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1 | INVITATION | NT general | Irish Eyes | 200049 | ||
I respectfully withdraw from further dialog on this matter. I thank you for taking the time and effort to discuss it with me. In Christ |
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2 | INVITATION | NT general | Irish Eyes | 200048 | ||
I respectfully withdraw from further dialog on this matter. I thank you for taking the time and effort to discuss them with me. In Him |
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3 | INVITATION | NT general | Irish Eyes | 200025 | ||
Very well. If my saying that this is what I would do is tantamount to giving advice then the conclusion I must arrive at is that I should never say what I would do or would not do on a public forum. I dislike debate and abhor conflict. I much prefer keeping my thoughts to myself or only sharing them with my husband. I reluctantly responded to Sandra's question for that very reason. Yes, you are misunderstanding me, Jeff. But you don't know me from Adam's off ox so I can certainly understand how you arrived at the conclusions you have. I would never condone dragging anyone into church. If GOD in HIS omiscience granted each of us our free volition to choose for or against HIM, then who am I, a mere human, to ever attempt to do otherwise? |
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4 | INVITATION | NT general | Irish Eyes | 200024 | ||
No, Steve. I am not putting matters of self above matters of God. Be careful lest you judge for you know me not. I am strictly speaking of biblical standards. There is nothing in the scriptures to indicate that members of the early church had to 'fill out an application' or 'have prior approval' or 'majority approval' or 'unanimous approval' or 'give a public testimony' as a condition to attending the church in worship and fellowship. I find this trend alarming and anti-scriptural. I have been asked to support this stance with scripture, but how can one provide scripture to substantiate something that was not addressed in the early church? No where does it say in the scriptures that applications shall not be required, or that approval must not be a requirement to attend. Can you read this example that I copied off the internet and honestly tell me that this is grounded in Scripture? "Realizing that the church covenant includes regular attendance at the three weekly services of the church, contributing weekly to the support of the church, etc., and that I will be disciplined according to Article VI of the constitution if I fail to keep any part of the covenant without a completely adequate and reasonable excuse I here sign that I agree to abide by the covenant of this church." As for privacy not being a Biblical standard, I disagree. Being a church member does not grant one carte blanche to stick one's nose into the business of others. Only GOD can be a critic of the thoughts and intents of the heart. |
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5 | INVITATION | NT general | Irish Eyes | 200006 | ||
Note - repost since I inadvertently directed this response to the wrong person. Point taken, Jeff. It was not something I wrote with a nonchalant or cavalier attitude. It was only after prayerful reflection and serious discussion with my husband that I even responded at all to Sandra's inquiry. My husband was even more adamant than I. I would not and did not presume to tell her what to do in this matter. I truthfully told her what I would do in this situation IF IT WERE ME. It is not only legalism in the truest sense, but it is also an invasion of privacy. No believer should ever have to 'prove' himself worthy to another human to obtain membership and/or fellowship. Should a member become disruptive or divisive within the local church, however, it is then the responsibility of the pastor/teacher of that local church to send the member out from among the congregation. |
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6 | INVITATION | NT general | Irish Eyes | 200005 | ||
Apologies for directing the response to you by mistake. You're correct. It is from the song that I chose my username. :-) In Christ |
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7 | dont buy dogs | Bible general Archive 4 | Irish Eyes | 200003 | ||
I believe this misconception was derived from Deuteronomy 23:18 "Thou shalt not bring the hire of a whore, or the price of a dog, into the house of the LORD thy God for any vow: for even both these [are] abomination unto the LORD thy God." | ||||||
8 | INVITATION | NT general | Irish Eyes | 200002 | ||
Point taken, Jeff. It was not something I wrote with a nonchalant or cavalier attitude. It was only after prayerful reflection and serious discussion with my husband that I even responded at all to Sandra's inquiry. My husband was even more adamant than I. I would not and did not presume to tell her what to do in this matter. I truthfully told her what I would do in this situation IF IT WERE ME. It is not only legalism in the truest sense, but it is also an invasion of privacy. No believer should ever have to 'prove' himself worthy to another human to obtain membership and/or fellowship. Should a member become disruptive or divisive within the local church, however, it is then the responsibility of the pastor/teacher of that local church to send the member out from among the congregation. | ||||||
9 | Must u b Christened to get to heaven | Acts 2:1 | Irish Eyes | 198634 | ||
Hi Doc, I suspect you may already know the answer to your questions, since the doctrine on the age of accountability is not directly written into the Scriptures. But I thank you for asking the question because it does encourage me to pray, reflect and study further. The age of accountability is a doctrine that has been hotly debated for quite some time, and probably will continue to be for quite some into the future. There are many doctrines that are addressed clearly and unquestionably, but the age of accountability is not one of them. Another issue of which there is no clearly defined doctrine is at what point does human life begin. But I digress. One compelling reason for the doctrine is the progression that condemnation must precede justification, and justification must precede sanctification. Yes, every human is born with the sin nature. Elohim is certainly aware of it, although we are not. I doubt that anyone could disagree on this point. Isaiah 7:16 even reads "For before the Child shall know to refuse the evil and choose the good...", indicating that at some point a child DOES reach a point where he or she reaches discernment between good and evil, or right and wrong. Does it come in a moment? I'm trying to recall my point of awareness and it eludes me. For me it was more of a gradual awareness in lieu of one defining moment. It must have occurred at a very young age. Can you recall when you reached your point of awareness? Responsibility, though... even when I became aware I still doubt that I felt the burden of responsibility. That came later. There is no certain age when one reaches a level of awareness for God, for it varies from person to person depending on intelligence, societal influence, and the presence (or lack thereof) of evangelism. Some never reach it, either due to an early death or due to severe mental impairment. I would be interested in reading your thoughts on this subject, Doc, if you care to share them with me. In Christ, Cheryl |
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10 | How? | Mark | Irish Eyes | 198318 | ||
Speaking of words, Doc, I do believe the term anthropopathism would actually fit 'grieving the Holy Spirit' better than the term anthropomorphism. I'd best get my isms sorted out. :) | ||||||
11 | How? | Mark | Irish Eyes | 198265 | ||
Thank you kindly, Doc. :-) Words are amazing, are they not? Without words there could be no thought, only instinct. In Him, Irish Eyes |
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12 | How? | Mark | Irish Eyes | 198261 | ||
Thank you for the elucidation, Doc. I am familiar with quite a number of theological terms, but will most indeed ask if I find myself in need of any explanations. :-) | ||||||
13 | How? | Mark | Irish Eyes | 198260 | ||
Most encouraging to hear, CDMJ. What a wondrous way HE has a way of offering encouragement! | ||||||
14 | How? | Mark | Irish Eyes | 198255 | ||
I hear the distinct ringing of a bell. In Christ, Cheryl |
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15 | How? | Mark | Irish Eyes | 198247 | ||
Have I misunderstood what you are saying then, Doc? Are you saying that there IS or IS NOT any difference between the indwelling and the filling of the Holy Spirit? Please pardon my confusion. I would appreciate clarification in terms that do not come across as ambiguous to me. Perhaps members that have been here longer are more familiar with your writing and terminology. Please state unequivocally for my benefit, if you would be so kind, whether, in your understanding, the indwelling of the Holy Spirit and the filling of the Holy Spirit are one in the same or not. (Aside: In way of explanation, I did not just simply pluck a portion of a verse from the book of Ephesians, but was, rather, reading it within the context of the entire epistle categorically). Going back to Azure's original question, from my understanding through the study of Scripture under the ministry of the Holy Spirit, one can only "... love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength." (Deut 6:4 and Mark 12:30) through the supernatural ministry of the FILLING of the Holy Spirit. There are many Christians that are indwelt by the Holy Spirit that go through their entire lives without ever fulfilling "the first of all commandments" because they are never filled with the enabling power of the Holy Spirit other than at the point of salvation. Carnality and spirituality are mutually exclusive. There is no mixture or percentage between these two attributes. For instance, one cannot be 60 percent spiritual and 40 percent carnal. One is either 100 percent spiritual, through the enabling power of the Holy Spirit, or one is 100 percent carnal and out of fellowship with the LORD. |
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16 | difference between the soul and spirit? | Bible general Archive 4 | Irish Eyes | 198237 | ||
Thank you, Val and Doc. I've been remiss in following up on the warm welcome. It is most appreciated. Please forgive my oversight. In Him, Irish Eyes |
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17 | How? | Mark | Irish Eyes | 198222 | ||
Thank you, CDBJ. Happy New Year! May 2008 be a time of regeneration and a time to plant seeds that will not only take root, but will flourish abundantly. | ||||||
18 | How? | Mark | Irish Eyes | 198218 | ||
Doc, Per the study notes in my Nelson's NKJV study Bible: "Filling is a step beyond the sealing of the Holy Spirit (Ephesians 1:13) Sealing is an action God took at the point of our new birth. The tense of the Greek word translated 'filled' indicates that filling is a moment-by-moment, repeatable action. It is something Paul commands the believers at Ephesus to do. In other words, not all Christians are Spirit-filled, but all have been sealed (Ephesians 4:30)." |
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19 | How? | Mark | Irish Eyes | 198217 | ||
Doc, We never lose the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, hence we are never commanded to be indwelt by the Holy Spirit after regeneration. But in Ephesians 5:18 we, as believers, are commanded to be filled with the spirit. If the filling of the Holy Spirit were an absolute, as you have stated, then a mandate to be filled with the spirit would not be necessary. |
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20 | How? | Mark | Irish Eyes | 198212 | ||
Doc, I agree that 'grieving' is an anthropomorphism in the context that the Holy Spirit is God and therefore is not grieved in the sense of the human emotion of grief. I think we are on the same page in that respect. However it appears I have somehow failed to make my point perspicuous so will attempt to clarify. The filling of God the Holy Spirit and the indwelling of God the Holy Spirit are not one in the same. You are most certainly correct by stating that indwelling is permanent and absolute. However, the filling of God the Holy Spirit is temporal and conditional. The righteousness of God the Holy Spirit precludes any function in the carnal believer. There are no spiritual dynamics in carnality. When a believer confesses his/her sin(s) before God the Father, "He (God) is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sin(s) and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness". Only then is the believer back in fellowship through the ministry (filling) of the Holy Spirit. In this respect your marriage analogy is on the mark; the only difference being that there is no 'divorcing' oneself from God the Holy Spirit. |
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