and the lost. Please, Doc, explain to me how Witness Lee or Watchman Nee, whom CRI has critisized both, qualify as cultist or cult leaders? And do you personally know "all the facts" as to be well informed enough to challenge what I have said? Before you reply you may want to visit CRI's web site as they probibly are attacking someone you may know who is "main stream" but not necessarily "perfect" according to the criteria of CRI. "Judge not, lest you too be judge." (I address this verse to CRI) Thank you, Psalm 25 |
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11 | What qualifies a cultist? | Is 43:7 | Psalm 25 | 187619 | ||
Thanks John, So then, do you label Watchman Nee as a cult leader or cultist? All I know is his unorthodoxed explaination of the trinity. While I am not really sure what Nee means, how does this label him cultist? Curiously, Psalm 25 |
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12 | What qualifies a cultist? | Is 43:7 | Psalm 25 | 187618 | ||
Doc, Well, by the very definition that you quoted from Dr. Martin. I still do not see how Watchman Nee,whom I'm sure I disagee with, has meet the qualifications. Unless there is more I don't know about what Nee said, I see absolutely no effect on anyones salvation or the security thereof. Nor do I see how this would effect a believer's everyday walk with God? If anything, I think the right label would be "heretic." I believe Dr. Martin has helped the Christinan community enormously but he also was pretty darn arrogant and self righteous in many of his summations. It is one thing to draw attention to serious errors that plague Christianity but he tended to "attack some" (certainly not all). I have read and agreed with him time after time but to label Watchman Nee as a cultist (based on what I know so far) is going way over the line. Perhaps "a very serious error indeed," (the jury is still out as I do not know the full implication of what Nee is saying) but to label him cultist? Please help as I do not see it. Help........ Psalm 25 |
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13 | What qualifies a cultist? | Is 43:7 | Psalm 25 | 187615 | ||
Jeff, I am not trying to "split hairs." I am extremely upset/concerned about doctrinal errors that are growing by leaps and bounds. What I was addressing, in all respect, was that Watchman Nee was labeled a cultist. While not defending him whatever my understanding of "cultist" is anyone who leads others away from salvation and/or leads them "to paths of destruction" and into the arms of Satan which will result in them going to hell. I do not see how Watchman Nee is saying anything that would qualify him as a cult leader or a cultist. I am as dedicated and as sincere in promoting truth and exposing error as any one I know. I am just concerned when we put "labels" on someone whom we may have a disagreement with even if that disagreement is a large one. Your thoughts? Psalm 25 |
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14 | What Bible says about fear/knowledge | 1 John 4:18 | Psalm 25 | 187588 | ||
hilary234, There are many fears in this life. Basically, in my opinion (as I too have had to face fears of numerous variety), we all have two fears. Fear of (perhaps) failing God somehow, and fear about circumstances and how it they will affect our future. Can you be more specific? Psalm 25 |
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15 | What Bible says about fear/knowledge | 1 John 4:18 | Psalm 25 | 187587 | ||
hilary234, There are many fears in this life. Basically, in my opinion (as I too have had to face fears of numerous variety), we all have two fears. Fear of (perhaps) failing God somehow, and fear about circumstances and how it they will affect our future. Can you be more specific? Psalm 25 |
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16 | Who and why..... must be a reason? | Is 43:7 | Psalm 25 | 187427 | ||
Thank you for your response. My only intention was to understand God more, in keeping with His honor and glory. After all, the only foolish question is one you don't ask. I realize this is a "dangerous area" but one I hoped godly men may have pondered in their hearts. My goal is to know Him more and not to "question Him." Again thanks to you and all. God Bless, Psalm 25 |
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17 | gifts of Healing and Miracles for today. | 1 Cor 12:9 | Psalm 25 | 187207 | ||
Dear Royal, Matthew 7:15-23 clearly address these (not all)miracle workers. They are so far out on a limb as to their ridiculous behavior and teachings, be it absolute prosperity, 100 percent healing for all, and so on and so on. Honestly, look at "exactly how" Jesus describes them: "Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform "many" miracles" And then I will say to them, 'I NEVER knew you, depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness." Why are so many so easily fooled today, "we have every wind of doctrine floating around out there just like Jesus said we would. Discern the spirits as there are far more "false ones" these days than true ones. Hope to speak truth, Psalm 25 |
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18 | should all we be speaking tongues aloud | 1 Cor 14:23 | Psalm 25 | 187204 | ||
Hello Tim, In the New Testament when you see the word "tongues" in the Greek it is "glossa." (Strongs #1100)Which means "a known earthly language." A language in existance such as French, German, Latin, Spanish, and so on. Such a language can be authinicated. Today, charismatics and penecostals, for the vast majority, speak in an ecstatic language. Some claim to speak "the tongues of angels" as 1 Corinthians 13:1 but every instance in the entire Bible whenever an angel spoke it was "always" in that person's language. Angels do not have their own language as they are spirit. Studies have been done, tongue speakers have been recorded,(I don't mean any disrespect)and there is no "phonetic evidence" that any of these have the necessary constuction (s) to be any kind of language. When you compare all the languages of the world, they all have structure and the necessary "phonetics" that are required to qualify as a language. I have earnestly and sincerely studied this for years. I truly love the pentecostal people as I currently attend one of their churches. Not because I agree with all they do but because they are godly, loving people. As are many charismatic folks. Simply put, speaking in tongues is Biblical if done Biblically. God Bless, Psalm 25 |
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19 | Christians? | Matt 7:21 | Psalm 25 | 187078 | ||
Check out the context of Matthew 7. It is referring to false prophets and teachers. Those that lead others into false doctrine etc. Does this help? In Him, Psalm 25 |
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20 | john 8 when he bent down and wrote with | John 8:8 | Psalm 25 | 187013 | ||
There is no answer, only speculation. Many think Jesus may have wrote a scriptural reference to "judge not lest you too be judged." Reason? Jesus had just replied, "He who is without sin cast the first stone." Actually, Jesus could have "just be dottling." Here's some furture insight: Jesus Forgives a Woman Taken in Adultery This story, beloved for its revelation of God's mercy toward sinners, is found only in John. It was almost certainly not part of John's original Gospel. The NIV separates this passage off from the rest of the Gospel with the note, "The earliest and most reliable manuscripts and other ancient witnesses do not have John 7:53--8:11." That is, the earliest Greek manuscripts, the earliest translations and the earliest church fathers all lack reference to this story. Furthermore, some manuscripts place it at other points within John (after 7:36, 7:44 or 21:25), others include it in the Gospel of Luke (placing it after Luke 21:38), and many manuscripts have marks that indicate the scribes "were aware that it lacked satisfactory credentials" (Metzger 1994:189). Furthermore, it contains many expressions that are more like those in the Synoptic Gospels than those in John. It appears to have been a well-known story, one of many that circulated orally from the beginning yet that none of the Gospel writers were led to include. But some in the later church thought this one was too good to leave out. The controversy with the teachers of the law and the Pharisees (v. 3) is similar to stories found in the Synoptics, as is the theme of God's mercy mediated by Jesus. |
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