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1 | What is wrong? | 2 Cor 12:13 | 1-2steve | 148447 | ||
Kalos, Thanks for the clarity!:) Like I said, I was just guessing at that point. In Christ, steve |
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2 | Gen. 14:17-20? | Heb 7:5 | 1-2steve | 148446 | ||
Amen! I see where you're coming from now!:) In Christ, steve |
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3 | Where Does It Say That In Acts? | Acts 2:4 | 1-2steve | 148444 | ||
Tim, Unfortunately, I feel that it was. Only because I asked myself the question; what good has come out of it? Only to create confusion for the one who posed the question in the first place. nomi? That's why I said what I did. I wish good did come out of it. But maybe I'm naive and didn't see the good. If there was, please explain that good to me. In Christ, steve |
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4 | WHAT DOES 2PETER1:4 MEAN AND IS THERE A | Gen 1:26 | 1-2steve | 148421 | ||
Amen. You just nailed it right on the head. Acts 17:11!:) I hope the day never comes when I think that someone can't teach me. Just dig my grave at that point. Because once I'm unteachable, I believe God will put me right on the shelf. I so agree with you brother! I love it too! In Christ, steve |
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5 | Where Does It Say That In Acts? | Acts 2:4 | 1-2steve | 148414 | ||
I'm sorry! I meant the top portion for Morant61. | ||||||
6 | Where Does It Say That In Acts? | Acts 2:4 | 1-2steve | 148413 | ||
Kalos, The "here" that I was refering to is 1 Cor. 13:1,2,3.:) In Christ, steve p.s. I would like to ask (since it's too late to take my earlier note away) to just forget about this, seeing that we're gonna be at odds. The truth of the matter is that I've been in bible studies, prayer groups and praying with Christians at the Christian Film Festival. And in all of those, in the end we all would start to worship God. And darn if someone wouldn't start speaking in tongues. I couldn't focus on God. I felt very uncomfortable. It was a major disruption. It surely "never" edified me. And I decided to search out the truth for myself. In the last 2.5 years, I struggled with this issue (needless to say, some woman calling herself a prophetess told me that it wouldn't be long before I was hanging form the rafters too!), this one is the one that pushed that button. I have prayed, searched the Scriptures, prayed, searched commentaries (most of which were inconclusive), prayed more and read a few books. And I drew my conclusion based on the evidence placed before me. And other Scriptures that we would disagree on. So my point to this is that we're never gonna get any further. Just a bunch of hot debate. So I'm waving the white flag. I will believe what I believe, and so you will to. But there are far better things to talk about. About 1,800 pages of the bible perhaps? Let's do as the writer of Hebrews said "Therefore leaving the elementary doctrines of Christ, let us press on to maturity. |
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7 | Did God experience what human did in O.T | Gen 1:26 | 1-2steve | 148411 | ||
mommapbs, I'm not sure exactly how to do that. Are you kinda looking for a testimony? I'm not even sure how to do that In Christ, steve p.s. I didn't realize that I responded to something in January. I thought it was something from today. There I go thinking again.:) |
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8 | how do i regain my wifes trust and love | Bible general Archive 2 | 1-2steve | 148406 | ||
Searcher, No one has shared any "rules" with me. I offered him to go to counciling, not to me. But I can relate. I'm sorry if I offended anyone. I was just under the impression that Christians don't turn their back on someone in need. (well, sorry you're hungry, go eat that rock over there!). I'm not directing that your way at all, so please don't think I am. It just really concerns me when we have to turn our backs on someone because of some rules. I am NOT a counselor by any stretch of the imagination (which is why I encouraged him to seek counseling), but could you imagine what he might have thought of Christians if he got such cold responses (just go away, we can't talk to you)? In Christ, steve |
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9 | Did God experience what human did in O.T | Gen 1:26 | 1-2steve | 148399 | ||
Mommapbs, Well said!!! Sincerly,steve |
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10 | WHAT DOES 2PETER1:4 MEAN AND IS THERE A | Gen 1:26 | 1-2steve | 148394 | ||
FUTURES' How fitting a mame concidering the reference to 2 Pet.1:4.:) I'm just simply gonna quote my commentary on this one. "Through these" refers to God's "glory and goodness" or more generally to His salvation mediated through the Incarnation. So when Christ came at His 1st advent, God made certain promises (very great and precious) of the Messianic Age (3:9, 13) to be brought in when Christ returned. These promises enable Christians to "participate in the divine nature". How does this participation come about? In at least 2 ways: 1) The promises themselves have a purifying effect on a believers life (1 John 3:3). 2)Conversion entails a definite break with "the corruption...caused by evil desires". In coming to know God through Christ, believers escape the corruption of sin; and Christ renews and restores the image of God in them. (Expositor's Bible Commentary). Do you see why I said that your name was so fitting?:) In Christ, steve |
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11 | Where Does It Say That In Acts? | Acts 2:4 | 1-2steve | 148389 | ||
Kalos, I'm glad that you pointed out to Doc that you were speaking in "hypothetical" terms, using the word "IF". Isn't that how Paul started 1Cor. 13:1,2 and 3. So was Paul also speaking in "hypothetical " terms here too?:) But check the greek word "ean" out for yourself. Don't take my word for it.:) I'm just stating the facts my brother.:) In Christ, steve |
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12 | Heb. 3-4:1-13? | Heb 4:1 | 1-2steve | 148351 | ||
Ray, I'm so sorry! I meant v. 5 not 6. We are going through Hebrews now (and been for over a year) and what I was wondering is that the Israelites were delivered, they just weren't allowed to enter into the promised land. And Hebrews talks of an inheritance. Perhaps the 1,000 yr. reign with Christ. And just as the Israelites did not enter because of unbelief, the believers who don't "hold fast our confidence (3:6), the beginning of our assurance (3:14) and our confession (4:14) will not reign with Christ in the millenial reign. But it doesn't necessarily mean that we won't go into eternity (like this is a loss of rewards at the Bema Judgement Seat). But Jude "seems" to say the opposite concerning those thar were "delivered". And Jude not only speaks of their sin ( angels, Soddom and Gomorrah, and the certain men), but also of their judgement. I just wanted some input on what you thought. Sorry for not specifying the right verse. But do you see what I'm struggling with? Also that rest is supposed to have something to do with the reign of the righteous King. What do you think? Sincerly steve |
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13 | What is so wrong with Catholics | Bible general Archive 2 | 1-2steve | 148319 | ||
Tim, AMEN to that! I have 4 children of my own. All of which are 11 and under. But there is good in it. It forces me to be the one to teach my kids the bible (concidering I'll stand accountable to God). But if those statistics are true, that's really sad.:( In Christ, steve |
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14 | What is so wrong with Catholics | Bible general Archive 2 | 1-2steve | 148317 | ||
Tim, AMEN to that! I have 4 children of my own. All of which are 11 and under. But there is good in it. It forces me to be the one to teach my kids the bible (concidering I'll stand accountable to God). But if those statistics are true, that's really sad.:( In Christ, steve |
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15 | what is the importance of tongues? | Acts 2:4 | 1-2steve | 148314 | ||
Searcher56, I went and checked out your post #116386 and 115095 and it seemed pretty sound!:) Though I still am not sure about knowledge or prophesy. But at this point, prophesy is in the N.T., and knowledge is there as well. So I have to believe that there is also no need for these sign gifts today. In Christ, steve |
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16 | what is the importance of tongues? | Acts 2:4 | 1-2steve | 148309 | ||
Tim, Hey! What I was saying is that it's the word of God to be preached. Back 2000 yrs. ago, there was no N.T. so tongues were necessary as well as prophesy and knowledge. But the canon of Scripture is complete (including prophesy), so the need to speak in tongues today is unprofitable (I'm sure you'll disagree) because anything anyone says as far as teaching, instruction in righteousness, correction and reproof (2 Tim.3:16) is already found in the bible. So what need is there for tongues? Or prophesy, or knowledge? We have the inspired word of God to lean on and not some revelation from someone who could've easily been used by the devil to lead us astray. I'm open but very cautious. And my statement about Heb. 4:12 is simply the fact that if there are any words that someone needs to speak (as far as living the Christian life is concerned), then it should line up with God's word and not someone who spoke in tongues, and if tongues were so important, then it should have read that tongues are sharper than any two-edged sword. That was my point. But Scripture doesn't say that a message in tongues must be something that is "not" found in the bible. On the contrary, The word spoken in a tongue must line up. If not, it would not edify. But again the N.T. was not around back then, so the tongues back then would would have to line up with the teachings of Christ during His earthly ministry. I hope this helps? I'm not sure that I answered your question correctly. If so, could you restate the question? Thanks!!! In Christ, Steve |
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17 | what is the importance of tongues? | Acts 2:4 | 1-2steve | 148282 | ||
Dear Morant61, The answer to your question is found in 1 Peter 4:11. The NIV states: If anyone speaks, he should do it as one speaking the "very words of God". And if a pastor preaches something that is not biblical, I would call into question his authenticity as a pastor. Jesus, Peter, Paul and Jude all speak of the perverbial wolf in sheeps clothing. And they are out there today. So we need to be careful what we believe.:) That's my view though. Also Heb. 4:12 states that the word of God is "living" and "active"...not tongues. So I do have Scripture that backs me up. I also believe that God could have revealed that same revelation to you without tongues. Because the fact of the matter is that you were sensitive to someone else's needs.:) :). I praise the Lord for people like that!!! In Christ, Steve |
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18 | what is the importance of tongues? | Acts 2:4 | 1-2steve | 148256 | ||
Tim, I just have one question since I've backed my argument with a number of Scriptures. If you spoke in public with an interpreter present, what could you have said that's not already in the bible?:) In Christ, Steve |
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19 | what is the importance of tongues? | Acts 2:4 | 1-2steve | 148226 | ||
Tim, I believe you are right about the different commentaries. They will vary. But you already know that when we study the Scriptures we "draw out"(exegesis) what we can to come to a conclusion, not read into (eisegesis). Then, we can go back and check our findings against the better commentaries. If that proves inconclusive, we still have the history of the church to look back on. Because whatever we come up with, if we don't see agreement in other comm. and church history, we could very well be wrong. And this is where humility comes in. We need to go back starting with the early church fathers and all the way up to now to see if what we believe lines up with most of all of church history. And my standing does line up with the major majority of church history. That is why I am so adimant about where I stand. Allow me to show you my stage of truth: 1) The bible 2) Reason 3)Tradition 4)Experience 5)Emotions The first one is the objective truth. Everything else is subject to interpretation. Notice that emotions or experience is not 1st , 2nd or third. This is the way I and many other Christians should view truth. Not on some emotional high.:) I would challenge anyone who thinks they can speak in tongues to pray in the "origional" language that God gave them for 1 month and see for themselves if their relationship is stronger or weaker. I think you'll find that the emotional experience you long for is as addictive as cocaine. You'll sweat bullets and probably fail a couple of times. It's a tough habit to break.:( Now, is the position I hold wrong? If your stage is different, what does your stage look like?:) Thanks for keeping me sharp!:) Prov.27:17 In Christ, steve P.S. I actually did get some good rest after racking my brain til 2:00a. And thanks for your hospitality!:) |
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20 | what is the importance of tongues? | Acts 2:4 | 1-2steve | 148219 | ||
EdB, I will agree that it is very possible that God will allow a situation like that to happen. The example you use is a tongue used for the purpose of winning a lost soul to Christ. This is biblical (and it doesn't happen daily either, just unique situations). And I have stated earlier that Wycliffe has gone into many different places, and learned whatever type of language the tribe or whatever was using and helped them put together a language so they could "translate" their language onto paper. Would you call this speaking in tongues? At least here, these people use their minds, where was is taught about tongues today is "just say the syllables and don't think about the sounds" as if God utterly by-passes the mind. And there is not one shred of evidence that would validate a "heavenly language". As I already said, the verse carries the "even though" idea. He was saying that even if he could speak in tongues of men (plural) and tongues of angels (or a heavenly language) (also plural) it's all a clanging gong w/out love. Love is the main point here, not tongues. I'll hit ch. 14 later but I hope this will be something to really think on. In Christ, steve |
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