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1 | pay or not to pay | Jer 27:6 | dnewland | 170746 | ||
Does it not say both? To pay taxes, but to not accept, participate, or commit murder. That's why it seems what Paul is saying in Romans contridicts to the will of God in the OT which prohibits murder by anyone under the Ten commandments. Im just saying it's pretty confusing. It's not as clear cut as Paul would describe in Romans. Would you support a Hitler, or would you rebel? |
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2 | pay or not to pay | Jer 27:6 | dnewland | 170747 | ||
Would all the great reformers of time been in rebellion to God? Wasn't Jesus himself consider a rebel among the authorities of his day? Or what about when pharisees where asking Jesus about healing on Sabbath day? It was against the law to work and heal I presume? Many questions??? |
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3 | pay or not to pay | Jer 27:6 | dnewland | 170768 | ||
I appreciate everyones opinions on the matter, and trying to answer my questions. I still don't feel right supporting murder through taxation. Nor do I believe Romans 13 excuses us from supporting a gov that supports those sins. Is their a way to see what the old bible languages said sorta of see the reinterpetation for myself? |
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4 | Bible before interpetation into English | Jer 27:6 | dnewland | 170778 | ||
I have and will again,... I would think "thou shall not kill" in Ten commandments, would be enough of a contradiction. Abortion funded by taxation would imply to me that America is murdering and/or accompliance to, through support of Government.( God else only knows what other corruption may be going on.) I guess the contradiction I see in this example could be summed up like this." God says" Thou shalt not murder" but Paul says support a evil government because they do God's will." I understand Paul times, I also understand Paul was the authority and definately had a loyality to it, bred into him. Even God himself asked Paul why he was persecuting him before his conversion on the way to Damascus. After conversion, Paul would have been breaking the law by turning to a disciple and neglecting his duty to persecute Christians. Wouldn't he? Maybe he retired? Does any of the four gospels back up what Paul is saying to the extent Paul explains. Yes Jesus did say give to Caesar what is Caeser and to God what is God's. To me the key term there is give to "God what is God's". Are you God's or Caesars? What have you chosen? As a Christian I'm God's, not Caesers, Caeser is long gone anyway. Are we to interpet Jesus the same as Paul in Romans 13? Paul goes a little further than Jesus did. Another Question? If I did all my trade in Gold or bartering which doesn't have US markings on it then would I have to pay taxes? There is a dollar out there backed by gold I believe its called the Liberty dollar. See it isn't as clearcut as you think? Many, many questions. |
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5 | Bible before interpetation into English | Jer 27:6 | dnewland | 170779 | ||
I have and will again,... I would think "thou shall not kill" in Ten commandments, would be enough of a contradiction. Abortion funded by taxation would imply to me that America is murdering and/or accompliance to, through support of Government.( God else only knows what other corruption may be going on.) I guess the contradiction I see in this example could be summed up like this." God says" Thou shalt not murder" but Paul says support a evil government because they do God's will." I understand Paul times, I also understand Paul was the authority and definately had a loyality to it, bred into him. Even God himself asked Paul why he was persecuting him before his conversion on the way to Damascus. After conversion, Paul would have been breaking the law by turning to a disciple and neglecting his duty to persecute Christians. Wouldn't he? Maybe he retired? Does any of the four gospels back up what Paul is saying to the extent Paul explains. Yes Jesus did say give to Caesar what is Caeser and to God what is God's. To me the key term there is give to "God what is God's". Are you God's or Caesars? What have you chosen? As a Christian I'm God's, not Caesers, Caeser is long gone anyway. Are we to interpet Jesus the same as Paul in Romans 13? Paul goes a little further than Jesus did. Another Question? If I did all my trade in Gold or bartering which doesn't have US markings on it then would I have to pay taxes? There is a dollar out there backed by gold I believe its called the Liberty dollar. See it isn't as clearcut as you think. Many, many questions. Perhaps I just don't take man's interpetation of Bible easily is my problem I guess. |
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6 | Bible before interpetation into English | Jer 27:6 | dnewland | 170789 | ||
Just trying to provoke thought about scriptures. I apologize if I offended you that was not my intent. I am happy its clear for you, however I am not at all satified that Romans 13 means would should lay down and die so to speak to an evil gov. Thanks anyway for your opinions on Romans 13. God bless |
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