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1 | The culture war | Luke 17:3 | Pete2 | 121062 | ||
The "Culture War" is used in todays political seen. There are 2 forces that are referred to. 1. The moral-christian force and the moral altering, anti christian force. There is an enormous force going on to remove morality as we know it. Unfortunately, those who are doing it, invent morality as they go. They go by what feels right. Anything thing they can rationalize is ok. In other words, they want the limits on behavior. That is what morality is... limits on behavior. All people are born uncivilized. It is up to their parents to civilize them. That process is teaching and accepting morality. As soon as that is accomplished, they are civilized. This process allows people to co-exist because they are operating by the same rules. If this morality is removed, the civilization is destroyed. It slips into anarchy. This happens often in uncivilized, third world contries. It has not happened here till now because this country used to have a strong moral backbone. They do no longer. The moral of this country now is asleep at the wheel. They feel that the country will do just fine. Rowe vs Wade, where abortion was made legal by the Supreme Court 40 years ago is proof that anything can be accomplished the "counter force". I know of no religion that is "pro choice". Even though the Catholic Church is staunchly against any for of abortion, the have known members like Ted Kinnedy, Tom Harkin and John Carrey who have all voted for third trimester abortion which is where the baby is capable of life without the mothers assistance. This is merely an example. That is all it is. Given time, I could mention a thousand other examples. In schools, any anti-christian group is allowed although no christian groups are. In schools, the teachers and administration are so confused on right and wrong, that the little thug kids are running the school. The schools are powerless. Now a days, it is common to have policemen in schools. 40 years ago, I did not know of a school in the nation that had a policemen in the school. Police keep wrong doers at bay. Ironically, in order to do that, they have to determine right from wrong. Since our culture has lost its standard, that is "fuzzy". As each generation gets more and more confused about right and wrong, BIG problems will occur like Columbine (sp), the school where the kids went in shooting. Those kids thought that what they were doing was okay. If they did not think it was ok, they would not have done it. Trust me, they had it rationalized. My guess that they had parents that did not want to "impose" their morality. Their morality was probably flawed anyway. Ted Kinnedy uses the word morality in every single speech, but he never sites his source. The Catholic Church, if they had any conviction at all, would have ex-communicated him long ago for immorality. Not a single occurance, not a hand full, but an ongoing quest to destroy morality as we know it. This is the culture war Pete2 |
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2 | The culture war | Luke 17:3 | Pete2 | 121006 | ||
I appreciate your invitation, but I will respectfully refuse. And please don't be offended by that, but I feel fine where I am at. Turning the other cheek? No, I do not believe it works. Has it ever worked? Probably, but not usually. I was always the smallest kid in the class growing up. Being nice to bullies was tried 100 times and failed every single time. You know what worked? I smacked a few back. That works every time. An evil aggressor will not head to strength, they head to weakness. They show amazing cowardess around strength. In the Culture War, there are people that care about their reputation, cooperating with evil ideas.... We are looseing the culture war because we are a no show in most cases. Pete2 |
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3 | The culture war | Luke 17:3 | Pete2 | 120967 | ||
I was raised as a Christian. When I did extensive fasting, I was seeking truth. In order to do that, I had to discard all and start over. Everyone on this site would find this statement as untrue but me and that is... I do not see God as the only logical conclusion. In fact, I see no logical conclusion.. but I do see the morality in the bible as haveing a proven track record and I can also see why others fail... Having said that, I also see weaknesses in the bible, but most of them have to do with erroring on the side of passiveness. It seems that CHristians are looseing most of the battles in the Culture War... So much so, I do not believe that getting back what was once had, is no longer achievable. Having said that, I also believe that the more battles they loose, the stronger their conviction. Having said that, looking at the bible, I do not see what weapons they have for the Culture War. Treating people nice does not create nice people, it just makes happy "evil" people. |
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4 | Why? | Luke 17:3 | Pete2 | 120953 | ||
I will have to look back. I dont think I said condone. What I did not hear was "condemn" that action... And trust me, I would not have said it either. Many of them are "nuts". They recognize that also, that is why they did not condemn. I could respect their religion if they would make positive public statments, but I do not hear them on radio, even though I have listened to them for hours. I have also listened to their oposition. I know a minister/priest that was fired from a college for quoting directly out of the koran. They felt it was devisive. |
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5 | Why? | Luke 17:3 | Pete2 | 120951 | ||
I truly appreciate your imput. I do not pretend to be a Moslem scollar. But I do know enough about the religion to know that they do not seek harmonious co-existance. I do not watch TV... ever. I haven't had it on in 6 months. It is unneeded. I listen to radio all day every day. I stand corrected if there were apologists that I missed. But if they would have mad it to radio, I would have heard them. On TV, I felt that I was in constant endoctrination. Even on the news channels. |
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6 | Why? | Luke 17:3 | Pete2 | 120939 | ||
I am not being unfair. In the city where I live, there are moslem groups. They have spokesman. They were silent after 9-11. Why? They could have said, "We condemn their actions". They didn't. That is a fact. More facts? I do not know of a Moslem group or even a single individual speak out against what was done. Even Louis Fericon (sp) doesn't. I am sorry I am saying negative things. Most of you folks are pleasantly positive. I appreciate you wanting to stay with scripture. But that is impossible without application. In this country, we have made it possible for people to co-exist. Although, the government will give a stage for anti-christian and not christian. It has moved that far. I have been trying to understand the apathy and I think I do now. On the Moslem faith, I did not say anything that was far off the mark. I am not going out on the web to back any of it. That is past my mission. Also, the truth is learned by starting with less perhaps. I never silence people when they try. I have |
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7 | They lack Apathy | Luke 17:3 | Pete2 | 120929 | ||
No, no, I was not saying that the moslem religion is without morals. I don't think I said anything close to that. I said that their moral, that is the thread for their culture, doesn't work. The evidence for that? look at them now and where they came from. It is true that they have much more conviction than we do. Yet, unlimited conviction is not a virtue. I have never seen forgiveness mentioned in the same sentence with Moslem, thus explaining inherant disharmony. | ||||||
8 | Cristians are a no show in Culture War | Luke 17:3 | Pete2 | 120854 | ||
The Culture war is basically good against evil. Like a line in the sand, good on one side and evil on the other, that line get moved every day. Unfortunately, good has lost most battles. There are so many misguided people now that they dont have a clue who to follow. | ||||||