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1 | Girlfriends racist parents. HELP ME! | Bible general Archive 2 | compudex | 109937 | ||
Since I see the rest of this forum is hesitant to speak on this issue, I will. I will NOT let the Word of God be perverted! If your continue to live in a same sex relation you are not a Christian! Your lifestyle is an abomination to God! God said, And ye shall be holy unto me: for I the LORD am holy.. Lev 20:26 I am amazed at how fast we turn to the pressures of the world and forget God. Is the Word of God without affect? Do we adhere to the laws of man first or of God first? Does not the Scriptures teach us that men sexually active with men and women sexually active with women are an abomination to the Lord? From the beginning this behavior has been condemned by God: Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. (this applies to women also) Did God take the rib from Adam and make Bruce? Or was the rib taken from woman? And this practice is still condemned today: Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: Rom 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. Rom 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient... Rom 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. 1Co 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 1Co 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. Now, I have written these things to you so you may know that this type of behavior is unacceptable in the kingdom of God. Now, you have the knowledge and the truth. Now, you are without excuse. Separate yourself from this association. Exhort the brethren and lift them up and remind them of the Gospel that was first preached to you. Rev 2:29 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches. Be a servant of Christ first! This really is not a racial thing. |
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2 | Girlfriends racist parents. HELP ME! | Bible general Archive 2 | compudex | 109942 | ||
Dear Hank, The idea came from her own words; "and me and my girlfriend (we are both christians) have been in love for 9 months now. We are an interracial couple". Thank you. |
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3 | Girlfriends racist parents. HELP ME! | Bible general Archive 2 | compudex | 109949 | ||
Dear kasmapalities, Sorry I mistook your first post. Are you the same, kasmapalities, as on the Atari Forum? At least you know where I stand on the other sublect! Thanks for your understanding. Compudex is still human. |
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4 | ... | Ex 20:4 | compudex | 111479 | ||
Dear Emmaus, You have not answered the question. The question has to do with the Decalogue not catechism. "Thou shall not MAKE unto thee any graven image...thou SHALL NOT BOW DOWN to them...". Would this also include statues of humans? God gave Moses the Ten Commandments, He wrote them in stone and now all of a sudden they are "telescoped" into one. What have you done with the Word of God? Yes, I sucked you into this discussion because many of your answers to this forum are from catechism and NOT from the Word of God. The forum's foundational law is NOT to push ones denomination and this you have done repeatedly. Therefore a denominational complaint will be filed with the Lockman Foundation. I have recorded all your answers that reference web links to Catholic websites and all your catechism answers. This forum is based on the Word of God and NOT the words of men and traditions thereof. Here is a sample of just a few of your references: http://198.62.75.1/www1/CDHN/part3_2.html http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01775b.htm http://198.62.75.1/www1/CDHN/part4.html http://www.nccbuscc.org/nab/bible/deuteronomy/intro.htm http://www.catholic.com/library/Born_Again_in_Baptism.asp http://www.catholic.com/library/Baptismal_Grace.asp http://www.catholic.com/library/Necessity_of_Baptism.asp http://198.62.75.1/www1/CDHN/healing.html#FORMS 481 Roman Catechism 1, 6, 3. 482 Cf. Council of Rome (745): DS 587; Benedict XII, Cum dudum (1341): DS 1011; Clement VI, Super quibusdam (1351): DS 1077; Council of Toledo IV (625): DS 485; Mt 27:52-53. 487 Ancient Homily for Holy Saturday: http://198.62.75.1/www1/CDHN/creed7.html#DESCENDED 592 Cf. Council of Lyons II (1274): DS 857-858; Council of Florence (1439): DS 1304- 1306; Council of Trent (1563): DS 1820. 593 Cf. Benedict XII, Benedictus Deus (1336): DS 1000-1001; John XXII, Ne super his (1334): DS 990. 594 Cf. Benedict XII, 8enedictus Deus (1336): DS 1002. 595 St. John of the Cross, Dichos 64." The Catechism of the Catholic Church http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04481c.htm http://www.ewtn.com/library/CURIA/CDWCREMA.HTM http://www.newadvent.org/summa/107500.htm http://www.newadvent.org/summa/107600.htm http://www.newadvent.org/summa/107600.htm http://www.newadvent.org/summa/108900.htm http://www.catholic.com/library/Infant_Baptism.asp http://www.catholic.com/library/Early_Teachings_of_Infant_Baptism.asp http://www.catholic.com/library/rapture.asp http://www.catholic.com/library/Purgatory.asp http://www.catholic.com/library/Roots_of_Purgatory.asp 604 Cf. Council of Florence (1439): DS 1304; Council of Trent (1563): DS 1820; (1547): 1580; see also Benedict XII, Benedictus Deus (1336): DS 1000. 606 St. Gregory the Great, Dial. 4, 39: PL 77, 396; cf. Mt 12:31. 607 2 Macc 12:46. 608 Cf. Council of Lyons II (1274): DS 856. 609 St. John Chrysostom, Hom. in 1 Cor. 41, 5: PG 61, 361; cf. Job 1:5. 33 St. Augustine, In Jo. ev. 80, 3: PL 35, 1840. The Catechism of the Catholic Church paragraphs 1223-1228 http://www.salvationhistory.com/Online/Advanced/OTinNTMatt.cfm compudex |
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5 | ...liars, shall have their part in.... | 1 Sam 21:1 | compudex | 102324 | ||
Hi George, Exo 1:16 "When you do the office..." - WHEN Exo 1:16 "...and see them upon the stools..." - when the baby breaches. Because they feared God they may have just not "done their office". Thereby saving the children. "for they are lively, and are delivered ere the midwives come in unto them." They waited until the birthing was over. The women weren't puny like the Egyptians and could birth without the midwives being there. A slap to the face of the king. Thus the blessing of the Lord. It doesn't say that they lied. Peace! |
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6 | ...liars, shall have their part in.... | 1 Sam 21:1 | compudex | 102334 | ||
Then I am at a loss why God would bless them. It is not out of the will of God to defy a king that wants them to commit murder. I should drop dead right now if I knowingly Play with the Word of God. "Scripture teaches the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth." Yes, and that is why this forum is here. So we can share and learn from one another. Peace to you! |
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7 | Might it be fear? | Prov 1:29 | compudex | 120754 | ||
Hi mommapbs, You are right, I should have followed Scriptual procedure. Guess I got psyched out! compudex |
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8 | Spirit or spirit? | Prov 5:21 | compudex | 101415 | ||
Hi Ray, I don't know for sure if this is what you are looking for. John 7:27 The people and Pharisees knew Him as Jesus of Nazareth, son of Joseph and Mary, not as Christ, Son of God. The phrase, "but when Christ cometh..." , shows that they did not believe that He was the Messiah. And that no man knew where the Christ was coming from. (even though it was described perfectly by the prophets of old). John 6:42 They were quoting Jesus here. John 9:29 Let's start at John 9:27 - if I tell you again will you be his disciples? Now this is where the pompous and arrogant attitude comes in. John 9:28 "Thou art his disciple; but WE are Moses' disciples." (I'm better than you attitude) John 9:29 (with attitude) We know Moses, not this guy. (paraphrased) And their attitude reached its climax in John 9:34, You sinner, how dare you teach us, WE being men of the cloth.(paraphrased) John 6:45 Quoted from the old testament : All be taught but not all will accept it or stay with it. As the children of Israel are proof of in the wilderness. 1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. Peace! |
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9 | Spirit or spirit? | Prov 5:21 | compudex | 101442 | ||
Again I find that on this forum people can't stick to their own subject without preaching. The original request was the comparing of scripture. Now you have turned it into a debate. Which do you choose? Plus, you have taken my words out of context. And you twisted my statement. I said, "I don't know for sure if this is what you are looking for." My statement had to do with the verses I listed in my last response to you. About the the (Man) and the (I) and the (He). You state you want to be His disciple. Well, what is holding you back? Peace! |
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10 | Spirit or spirit? | Prov 5:21 | compudex | 101493 | ||
Hi Ray, There is no contention here on my part. Writing posts and answers to some of the question on this forum, and with my limited ability as an orator, sometimes, is hard to convey the intent of thought. By the time the thought gets from the brain, out the finger tips and to the keyboard, some things get lost. I even flucked English in high school once. But, the Lord has been patient with me. In wanting to be His disciple, I would say, our passions will be realized as we grow. As a man sows, so shall he reap. Ah, now I'm preaching. :-) Peace to you! |
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11 | Spirit or spirit? | Prov 5:21 | compudex | 101618 | ||
Well, thanks for the A on my English. I did much better in college. Concering what you wrote: Matthew 13:54 "And coming to His home town...". That is the problem right there. They knew (H)im as (h)im, Jesus, son of Joseph and Mary. They watched him grow up. They watched him do the daily chores of living in a small town. They knew he was a good kid (no disrespect intended) and did what his 'father', Joseph, told him to do, but that is how they thought of him. Not as (H)im. To capitalize the words within the quotes of the townspeople would not be proper; grammatically, because it is a quote. That would be a misquote. Furthermore, it changes the meaning of what is conveyed by their conversation. Yes, He was a prophet in His home town, but to the people, He was just the man next door. (small m) Were they being taught of God? Yes, for He is God, but they did not know that. They have eyes and cannot see, ears and cannot hear. SCRIBES - The more highly esteemed the Law became in the eyes of the people, the more its study and interpretation became a lifework by itself, and thus there developed a class of scholars who, though not priests, devoted themselves only to the Law. We have a saying today, "The letter of the law kills". I wonder where that came from? All they knew was the letter of the law. I don't see anywhere in the Gospels where they (Pharisees) preached about the love of God or any rememberance of the kindness He showed to them in the wilderness or how, by His love for them, He delivered them from Egypt. A far cry from the psalmist David, a repenter. I would be careful in changing the meaning of the Scriptures. Something to keep in the back of your head also is that these people had been without a prophet for 400 years. Just look at what has happened in our nation in just 200 years. Where will it be in another 200 years if the Lord tarries? My, my!! |
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12 | Spirit or spirit? | Prov 5:21 | compudex | 101700 | ||
Part 1: Hi Ray, I don't know how many versions of the Bible you have so I have included 7 versions (Part 2). It is interesting to note that some of them don't even capitalize the first letter of the sentence. I do agree they were taking offense of Christ (H)im. And since the incident took place inside the synagogue, more than likely, those who spoke out, where the elders. Because they had a heritage, or lineage, inside the synagogue, being Rabbis. Jesus stood up and started teaching. How dare he speak to these people in this manner, he is only a peasant. Exactly, they took offense to (H)im. Verse 58 says "their unbelief" would be the clue to the foregoing theme to be conveyed. Also, if we capitalize son as in "carpenter's Son", then we would be inferring deity to the carpenter. Maybe it is that not all translators are lead by the Spirit! I personally take offense of the NASB for twisting quotes! Ray, I am no scholar, but I have been told the some of the original languages didn't even have capital letters in their abc's. Most of the capitalization of the Scriptures came from inference of meaning. I really cannot say if this is true because I can only read English, sometimes :-). Indeed, He was a Prophet in His home town! And they did take offense of Him! I also have a copy of the Greek New Testament, but it does not translate on this web site because the text box will not accept that kind of font. If you would like I can email these verses to you. Maybe you know someone that can read it. I don't know anyone. BTW: The best Bible program I have found with as many versions, commentaries and dictionaries you want for free. Very, very good! God bless them for not making a profit upon God's Word! http://www.e-sword.net |
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13 | Spirit or spirit? | Prov 5:21 | compudex | 101701 | ||
Part 2: NASB - New American Standard Bible Matt 13:54 He came to His hometown and began teaching them in their synagogue, so that they were astonished, and said, "Where did this man get this wisdom and these miraculous powers? Matt 13:55 "Is not this the carpenter's son? Is not His mother called Mary, and His brothers, James and Joseph and Simon and Judas? Matt 13:56 "And His sisters, are they not all with us? Where then did this man get all these things?" Matt 13:57 And they took offense at Him. But Jesus said to them, "A prophet is not without honor except in his hometown and in his own household." Matt 13:58 And He did not do many miracles there because of their unbelief. ASV - American Standard Version Mat 13:54 And coming into his own country he taught them in their synagogue, insomuch that they were astonished, and said, Whence hath this man this wisdom, and these mighty works? Mat 13:55 Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joseph, and Simon, and Judas? Mat 13:56 And his sisters, are they not all with us? Whence then hath this man all these things? Mat 13:57 And they were offended in him. But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honor, save in his own country, and in his own house. Mat 13:58 And he did not many mighty works there because of their unbelief. CEV - Contemporary English Version Mat 13:54 and went to his hometown. He taught in their meeting place, and the people were so amazed that they asked, "Where does he get all this wisdom and the power to work these miracles? Mat 13:55 Isn't he the son of the carpenter? Isn't Mary his mother, and aren't James, Joseph, Simon, and Judas his brothers? Mat 13:56 Don't his sisters still live here in our town? How can he do all this?" Mat 13:57 So the people were very unhappy because of what he was doing. But Jesus said, "Prophets are honored by everyone, except the people of their hometown and their own family." Mat 13:58 And because the people did not have any faith, Jesus did not work many miracles there. ISV - International Standard Version Mat 13:54 He went to his hometown and began teaching the people in their synagogue in such a way that they were amazed and said, "Where did this man get this wisdom and these miracles? Mat 13:55 This is the builder's son, isn't it? His mother is named Mary, isn't she? His brothers are James, Joseph, Simon, and Judas, aren't they? Mat 13:56 And his sisters are all with us, aren't they? So where did this man get all these things?" Mat 13:57 And they were offended by him. But Jesus told them, "A prophet is without honor only in his hometown and in his own home." Mat 13:58 He did not perform many miracles there because of their unbelief. KJV - King James Version Mat 13:54 And when he was come into his own country, he taught them in their synagogue, insomuch that they were astonished, and said, Whence hath this man this wisdom, and these mighty works? Mat 13:55 Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas? Mat 13:56 And his sisters, are they not all with us? Whence then hath this man all these things? Mat 13:57 And they were offended in him. But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, save in his own country, and in his own house. Mat 13:58 And he did not many mighty works there because of their unbelief. MKJV - Modern King James Version (notice not even quote marks) Mat 13:54 And when He had come into His own country, He taught them in their synagogue, so much so that they were astonished and said, From where does this man have this wisdom and these mighty works? Mat 13:55 Is not this the carpenter's son? Is not his mother called Mary? And his brothers, James and Joses and Simon and Judas, Mat 13:56 and his sisters, are they not all with us? Then from where does this man have all these things? Mat 13:57 And they were offended in Him. But Jesus said to them, A prophet is not without honor, except in his own country and in his own house. Mat 13:58 And He did not do many mighty works there because of their unbelief. WEB - World English Bible Mat 13:54 Coming into his own country, he taught them in their synagogue, so that they were astonished, and said, "Where did this man get this wisdom, and these mighty works? Mat 13:55 Isn't this the carpenter's son? Isn't his mother called Mary, and his brothers, James, Joses, Simon, and Judas? Mat 13:56 Aren't all of his sisters with us? Where then did this man get all of these things?" Mat 13:57 They were offended by him. But Jesus said to them, "A prophet is not without honor, except in his own country, and in his own house." Mat 13:58 He didn't do many mighty works there because of their unbelief. Peace! |
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14 | Spirit or spirit? | Prov 5:21 | compudex | 101732 | ||
Hi Ray, The website I told you about does not have that particular version (NKJ) that integrates with my program. And I do not have a hard copy of it either. That is why it was not included. My hard copy is the The New Chain Reference Bible by Thompson, KJV 1611. But, now I have to go and help my neighbor for the afternoon, as it is 1:30 here in Arizona. I will get back with you later this evening, probably late. Lord willing! Peace! |
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15 | Spirit or spirit? | Prov 5:21 | compudex | 101772 | ||
Hi Ray, Yes, I agree that diety should be capitalized. But, BUT, you CAN NOT change quotes! Jesus was not the Son of Mary, He was the son of Mary. The inference is a man talking about a man. Not a man talking about God. He, Jesus, was his neighbor as far as he knew. You CANNOT change what others say! Pretend, just pretend, you grew up with Jesus in the same neighborhood. You and he went for walks. You went to get water together. Now He preaches in the synagogue. What do you say? Isn't this the guy I fetched water with? Not isn't ths the Guy I fetched water with. You are adding diety to where these people didn't know He was diety. If you capitalize these words then it shows that they knew exactly who He was, and they didn't. He was the guy next door! Honestly, Ray, I think you are missing the context of the Scriptures. You know He is diety and I know He is diety but they didn't. And that is why WITHIN the quotes He is he, Son is son. You have to put these things in context as to who is speaking. I don't want to be rude Ray, but I think you are beating a dead horse. I still do not like how the NSAB has re-written these passages. BTW: The Living Bible, if you have one, check to see if they translated "virgin" (Mary, mother of Jesus) to a young woman. Now there is a piece of work. Peace to you! |
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16 | Spirit or spirit? | Prov 5:21 | compudex | 101801 | ||
Greetings Makarios, Thanks for the verses. Looks like this could turn into one of those endless geneologies. Have you been following Ray's and my thread? About to send another one. Peace to you! |
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17 | Spirit or spirit? | Prov 5:21 | compudex | 101802 | ||
Good, you caught it. "Now He preaches in the synagogue". Shouldn't that be he. Because in the pretend story I knew him, not as Him. Did Peter deny "Me" or "me"? Both. Peter denied Christ (Me) to himself. But to the his accusers, Peter denied the man. If Peter's accusers were followers of Jesus, Peter would have no cause to fear his association with Jesus. If the accusers were followers of Christ, the accusations would never have come. The accusation to Peter was, "You are one of this man's followers, this man ...this man that calls himself the Messiah. This man that our courts have found guilty of blasphemy. You are an accessory to his sedition." Thus the swearing comes forth from Peter's mouth, the cursing, trying to save his own skin. If Peter had conveyed the idea of Man rather than man the crowd, no doubt, would have stoned him. Yes, to himself, Peter denied the Man. The bitter weeping shows us that. But, to the crowd, he denied the man, for the crowd did not know the Man. As far as Jesus' words, ..."you will deny me...", now this is a different story. Was Jesus telling Peter that he was going to deny the divine Me or the human me? Yes, both. To himself, the Man and the man. To the crowd, the Man and the man. How bitter that weeping must have been. Picture the convulsions of Peter's body, hard to breath, eye lids smashed shut with grief, the tears and his runny nose gushing like water from a broken damn, unable to even stand and when falling to the ground, not even feeling it because of the guilt that now wrenches his aching body. To have been with the King of the universe for three years. To have been chosen by the Majesty on High to be the rock of His church. ... And I turned my back on Him. Oh, death were are you? Do what you will with the capitalization Ray. Peace to you! |
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18 | Spirit or spirit? | Prov 5:21 | compudex | 101837 | ||
Hello Ray, "In your pretend story, if you knew that He [sic] preaches in the synagogue, that is, you are being taught of God, can we agree that it is the same Person that you fetched water with?" Ah - that is the whole point, did THEY know they were being taught by God? "My question for you is, would you "count" the word carpenter's "son" as a word that is talking about Christ?" Yes, to us, because we know the ending to the story. But if we were back there in the synagogue with these men, no. He was just a man. The neighbor's boy. It is good to study. But put the pronouns in the context of time and who is speaking. It was a historical event. You can't change history. Peace to you! |
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19 | Spirit or spirit? | Prov 5:21 | compudex | 101926 | ||
Greetings! The points Ray puts across are very directed. And I understand his desire to give all the glory to Jesus. But I cannot understand this drive for pronouns. If he continues repling to me perhaps I will be able to get a clearer picture of what he is actually trying to accomplish. Peace to you! |
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20 | Spirit or spirit? | Prov 5:21 | compudex | 101974 | ||
Hello brother, You said: But you would say that THEY would say as did the scribes, Matthew 9:3, "And behold, some of the scribes said to themselves, "This fellow blasphemes." Yes. You said: But I would say as does the NKJ, "And at once some of the scribes said within themselves, "This Man blasphemes." If this was correct you would also have to capitalize "fellow". (1Co 1:12) Now this I mean, that each one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos: and I of Cephas; and I of Christ. (1Co 1:13) Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized into the name of Paul? In context they were saying that our group is better than yours. It was a vanity thing. Like today, "Well, I belong to the Baptist Church." "Well, we belong to the Church of Christ". "Well, we belong to the Full Gospel Church". In otherwords it is called PRIDE. It didn't have anything to do with a man, per say. It was a congregational thing. Thinking that one is better than the other. And Paul was telling them, "Hey, you guys, it doesn't matter who baptized you. You were baptized into the body of Christ and He is one. Why are you causing all this strife? Is this how we should conduct ourselves? Get your act together and preach Christ only!" NOTE: It should be noted for this forum the above mentioned churches are used here only for reference as to context of this thread and is not to be construded that there is one that is preferred over the other. You say: Can we divide God on the pages of Scripture and say, here he is a man, and here he is the Man? I say in Spirit No, but in contexual transmission of thought, Yes. Just as Pilate's change of thought about Christ: KJV: (Joh 19:5) .... And Pilate saith unto them, Behold, the man! This conveys that Jesus was just like any other human. KJV: (Joh 19:14) .... And he saith unto the Jews, Behold, your King! This conveys that Jesus was who He said He was. NOTE: Personaly, I believe Pilate was then converted. The versions of the Bible do vary and it is good to view these things. I told you before the Living Bible reduces the virgin Mary, to just a young woman. For the phrase, "young woman" does not mean she was a virgin. Thereby taking away from the meaning that Jesus was divine. Ray, are we trying to convert each other? I accepted Jesus as my saviour 10/22/72. Baptized 10/29/72 at the Full Gospel Lighthouse in Oak View, CA Baptized into one body! Now a resident of Tucson, AZ Read my bio if you like. Peace to you! |
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