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1 | Gift of speaking in tongues for all? | Bible general Archive 3 | mitchm0521 | 167935 | ||
If there is no interpreter Paul says that you should keep silent, its necessary to understand that Paul speaks of two different types of Speaking in other Tongues, he talks about the Gift of the Spirit ( 1 Cor 12:10 ) This is a gift, that the Spirit hands out to whom he will during a church service. HOwever in verse 30 Paul shows us that in a church service, not all speak with tongues. However, in 1 Cor 14 Paul says that He thanks God he speaks in tongues more than them all. He goes on to say that 'Yet in the church..... ' So here Paul is showing that there is a differnce between the Gift of Tongues, and speaking in tongues in your own personal prayer time. In Jude it says we are to build ourselves up on our most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost, Paul writes in 1 Cor 14:4 that if he prays in an unknown tongue his Spirit prays. Also in Rom 8:26 Paul says that through praying in the Holy Ghost, or praying in other tongues, however you chose to phrase it, the Spirit helps our infirmites because we know not what we should pray for as we ought. So tongues, in your prayer time, is beneficial to every believer. As I pointed out in Jude, its commanded that we do it. So if there is none to interpret in the Church service, then we are to keep it silent, however as Paul says, in our own prayer time, it is very beneficial. God Bless, Mitch |
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2 | Gift of speaking in tongues for all? | Bible general Archive 3 | mitchm0521 | 167942 | ||
Mark let me say you are one of the best to talk to on here. You are one of the only ones who doesn't just try to denounce what I teach as something new and unusual. Thank you for your desire to talk Scripture. BTW did you get my question when I asked if you knew of some good text that would help me with learning the hebrew and greek words better? As to praying in tongues, Paul says starting in 1 Cor 14:14 that if he prays in an unkown tongue his Spirit prays. And he goes on to say that he will pray in the Spirit ( which he just said is praying in other tongues ) and he will pray in his own understanding. He will sing in the Spirit, and he will sin with his own understanding. Thats how I define Scripturally praying in the Spirit, as praying in tongues. God Bless, Mitch |
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3 | Gift of speaking in tongues for all? | Bible general Archive 3 | mitchm0521 | 167951 | ||
I guess I'm not sure if you are agreeing with me, or if you are disagreeing with what I said. Do you believe praying in the Spirit, is praying in tongues as well as I do? As for the blueletterbible.org , I recently found that, and it is one of the best bible websites I've ever seen. Thanks! Mitch |
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4 | Gift of speaking in tongues for all? | Bible general Archive 3 | mitchm0521 | 167952 | ||
I am the 'one' whom you quoted I believe. And I said exactly what God said as well. And no, it does not say in the text in that verse that we pray through or in the Holy Spirit, however it does say in 1 Cor 14:14, If I pray in an unknown tongue my Spirit prayeth. So right there, Paul shows us, that the Spirit prays for us. And in Romans 8:26 he is showing us how the Spirit helps us. We are to pray in other tongues, do you not think we all should obey that simple commandment? God Bless, Mitch |
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5 | Gift of speaking in tongues for all? | Bible general Archive 3 | mitchm0521 | 167971 | ||
If God said something once, its important. I'm not sure what counting the number of times something is said tells us. It certainly doesn't mean praying in tongues is unimportant. Because if thats someones theory, then repentance isn't important, that word is used less than tongues. God Bless, Mitch |
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6 | Gift of speaking in tongues for all? | Bible general Archive 3 | mitchm0521 | 167994 | ||
You said if a word or phrase is used seldom, it would certainly be one indication that it was not as important as other concepts. There is four places in the Word where God uses Alpha and Omega to describe himself. So is that not important? My point here is, I don't care if something is used only one. If God wrote it, its just as important as if he had wrote it a thousand times. To say anything is less important than another thing in the Word, is absurd. Every single letter of the Word of God is important, its a law brother, a law that we should all be living by. God Bless, Mitch |
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7 | Which part of Acts should we emulate? | NT general Archive 1 | mitchm0521 | 168130 | ||
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8 | What is to ask and receive the Holy Spir | Luke 11:13 | mitchm0521 | 167783 | ||
If there is not a secondary immersion into the HOly Ghost, that follows one being born again, how do you explain away Acts 2:4. What was that all about? |
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9 | What is to ask and receive the Holy Spir | Luke 11:13 | mitchm0521 | 167801 | ||
Yes, it says they were filled with the Holy Ghost. And Jesus in Acts 1:5 said that they would 'be baptized in the Holy Ghost, not many days hence' So yes, they were filled and they were baptized into the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues. The Lord said they would be baptized, and they were. God Bless, Mitch |
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10 | What is to ask and receive the Holy Spir | Luke 11:13 | mitchm0521 | 167846 | ||
I just gave you the reference brother. Jesus said they would be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence. Hey said they would be immersed with the Holy Ghost, this was after they were already believers. So it has to be secondary. Unless they needed to be 'saved' from their sins twice. Which we know is not right. | ||||||
11 | What is to ask and receive the Holy Spir | Luke 11:13 | mitchm0521 | 167850 | ||
If you think speaking in other tongues, and the baptism in the Holy Ghost is a 20th century thing, then why did Jesus tell them that they couldn't even leave Jerusalem and be a witness for him untill they recieved the baptism with the Holy Ghost? ( Luke 24:49 ) And notice these men are already born again, ( John 20:22 ) The reference I just gave in John shows us that these men recieved the HOly Ghost, at least a measure of it didn't they? Yet Jesus told them to wait in Jerusalem untill they were endued, untill they were immersed with the Holy Ghost. This is one easy place to see there is a secondary immersion into the Holy Ghost. Also you think its a modern teaching, what do you think happened in Acts chapter 19 when Paul shows up at Ephesus, and speaking to born again believers says " Have you recieved the Holy Ghost since you believed" ( Acts 19:2 ) There are two places, which show born again men and or women of God who recieve something after the new birth, which is the infilling of the Holy Ghost. How about Acts chapter 10, Peter is preaching and in verse 44 through the end of the chapter we see that the Holy Ghost fell on all those that heard the Word, and they began to speak in other tongues and magnify God. How about we go back to the day of Pentecost, Peter says in Acts Chapter 2 verse 39, speaking about the promise of this baptism, he says "The promise is unto you and your children, and as many are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. " This particular verse proves that it was not just for them, but is for all believers. Jesus said in Mark 16:17 that those that believe on him, ... shall speak with new tongues. Isiah 28:11 says that with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people. In 1 Cor 14:18 Paul says ' I thank my God I speak with tongues more than you all' And notice who he wrote to here, the church at Corinth, he had to write to them, to show them the proper way to speak in tongues, to do it in order, and to use it in their own prayer time. They were crazy about speaking in tongues, they wanted to do it constantly, everyone in the church wanted to stand up and give a tongue. Yet Paul says that he speaks in tongues more than the whole bunch of them. So no, unless the entire Bible was written in the 20th century, what I am saying is not new material. Just because someone doesn't believe something, doesn't make it new. Might make it new to them, but not new. Now as for what you said about the book of Acts, what does the context of the entire book deal with. Simply it deals with the 'Acts of the Apostles' or rather the Acts of the early church, because the first time we see Paul, he isn't an apostle. ( Acts 13:1 ) Paul was either a prophet , teacher, or both. So what Acts is showing us, is exactly the way the early church operated, and it is how we should operate today. From being immersed with the Holy Ghost, speaking with other tongues, to raising up the lame man as Peter did at the gate called beautiful ( Acts 3:6 ) To preaching the entire Word with boldness. Everything they did, is what we should be set on doing. My conclusion does stand given the entirety of the Bible. So in other words, the book of Acts, is the Acts of the early church, it is how we should be operating today. So since what I've said is scripture, its really hard to call it a 20th centrury invention. Hope this helped, Mitch |
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12 | What is to ask and receive the Holy Spir | Luke 11:13 | mitchm0521 | 167857 | ||
There is one Truth brother, I'll never agree to disagree. If you wish to no longer talk about it, thats your choice. If you wish to not answer Scripture with scripture, you have the right to do so, and I will respect that. I'll not force you to discuss any part of the Word you wish to not discuss. God Bless, Mitch |
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13 | What is to ask and receive the Holy Spir | Luke 11:13 | mitchm0521 | 167927 | ||
Please refer back to my previous post, I believe it was 167850, and you will see plenty of Scripture which shows you that the Baptism in the HOly Ghost, and being filled with the Holy Ghost, with speaking in other tongues, is not a new thing as some call it. Might be new to some people, but its definitly not new to the Church. Its exactly how they started off on the day of Pentecost. God Bless, Mitch |
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14 | Truth | John 7:17 | mitchm0521 | 167401 | ||
You make a wonderful point, when someone doesn't take the time to actually read or listen to what another man has said in his own words, its best not to talk at all. And I think cartoons are already out there somewhere, there is some website called bible.ca or something, which has a bunch of videos a person can watch that are doctored up to make many preachings such as Hagin look foolish. Its interesting though, how they claim they are doing a Christian work, yet they are illegaly copying and distrubiting material that is not only doctored up ( you can see on some of the videos how the men are wearing one suit one instance, and another suit the next, which shows a competent man its faked ) but its also most likely illegal to distribute those without permission from the publishers. Anyways, people should either talk about the Word, or just keep quiet. ITs about time Christians got off their high horse and thought they were allowed to judge every man in this life and never worry about love and compasssion. |
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15 | What is preaching Christ? | John 7:17 | mitchm0521 | 167406 | ||
The Cross is what allows me to have physcial healing in my body, and the death of Christ is what makes me rich. Its what prospers me, and its what heals me. So what I'm saying, is that if you say preaching Christ, is not talkikng about the miracles that come from what he did, then you are just wrong. The Cross is everything to a believer. It brought me into right standing with God, it delivered me from all sin, it brings total physcial healing to my body, it makes me a financially prosperous man. It is miraculous. So my point was, to say that preaching Christ, is not preaching miracles, then what is the Cross if it itself is not a miracle? | ||||||
16 | What is preaching Christ? | John 7:17 | mitchm0521 | 167417 | ||
Yes I have personally seen mountains moved. I am living in the 100 fold return on everything I sow into the Kingdom of God. God has just recently supernatually blessed my family with a beautiful new home. By the world's standards we would not be able to afford it, but by God's standards, and by his love for his children, we can afford it. You can talk badly about Brother Hagin all you like, you are the one who has to give an account of every idle word you speak when you stand before Christ. If you don't like the 100 fold message, maybe you might want to blot that part of scripture out of your bible, or at least try to explain to me what you believe it means, instead of using the devils tactics and becoming an accuser of the brethren. And yes, Ephesians states wonderful things Christ has done for us on the cross. Peter does as well when he points out that because of the stripes of Jesus Christ, because he was beaten, we can live in divine healing in our lives. I'm simply saying, that to say preaching miracles is not 'preaching Christ' as someone here put it. Then you must be saying that the cross is not a miraculous thing. And I'm simply saying, that since the cross is what brought me back into the relationship with God he ordained me to walk in before the foundation of the world, which yes as Jesus said , does include financial prosperity, then it is a mircale that needs to be preached. If you don't preach it, then you are leaving out a wonderful event that took place upon that cross. And I don't care to read a book that tries to document things about other men, I like to read scriptural messages. I don't worry about fussing and fighting with others. I like to leave the bad mouthing, trash talking to the sinners. Also, if you takt he time to read Brother Hagin's books yourself, then you will see that he glorifies the Lord in his own life, by having everything JEsus paid for. Jesus removed the curse from me, so if I still chose to live in sickness and disease, I'm throwing out part of what he paid for. If I don't walk in the fullness of his sacrifice, then I'm making the cross of none effect in my life. And I refuse to ever belittle anything that God has done for me. Brother I understand many don't like the message that Brother Hagin preaches, but all I ask is that instead of saying what so and so said, and talking about hearsay, and bad mouthing others. Give me scripture that prove a certain teaching is wrong. Otherwise, I'll not response anymore. I'm here to help those who have valid questions, I'm done with watching people talk bad about God's children. I don't agree with everything you say, does God then say that I should go around and bad mouth you? Talk down about you? I don't agree with everything Billy Graham says, but should I go around and say he shouldn't be on TV? NO that would be absurd, thousands, if not millions, have come to the saving grace of Jesus Christ through the ministry of Billy Graham, so even if the man is wrong on some of his beliefs on the Word, at least he is doing what God is leading him to do, and not sitting around bad mouthing Kenneth Copeland or Joyce Meyer. He's following God, and loving his neighbor. He's working no ill toward his neighbor. He's living the Word of God, even if he is wrong about some things, which I think he is, or at least I should say, I would believe that he is. But you'll never get me to say a bad thing about the man. He's done wonderful things for Christian faith. God Bless you, and remember, what God did in Jesus on the cross, is far greater than what satan did in Adam in the garden! Mitch |
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17 | What is preaching Christ? | John 7:17 | mitchm0521 | 167420 | ||
1. I have no need for any of those mountains to be moved. If I did, then I would move them. Jesus was not calling a fig tree a mountain you know. He was saying that whatever mountain you need moved, whatever obstacle you need removed, you speak to it, as he did the tree. He wasn't talking about a mountain like Mt. McKinley. But he was talking about mountains in the obstacle sense, like we say a 'mountain of debt' 2. God supernatually provided the new home, nothing changed in my paycheck or my wifes. But God loves his children, and he never lies you know. So when he said because I tithe he'd open the windows of heaven and pour out a blessing so much that I can't contain it, he wasn't just lieing when he said that. And even if I had gotten a huge increase in my paycheck, that would still be God, because every perfect gift comes down from the Father of LIghts with whom is no variableness neither shadow of turniing. So God could have done it by increasing my paycheck, but he decided to just do it, and I'm thankful for how he has done it, because nobody can deny its of God. 3. The context reveals that anything you sacrifice for the Gospel's sake, wether it be relationships or finances, you will recieve a hundredfold return on that ( thats sacrificing 10 dollars and getting 1000 in return ) you will recieve that hundredfold in this current life, and you inherit eternal life in the one to come. It is Jesus speaking, and he is speaking about anyone who sacrifices these things. And yes, I praise God for what he is doing in my life. He's blessing me in every area, spiritually as well as physically and mentally. I can even testify that my wife was attacked two days ago with what the doctors say is strep throat ( spelling sorry? ) however we stayed on the Word, and what takes they say about 4 weeks to recover from, is taking no more than a couple days! Glory to God Brother! HOpe I answered your questions good enough for you. God Bless, Mitch |
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18 | What is preaching Christ? | John 7:17 | mitchm0521 | 167430 | ||
Read it again please, I never said if it works for me it must be from God. I said, as the Word does, that every good and perfect gift is from God. And yes, I'll take whatever my father has decided to give me. He bought my healing, I'll accept it. And if you have read my other posts, as you say you have. Then you know I'll discuss scripture. I'm not going to stand up and defend Brother Copeland, he doesn't want me to, and he doesn't need me to, Christ will do that. I study the Word of God daily, no need to challenge me to do so. I Study the Word, and I spend time praying in other tongues and in my own understanding, and allowing the Spirit to reveal the word to me. So again, no need to 'challenge' me to do something I already do. And yes, Satan quoted Scripture, what does that prove? If you don't agre with Kenneth Copeland, show him where he is missing it. Use scripture, thast the only thing I'll feel like responding to. I don't base my belief on what some christian institute says, or what Kenneth Copeland says either, I base it on the Word. I don't need the internet to tell me what God said in his Word. So no thank you, but I'll not do any 'reserch' on the net to get a revelation fo the Word. I could care less what all those people have to say about my Brothers and Sistesr in Christ Jesus. I am a Christian man, I love my neighbor, I have no need to listen to hate filled writtings. Like I've said before, I'll talk about scripture, not opinion. If my body is under the curse, then do you think God is a liar when he said Jesus has redemmed me from the curse? And what does it matter how many people have died from sickness? I've had family members die lost and in all probability are in hell right now, does that mean I have to do the same thing? It makes no sense to say that so and so died of cancer, so it must be God's will for that to happen, but you won't say, so and so went to hell, it must be God's will for some people to go to hell. As a matter fo fact, if you believe sickness is sometimes the will of God for people, I hope you are convinced of your beliefs enough to try to clsoe down every hosptital you see, because they might be helping someone that God wants in pain. And I hope when you have children, you get on your knees before the Father, and beg him to give a fatal illness to your children, so that they will be living ina wonderfully perfected will of God. Thats abusrd, you won't do that, why? God Bless, Mitch |
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19 | What is preaching Christ? | John 7:17 | mitchm0521 | 167432 | ||
Do you have any scripture to back up your belief that its better to find otu what the internet says than what the Word says? Give me scripture and I'll discuss it, otherwise do us all a service and keep quiet. This is a Bible study forum, not a reserch club. | ||||||
20 | What is preaching Christ? | John 7:17 | mitchm0521 | 167437 | ||
Thank you brother for your concern, but I want to make it very clear that you have no authority to pray that for me. God has revealed himself to me as my healer, and my provider, call me a name it and claim it, and a blab it and grab it feller if you like :) Thats fine by me, Jesus said that when you have the 100 fold return persecution would come, and I don't mind it. But thanks for your concern. God Bless, Mitch |
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