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1 | What is the Holy Ghost? | NT general Archive 1 | Leox | 106679 | ||
Hi, Tim! The wise one discerns his or her truth and accepts it...and comes to accept others viewpoints. For in learning of the other ways of seeing and believing one comes to strengthen one's own beliefs and accept the others as that person's truth. It's an individual quest. Debating and defending our beliefs is fine but religous intolerance or putting it more mildly 'judgment' on another path or belief is simply wrong. |
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2 | What is the Holy Ghost? | NT general Archive 1 | Leox | 106612 | ||
Hello Tim, You’re assuming that I’m a JW… I’m not and I also have never read the NWT version. I can see how you came to that assumption, but I don’t agree with the majority of their doctrines. What I do believe, probably as strongly as you believe in the trinity, is this. Both God and Logos (Word) who became Christ existed before the universe was created. That the Holy Spirit emanates from God the Father by which He is omnipresent and omniscient. For myself there is only one God, not three in one. My studies now are on Logos being the first created being by God. This is a new but scripturally supported truth that I am currently embracing. However, I am very appreciative of your edification on Greek. I will study your last response. Thank you. |
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3 | What is the Holy Ghost? | NT general Archive 1 | Leox | 106607 | ||
Hi Tim, Well for starters, let's take John1:1. This is a Trinitarian's favorite place to run when trying to defend the Trinity. First of all, when one reads the entire chapter where a Trinitarian directs you, you may get a completely different picture. Read John 1:18 which says "No man has seen God at any time". Next, if you look at John 1:14, it says "So the Word became flesh and resided among us". Men had the chance to see the Word (Christ) in person. Yet the Bible states that "No man has seen God at any time". If Christ is God, then John chapter 1 is contradicting itself. John 1:1 is a classic case of the Bible translator allowing his/her doctrinal bias to dictate how they render certain words in English. The Greek word being used for God here is Theos. Yet the plural form of this word is translated "gods" by most Bible translators in John 10:35. Why do Bible translators render Theos as God in some places and "god" in other places? Please bear in mind that in Greek (or more specifically Koine Greek), there is no indefinite article. By indefinite article, I mean the word "a" or "an" in English. The indefinite article is understood based on context. In John 1:1 where we read "and the Word was with God", the Greek words ho Theos are used to represent God. The next set of words read "and the Word God". Here the Greek word Theos stands by itself without the definite article ho. Think of it another way. If someone were to say to you that "The Man" wants to see you. You would think to yourself that someone really important needs to speak to you. However, if they stated that "a man" wants to see you. You wouldn't automatically assume that it was someone important. Likewise, when the words ho Theos are used in the NT, we are speaking of Almighty God. When Theos appears by itself, it more than likely is referring to simply any deity. Many Bible translators have chosen to render John 1:1 according to their religious beliefs rather than translating what they see in the ancient manuscripts. A number of other Bible translators have chosen to render these words more accurately. Some translations for example, render the latter part of John 1:1 as "and the Word was Divine". So to say that Jesus is Divine is to put him on a level that is higher than the angels. However, that doesn't necessarily mean that he is God. |
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4 | Only ONE God | Mark 12:32 | Leox | 105712 | ||
Factions Fractions: The Mathematics of the Ontology (Being) of God by Jonathan Sjordal Given to all of us by our Creator is a deep desire to know Him, and understand who He is. There can be no greater subject of study than the ontology of God … who God is. At the heart of every religion and every form of worship is the need of the worshippers to know the nature of the one they worship. Within the Christian factions, nearly all profess the belief in some manner of monotheism. This is understandable because the Bible says plainly in many places that there is one God: “Hear, O Israel: hwhy (Yahweh, God’s personal name, some 7,000 times) our God is one hwhy” (Deut. 6:4). “I am hwhy: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images” (Isa. 42:8). “Have we not all one Father? Has not one God [Elohim[1]] created us?” (Mal. 2:10). “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Messiah Jesus” (I Tim. 2:5). “You believe that there is one God; you do well: the demons also believe, and tremble” (James 2:19). “And the scribe said to him, ‘Right, Master, you have spoken the truth: for there is one God; and there is no other except He’” (Mark 12:32). “Now therefore, hwhy our God, I beseech You, save us out of his hand, that all the kingdoms of the earth may know that You are hwhy God, You only” (II Kings 19:19). “Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honor and glory forever and ever. Amen” (I Tim. 1:17). “And this is life eternal, that they might know You, the only true God, and Jesus the Messiah, whom You have sent” (John 17:3). Once we see the scriptural evidence it becomes clear that the Bible is thoroughly monotheistic. The definition of polytheism is belief in or worship of more than one god. To evade the charge of polytheism, those who explain that God is two or three must shoehorn multiple entities into one. Factional wrangling over ontology has devolved into mathematical absurdity for one simple reason: trying to avoid the appearance of polytheism. Monotheism, the belief in one God, is unity. Splitting the unity of God into two or three or more parts necessitates doing violence to both mathematics and language. The result is confusion. Doctrinal differences over the nature of God resulted in several factions that are at variance with one another. The major polytheistic faction in Christianity is called the Trinity. The doctrine of the TRInity is that we have a Triune God, that is, God is in three Persons, together making up one God. We read this in the famous creedal statements from history: It has been said: “To deny the Trinity is to lose one’s soul. To understand the Trinity is to lose one’s mind.” It is easy to understand the latter half of that statement by simply reading the Athanasian Creed and other such Trinitarian explanations. Witness the impossibility of the statement “Thus the Father is God, the Son is God, the Holy Spirit is God. Yet there are not three gods; there is but one God.” Trinitarian scholars would have you believe that three make one: 1 plus 1 plus 1 equals 1 But mathematics comes to our rescue, reminding us that: 3 is not equal to 1 and 1 is not equal to 3 In fact, the correct mathematical representation is: 1/3 plus 1/3 plus 1/3 equals 1 This suggests that each member of the TRInitarian Godhead is not God in his own right, but rather only a fraction of God … an odious conclusion to the Trinitarians, but inescapable. The concept of a Triune God suggests that God is one, but has multiple personalities; a sort of divine schizophrenia. This idea is biblically indefensible. The Bible consistently and vehemently condemns polytheism. One must search outside of the Bible to locate a threefold God. Leo |
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5 | Are we supposed to observe the Sabbath? | Bible general Archive 2 | Leox | 105711 | ||
OOOPS! Sorry wrong place to post this. Leo |
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6 | Are we supposed to observe the Sabbath? | Bible general Archive 2 | Leox | 105710 | ||
Factions Fractions: The Mathematics of the Ontology (Being) of God by Jonathan Sjordal Given to all of us by our Creator is a deep desire to know Him, and understand who He is. There can be no greater subject of study than the ontology of God … who God is. At the heart of every religion and every form of worship is the need of the worshippers to know the nature of the one they worship. Within the Christian factions, nearly all profess the belief in some manner of monotheism. This is understandable because the Bible says plainly in many places that there is one God: “Hear, O Israel: hwhy (Yahweh, God’s personal name, some 7,000 times) our God is one hwhy” (Deut. 6:4). “I am hwhy: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images” (Isa. 42:8). “Have we not all one Father? Has not one God [Elohim[1]] created us?” (Mal. 2:10). “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Messiah Jesus” (I Tim. 2:5). “You believe that there is one God; you do well: the demons also believe, and tremble” (James 2:19). “And the scribe said to him, ‘Right, Master, you have spoken the truth: for there is one God; and there is no other except He’” (Mark 12:32). “Now therefore, hwhy our God, I beseech You, save us out of his hand, that all the kingdoms of the earth may know that You are hwhy God, You only” (II Kings 19:19). “Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honor and glory forever and ever. Amen” (I Tim. 1:17). “And this is life eternal, that they might know You, the only true God, and Jesus the Messiah, whom You have sent” (John 17:3). Once we see the scriptural evidence it becomes clear that the Bible is thoroughly monotheistic. The definition of polytheism is belief in or worship of more than one god. To evade the charge of polytheism, those who explain that God is two or three must shoehorn multiple entities into one. Factional wrangling over ontology has devolved into mathematical absurdity for one simple reason: trying to avoid the appearance of polytheism. Monotheism, the belief in one God, is unity. Splitting the unity of God into two or three or more parts necessitates doing violence to both mathematics and language. The result is confusion. Doctrinal differences over the nature of God resulted in several factions that are at variance with one another. The major polytheistic faction in Christianity is called the Trinity. The doctrine of the TRInity is that we have a Triune God, that is, God is in three Persons, together making up one God. We read this in the famous creedal statements from history: It has been said: “To deny the Trinity is to lose one’s soul. To understand the Trinity is to lose one’s mind.” It is easy to understand the latter half of that statement by simply reading the Athanasian Creed and other such Trinitarian explanations. Witness the impossibility of the statement “Thus the Father is God, the Son is God, the Holy Spirit is God. Yet there are not three gods; there is but one God.” Trinitarian scholars would have you believe that three make one: 1 plus 1 plus 1 equals 1 But mathematics comes to our rescue, reminding us that: 3 is not equal to 1 and 1 is not equal to 3 In fact, the correct mathematical representation is: 1/3 plus 1/3 plus 1/3 equals 1 This suggests that each member of the TRInitarian Godhead is not God in his own right, but rather only a fraction of God … an odious conclusion to the Trinitarians, but inescapable. The concept of a Triune God suggests that God is one, but has multiple personalities; a sort of divine schizophrenia. This idea is biblically indefensible. The Bible consistently and vehemently condemns polytheism. One must search outside of the Bible to locate a threefold God. Leo |
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7 | Jesus Created or Creator??? | Rev 3:14 | Leox | 104958 | ||
Hello Colin, No not a JW and never will be. I call it a position the same reason I would call your beliefs a position (opinion) on Jesus Christ. My beliefs may or may not reflect you're beliefs. Should I repent because I may not agree with you??... I think not. Am I saved? Only through the grace and mercy of God. Leo |
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8 | Jesus Created or Creator??? | Rev 3:14 | Leox | 104956 | ||
Hello Colin, No not a JW and never will be. I call it a position the same reason I would call your beliefs a position (ipinion) on Jesus Christ. My beliefs may or may not refelct you're beliefs. Should I repent because I may not agree with you??... I think not. Am I saved? Only through the grace and mercy of God. Leo |
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9 | Jesus Created or Creator??? | Rev 3:14 | Leox | 104903 | ||
I'm curious... what should "Truthfinder" repent of? Having a different opinion than you and others? Leo |
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10 | The First created Being? | Rev 3:14 | Leox | 104902 | ||
Hello Steve, After posting this question I found out it has already been discussed. I don't belong to any organization and I'm not looking to do so. However I have a stong belief in God and am trying to study and learn. I do believe that there is only one God. Monothestic. Reading from ASV, AV, Rothrham and others read as if indicating the Word was first created. Others read as you have indicated. The problem I'm having is what translation is correct, it seems you need to be fluent in Greek. And even then it can be debated on what the word actually translates to in english. God is not the author of confusion... but boy oh boy man sure is. Thanks for Replying, Leo |
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