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1 | Just a thought. What's yours? | 1 Cor 11:18 | GeorJoy | 102611 | ||
If you have so “little,” and are so familiar with this forum, I would attest that you should better spend your time in a place other than this forum. Perhaps scripture. Are you so contented the little that you so proudly profess as "what little I have left" that you would condemn others who profess His service? Unlike many who have the luxury of retirement and their golden years, I work for a living. I put in an 8 to 12 hr day, come home and study for my theological degree, then scripture for 2 to 4 hrs, depending on my work day, and then if there is time, with bibles, commentaries and study material along side, I donate some time to this forum in hopes of passing on something that I myself have been blessed with. I spend much time researching each of my posts. How they are delivered may lack deplomacy, but I am working on that. The substance lacks for nothing. It is so easy to discern the thoughts of the those who quote scripture in defense of their simplemindedness. Perhaps dear soul, if those who would agree with such slanderous accusations as those in the note to which I respond, were to learn to accept the diversity of the church and at the very least, make an attempt to live by what they profess rather than through biblical ignorance, the condemnation of truth which they do not understand, they could consider abandoning their “politically correct, good ole boy,” tell me what I want to hear and nothing else attitude of which the afore mentioned note exuded, and serve the one who condemned such actions. Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of faith; Or ministry, let us wait on our ministering: or he that teacheth, on teaching; Or he that exhorteth, on exhortation: he that giveth, let him do it with simplicity; he that ruleth, with diligence; he that sheweth mercy, with cheerfulness. One day dear soul, many herein and elsewhere will have called to memory the words, “Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.” On that day it will be too late. For (and I paraphrase) “From those who have little, all will be taken, and to those who have much, much will be given.” If you don’t believe that is in scripture I, or someone I am sure can find it for you. IT IS NOT TOO LATE FOR one who admittedly has very little! BUT, that one is the one who can make the decision to gain, or continue to loose till all is taken. Dear soul, 2 Tim 2:15 states words to live by. For I am not ashamed to share my gift with those who will receive. For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. And I would inject “to the humble, the meek and the weak and those who have little as well.” As to those who are “not called” to stand firm in the Word, I should say that you should not be so quick to JUDGE those who are. Exhorting in the Name of the “OUR” Lord and Savior Jesus Christ George |
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2 | Just a thought. What's yours? | NT general Archive 1 | GeorJoy | 102598 | ||
"this Forum can be addictive" Yes, most assuredly. It can be, and for many like TV and the internet in general, IT IS. I think we will agree that it is better than the latter. Personally, I come here to share my biblical studies, hopefully to teach and just as hopefully, to learn. Church is many things to many people. "For where ther are two or more gathered in my name, ther I am in the midst of them." If I can make one change , plant one seed, convince one soul of a single truth that our Lord has revealed to me, I will have achieved my goal herein. Though even we do not always agree, a dear brother in the forum reciently told me that an exhorter isn't going to win any popularity contests. It put me in mind of the prophets and how they were often ridiculed. Not that I should make a comparison, but I have prayed for the acceptance of 3 particular gifts most earnestly. Toungs; The interpritation thereof; and for the life of me, I do not know why, prophesy... Reciently I learned of the mental pain that scripture says those gifted with the latter will experience. I can't help but to wonder if I have been blessed with the latter of my prayers already, perhaps many years ago, for my heart constantly bleeds for those herein and all who seek but do not see when it is so often right in front of them. This thought was and is a considerable consolation to me, for I most assuredly am not popular herein, but I am what I am, and through my experience herein, I pray to smooth out the rough and jagged edges of this building stone of the church. By the way. I am NON DEMONATIONAL. Scripture is what I believe in. If I sound Penticostal, Baptist Methodist or whatever, it is due to the fact that no matter the denomination, the majority are based on scripture. God Bless George |
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3 | Are you onced saved always saved? | John | GeorJoy | 102579 | ||
Hank, are you too so quick to judge simply due to your lack of understanding? Read Rev 3:5. Interpret it as you will. Then read 1Peter 2:4 to 9 Then read 2 Peter 2:20 to 22. Then dear brother and all who would dispute the subject, re read them until the spirit opens your eyes. For it is apparent that it is not the time of understanding for many. Could it be that the reason that so many are described in 2Ti 3:7 is possibly due to the fact that they have, and continue to ignore the instruction in 2Ti 2:15. Hank. I have provided what you ask. If you still do not understand and REFUSE TO SEE; this doesn’t make these truths any less true. AND IT MOST ASSURREDLY DOES NOT MEAN THAT THEY ARE NOT THERE... Don’t let it bother you dear brother for, “for everything there is a time,” even the understanding of various truths. …That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; Exhorting In the name of our Lord And Savior, Jesus Christ. George |
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4 | Are you onced saved always saved? | John | GeorJoy | 102577 | ||
Are you so quick to judge simply due to your lack of understanding? Read Rev 3:5. Interpret it as you will. Then read 1Peter 2:4 to 9 Then read 2 Peter 2:20 to 22. Then dear brother and all who would dispute the subject, re read them until the spirit opens your eyes. For it is apparent that it is not the time of understanding for many. Could it be that the reason that so many are described in 2Ti 3:7 is possibly due to the fact that they have, and continue to ignore the instruction in 2Ti 2:15. Radioman2. I have provided what you ask. If you still do not understand; this doesn’t make these truths any less true. Don’t let it bother you dear brother for, “for everything there is a time,” even the understanding of various truths. …That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; Exhorting In the name of our Lord And Savior, Jesus Christ. George |
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5 | Are you onced saved always saved? | John | GeorJoy | 102440 | ||
And what of those who "do not" overcome? Through a dirrect result of their actions, or lack thereof, will the Lord not do as He stated in Rev 3:5 Everyone responding has either ignored or failed to see the truth in this verse... George |
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6 | Are you onced saved always saved? | John | GeorJoy | 102436 | ||
I can not believe Hank, that you should make such a post in response to the thread to which it is attached!!! Are you responding to My post? I think not! For, if so then your computer screen is not showing words that came from my keyboard. I intend absolutely no malice Hank, but you might consider re-reading my posts, for your post, though vaguely near, is absurdly beneath the realms of thought portrayed therein. In Christ George |
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7 | Are you onced saved always saved? | John | GeorJoy | 102433 | ||
There are many thoughts and truths portrayed by scripture that are not specifically worded therein. Thus they are considered as mere opinions by those with limited or no discernment and, or void of understanding. In not so many words, yet direct from scripture, I have posted your answer already in this very thread. One can be shown the truth, but he must see it. Other than through the Spirit, no one can see it for him. In Christ George |
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8 | Are you onced saved always saved? | John | GeorJoy | 102413 | ||
One final thought. I wonder about your interpritation of 2 Peter. Particularily 2 Peter 2:21. Exhorting In Christ To the end George |
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9 | Jehonadab. Who is your master? | 2 Pet 2:21 | GeorJoy | 102412 | ||
Amen. And thank you. I agree. It would seem that when the questions gets tough, the tough get going. I am sure this person at least saw this post. I pray it may have planted something, or at the very least put a little water on that something. I was getting tired of seeing this post, and about ready to answer it myself. In Christ George |
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10 | Are you onced saved always saved? | John | GeorJoy | 102411 | ||
Bro John, as I am sure you will agree, some simply can not or will not understand. Along with the few who have the nerve to "stand firm," I will not be swayed by the (opinions) of others when scripture plainly tells me contrary. It is apparent that you simply do not understand my argument. I understand where you are coming from and I wish you could truly understand what you read. Paul says not to quarrel about issues that are a matter of opinion. You have your opinion. I have mine. My opinion is based on scripture. I am sure you contend likewise. Considering the fact that both sides on this issue have been stated, and much opinion as to scriptural interptitation has surfaced, I should think that quarreling is the next phase. Thus I will rest my case and admit only to a draw, agreeing to dissagree. Humbly George |
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11 | What Sin? | John | GeorJoy | 102410 | ||
Paul says not to quarrel about issues that are a matter of opinion. Considering the fact that both sides on this issue have been stated, and much opinion as to scriptural interptitation has surfaced, I should think that quarreling is the next phase. Thus I will rest my case and admit only to a draw, agreeing to dissagree. Humbly George |
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12 | What Sin? | John | GeorJoy | 102409 | ||
Paul says not to quarrel about issues that are a matter of opinion. Considering the fact that both sides on this issue have been stated, and much opinion as to scriptural interptitation has surfaced, I should think that quarreling is the next phase. Thus I will rest my case and admit only to a draw, agreeing to dissagree. Humbly George |
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13 | What Sin? | John | GeorJoy | 102407 | ||
Paul says not to quarrel about issues that are a matter of opinion. Considering the fact that both sides on this issue have been stated, and much opinion as to scriptural interptitation has surfaced, I should think that quarreling is the next phase. Thus I will rest my case and admit only to a draw, agreeing to dissagree. Humbly George |
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14 | Are you onced saved always saved? | John | GeorJoy | 102383 | ||
In one of my previous posts I stated something to the affect of the following; "can not is obsurdity; will not, I tend to agree with." There is no such thing as "more salvation!" Continued salvation would be more suitable. Per Mr Webster; Salvation is 1 a : deliverance from the power and effects of sin b : the agent or means that effects salvation c Christian Science : the realization of the supremacy of infinite Mind over all bringing with it the destruction of the illusion of sin, sickness, and death 2 : liberation from ignorance or illusion 3 a : preservation from destruction or failure b : deliverance from danger or difficulty The statement "once saved, always saved" states that one can not turn from the deliverance from danger or difficulty. Your post strengthens my agreement with the "will not" portion of that statement, yet and still, I can't yet agree with "once saved, always saved," but I can't say that I totally disagree with it either. Dear soul, you stated "I do believe wholeheartedly, that He that saved me, is more than capable to keep me." I do too. But scripture teachs that one "can remove his name from the Lambs Book of life." If anyone can, through scripture prove "once saved, always saved," I will accept that statement. Otherwise, through scripture I will continue to assert the statement that "this is a dangerous" way to believe. Either way; the bottom line is that we accept, believe, and repent. This is the foundation. All other discussion is "non essential." I can, and will agree to disagree with my bretherin in this matter. I pray they can and will do the same. What does "IMHO" mean? All for One And One for all. In Christ George |
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15 | HELP ME PLEASE...I am not content! | Rom 12:1 | GeorJoy | 102378 | ||
Pro 17:10 I will not attempt delivery of your stripes, nor do I see any reproof coming from your dirrection, dear soul; only what presents itself as a lack of scriptural learning; or at the very least, a lack of the application thereof, for you are using the "hunt and peck" method of delivering scripture. You need to consider the bible as "a whole" before attempting deliverance of the Word. 2Ti 2:15 I will not argue with you either. Please consider Ecc 10:12 Gal 6:1 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted. I will conclude all correspondence with you stating that, herein I have followed the instruction given in Pro 26:5 Lovingly EXHORTING In Christ George |
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16 | Are you onced saved always saved? | John | GeorJoy | 102372 | ||
My position, dear Hank is SCRIPTURE. As I have stated previously, God "forces" NOTHING on anyone. Not even those who have accepted His Son. Eternal life IS ETERNAL. ETERITY is forever, not bondage. To have something, one MUST accept something, and retain it as well. In the case of the "prodical son". Had that son died in the process of splurging his inheritance, would he have died within the will of his father? I think not. The father would have grieved because he loved the child, but he would have never condoned the childs action. Just like that prodical son, we all have to "accept" the will of the Father, and continue to live and strive to the best of our ability to be pleasing in His sight. I appologize. I do not believe "Once saved, always saved." I do believe that those who do believe this way believe dangerously. I believe in "Grace." No one can convince me that the man or woman who has served God all their life, and because of one of lifes tragedies fallen away from their belief, will enter the gates of heaven. For the righteous are not saved by their acts of righteousness. Nor are the sinfull condemned by their acts of sin. We are saved by the GRACE of God! "man is stronger than Christ's "grip" " This is a weak argument and totally outside of the context of my statement. It seems that some would state that once a "slave" to Christ, one CAN NOT escape. I would state that Gal 5:1 says "Stand fast therefore in the liberty with which Christ has made us free..." Freedom is not bondage. Once saved, always saved is bondage to salvation. WILL NOT, I tend to agree with. CAN NOT is absurdity! and totally out of scripture. So it would appear that we are on the verge of saying the same thing. George |
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17 | ...liars, shall have their part in.... | 1 Sam 21:1 | GeorJoy | 102370 | ||
Unknowingly, we all "play with words" when we do not understand the question or have not fully formulated the answer in our mind. This comment was not intended to be personal. You misunderstand the whole thought of my post. I am not referencing "any" one specific incident. No, "it is not out of the will of God to defy a king that wants them to commit murder." Lying is... Perhaps my question needs clarifying. It is not the defiance of which I speak. It is the "method." Though the purpose was for good, the "lie" is still a sin; or, in the mind of the reader, does the reasoning justify the lie? So, what do you think concerning for instance, what the midwives should have done in the case of Moses? How "could" David have avoided his lies in 1 Sam 21, and come away with his life? Surely these lies could have been avoided without what appeared to be the inevitable consequence. I would sincerely like to hear the thoughts of many as to this original post. George |
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18 | HELP ME PLEASE...I am not content! | Rom 12:1 | GeorJoy | 102333 | ||
I am sure you have read my previous notes concerning this matter. George |
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19 | ...liars, shall have their part in.... | 1 Sam 21:1 | GeorJoy | 102332 | ||
You are playing with words my friend. Scripture teaches the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. If they had not done their office, then they would be out of the will of God. I am sure that some of them did birth without the midwives, but not all. George |
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20 | Are you onced saved always saved? | John | GeorJoy | 102328 | ||
Rev 3:5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels. Consider The Nation of Israel. How many times did they turn from the Lord? Through His infinant mercy He has always drawn them back. But what of those individuals who perrished durring their withdrawel? "He that overcometh." Are there not many who have sliped back into the grips of sin? One would say, "well they were not saved in the first place;" I would say that one should not be the first to cast that stone and make the judgement as to who was and is saved. God can not and will not loose what is His. Yet what is His has a "free will," and can, and have Backslid to sin and will perrish in the lake of fire. Salvation is salvation! Christ WILL NOT be crucified a second time for those not included in the statement "He that overcometh...." The Lion does give ETERNAL LIFE, but He does not force it on anyone. Not even the believer. He will never let go, but one can free himself from His grip. The "once saved, always saved" thought implies that once the lamb is in the flock and following the Shepherd, he has a fence around him. A fence which he can never escape and be devoured by the wolf. Scripture does not teach this thought. Quiet the contrary, scripture tells us to be ever watchfull... George |
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