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1 | explicate reason, mind, soul, will, fles | Bible general Archive 2 | armond888 | 128608 | ||
Actually your answer contradicts the following: 1 Cor 2:15 But the spiritual man tries all things [he examines, investigates, inquires into, questions, and discerns all things], yet is himself to be put on trial and judged by no one [he can read the meaning of everything, but no one can properly discern or appraise or get an insight into him]. 1 Cor 2:16 For who has known or understood the mind (the counsels and purposes) of the Lord so as to guide and instruct Him and give Him knowledge? But we have the mind of Christ (the Messiah) and do hold the thoughts (feelings and purposes) of His heart And yes Jer 17:9 is true but it is in reference to the old nature..not the new .. we are Born Again.. 1 Pet 1:23 You have been regenerated (born again), not from a mortal origin (seed, sperm), but from one that is immortal by the ever living and lasting Word of God. And we have a new heart.. that is NOT deceitful.. Ezek 11:19 "And I will give them one heart, and put a new spirit within them. And I will take the heart of stone out of their flesh and give them a heart of flesh, The new birth experience is fulfilling the above scripture.. Titus 3:5 He saved us, not because of any works of righteousness that we had done, but because of His own pity and mercy, by [the] cleansing [bath] of the new birth (regeneration) and renewing of the Holy Spirit |
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2 | explicate reason, mind, soul, will, fles | Bible general Archive 2 | armond888 | 128637 | ||
nope, nothing to fix.. the scripture is fine.. I was refering to his comment.. as we know God's Word is never in contradiction.. while on the other hand people depending on where they are in their walk with God may.. :)... none the less 2 Pet 1:20 But know this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of one's own interpretation, 2 Pet 1:21 for no prophecy was ever made by an act of human will, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God. |
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3 | explicate reason, mind, soul, will, fles | Bible general Archive 2 | armond888 | 128670 | ||
I would hope that neither of us intend to in anyway patronize the other on this topic or any topic.. I really think I may have mis-understood or interpreted the original post.. But in light of your comment " I may be too dense to grasp your argument very quickly"..I think I know where this is going so.. If you gentlemen feel your position is well represented then fine.. I have nothing to add .. |
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4 | Do all men belong to God? | Job 33:6 | armond888 | 131918 | ||
I should add.. your question is a somewhat ambiguous one .. since we know..Psalms 24:1, A Psalm of David. The earth [is] the LORD’S and the fullness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein.. Then yes all MEN are under God’s ownership and or sovereign rule..However I assumed you were referring to are all men OF God.. and again the answer would be no.. | ||||||
5 | Do all men belong to God? | Job 33:6 | armond888 | 132150 | ||
Hello Angel Thanks for the comment.. I am not saying anything I am simply listing scriptures in reference to the question.. I consider My own personal opinions worthless . .. The Bible speaks very well for itself.... 2 Pet 1:20 But know this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of one's own interpretation, 2 Pet 1:21 for no prophecy was ever made by an act of human will, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God I always say that If you read something and would like to know the intent of the author , you have to ask the author, anything else is only conjecture.. Fortunately for us we have the Holy Spirit and He will lead and guide us into all truth John 6:44 No one is able to come to Me unless the Father Who sent Me attracts and draws him and gives him the desire to come to Me, and [then] I will raise him up [from the dead] at the last day. John 6:45 It is written in [the book of] the Prophets, And they shall all be taught of God [have Him in person for their Teacher]. Everyone who has listened to and learned from the Father comes to Me--[Isa. 54:13.] |
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6 | Do all men belong to God? | Job 33:6 | armond888 | 132267 | ||
Ok let me list a few more scriptures that might bring clarity to the issue at hand. John 15:16 "You did not choose Me but I chose you, and appointed you that you would go and bear fruit, and that your fruit would remain, so that whatever you ask of the Father in My name He may give to you. Rom 9:11 for though the twins were not yet born and had not done anything good or bad, so that God's purpose according to His choice would stand, not because of works but because of Him who calls, Rom 9:12 it was said to her, "THE OLDER WILL SERVE THE YOUNGER." Rom 9:13 Just as it is written, "JACOB I LOVED, BUT ESAU I HATED." Rom 9:14 What shall we say then? There is no injustice with God, is there? May it never be! Rom 9:15 For He says to Moses, "I WILL HAVE MERCY ON WHOM I HAVE MERCY, AND I WILL HAVE COMPASSION ON WHOM I HAVE COMPASSION." Rom 9:16 So then it does not depend on the man who wills or the man who runs, but on God who has mercy. John 1:13 Who owe their birth neither to bloods nor to the will of the flesh [that of physical impulse] nor to the will of man [that of a natural father], but to God. [They are born of God!] Rom 9:18 So then He has mercy on whomever He wills (chooses) and He hardens (makes stubborn and unyielding the heart of) whomever He wills. Rom 9:19 You will say to me, Why then does He still find fault and blame us [for sinning]? For who can resist and withstand His will? Rom 9:20 But who are you, a mere man, to criticize and contradict and answer back to God? Will what is formed say to him that formed it, Why have you made me thus? [Isa. 29:16; 45:9.] Rom 9:21 Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same mass (lump) one vessel for beauty and distinction and honorable use, and another for menial or ignoble and dishonorable use? The references above address your question ..other that what is in black in white out of the WORD of GOD, I prefer not to comment. |
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7 | Do all men belong to God? | Job 33:6 | armond888 | 132379 | ||
I was not out to prove anything.. I didnt write those scriptures .. they are authored by the Holy Spirit..You had to completly ignore all the scriptures I listed to come up with your reply.. If you choose to ignore them , thats between you and the Lord.. I do hope this ends the discussion , debate or whatever it is.. 2 Tim 2:23 But refuse (shut your mind against, have nothing to do with) trifling (ill-informed, unedifying, stupid) controversies over ignorant questionings, for you know that they foster strife and breed quarrels. |
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8 | 2 verses different books KJV | Isaiah | armond888 | 193395 | ||
Also.. see below.. and there are many many more.. Joel 2:28 "It will come about after this That I will pour out My Spirit on all mankind; And your sons and daughters will prophesy, Your old men will dream dreams, Your young men will see visions Acts 2:16 but this is what was spoken of through the prophet Joel: Acts 2:17 'AND IT SHALL BE IN THE LAST DAYS,' God says, 'THAT I WILL POUR FORTH OF MY SPIRIT ON ALL MANKIND; AND YOUR SONS AND YOUR DAUGHTERS SHALL PROPHESY, AND YOUR YOUNG MEN SHALL SEE VISIONS, AND YOUR OLD MEN SHALL DREAM DREAMS |
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9 | once saved always saved? | Jer 32:40 | armond888 | 128575 | ||
Please know that I do not wish to cause a debate just think you should consider the following scriptures I have referenced.. Rev 3:5 'He who overcomes will thus be clothed in white garments; and I will not erase his name from the book of life, and I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels. If you can not lose your salvation there would be no need to say "I will not erase" Rom 11:22 Behold then the kindness and severity of God; to those who fell, severity, but to you, God's kindness, if you continue in His kindness; otherwise you also will be cut off. Saved eternally??? yes you will receive eternal life.. but you can be cut-off... Col 1:23 if indeed you continue in the faith firmly established and steadfast, and not moved away from the hope of the gospel that you have heard, which was proclaimed in all creation under heaven, and of which I, Paul, was made a minister. There are many more references but I pray you get the point and use reason.. The doctrine of eternal savation is a dangerous one indeed.. |
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10 | once saved always saved? | Jer 32:40 | armond888 | 128604 | ||
well again with my intention to strongly avoid debate ..or cause contention of any sort I respectfully say that this doctrine implies we can live anyway we choose and that is not the case at all. I leave you with this scripture reference and hopefully we can close the matter honorably , although we disagree.. to God be the Glory.. Col 1:22 yet He has now reconciled you in His fleshly body through death, in order to present you before Him holy and blameless and beyond reproach-- Col 1:23 if indeed you continue in the faith firmly established and steadfast, and not moved away from the hope of the gospel that you have heard, which was proclaimed in all creation under heaven, and of which I, Paul, was made a minister. James 3:17 But the wisdom from above is first of all pure (undefiled); then it is peace-loving, courteous (considerate, gentle). [It is willing to] yield to reason, full of compassion and good fruits; it is wholehearted and straightforward, impartial and unfeigned (free from doubts, wavering, and insincerity). |
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11 | Grace AND? | Matt 6:20 | armond888 | 120223 | ||
2 Tim 1:9 who has saved us and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to His own purpose and grace which was granted us in Christ Jesus from all eternity Eph 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; Eph 2:9 not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. Clearly we can NOT be saved through works.. however as a result of being saved .. our behavior changes so that we pursue works of righteousness that God has ordained that we should live out... Eph 2:10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them. James 2:18 But someone may well say, "You have faith and I have works; show me your faith without the works, and I will show you my faith by my works." 9 James 2:20 But are you willing to recognize, you foolish fellow, that faith without works is useless? 10 James 2:26 For just as the body without the spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead. |
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12 | Grace AND? | Matt 6:20 | armond888 | 120234 | ||
I will have to read your post.. I am late to this discussiom .. however , it is clear that works can not save you .. I am sure you agree that after you become a Christian or "Born Again" that one of the ways of recoginzing the transformation is through the evidence of fruits of righteousness . Matt 7:20 "So then, you will know them by their fruits. John 15:5 "I am the vine, you are the branches; he who abides in Me and I in him, he bears much fruit, for apart from Me you can do nothing. |
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13 | why was the thief saved without baptism? | Luke 23:43 | armond888 | 132242 | ||
Why was the thief saved without baptism...because God will have mercy and not sacrifice... when it was not possible for the thief to be Baptisted God had mercy and allowed the thief to be excused from the requirement..after all Jesus is LORD .. even of Baptism.. Matt 12:3 He said to them, Have you not even read what David did when he was hungry, and those who accompanied him--[Lev. 24:9; I Sam. 21:1-6.] Matt 12:4 How he went into the house of God and ate the loaves of the showbread--which was not lawful for him to eat, nor for the men who accompanied him, but for the priests only? Matt 12:5 Or have you never read in the Law that on the Sabbath the priests in the temple violate the sanctity of the Sabbath [breaking it] and yet are guiltless? [Num. 28:9, 10.] Matt 12:6 But I tell you, Something greater and more exalted and more majestic than the temple is here! Matt 12:7 And if you had only known what this saying means, I desire mercy [readiness to help, to spare, to forgive] rather than sacrifice and sacrificial victims, you would not have condemned the guiltless |
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14 | why was the thief saved without baptism? | Luke 23:43 | armond888 | 133106 | ||
You know , that is absolutely right..Thanks , although I was thinking the reference was about the baptism of repentence , or the Baptism of John that was being done during that time during Jesus's ministry but prior to His death and resurrection, making the way for Jesus.. Matt 21:25 "The baptism of John was from what source, from heaven or from men?" And they began reasoning among themselves, saying, "If we say, 'From heaven,' He will say to us, 'Then why did you not believe him?' 3 Mark 1:4 John the Baptist appeared in the wilderness preaching a baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins. Matt 3:1 Now in those days John the Baptist *came, preaching in the wilderness of Judea, saying, Matt 3:2 "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matt 3:3 For this is the one referred to by Isaiah the prophet when he said, "THE VOICE OF ONE CRYING IN THE WILDERNESS, 'MAKE READY THE WAY OF THE LORD, MAKE HIS PATHS STRAIGHT!'" Matt 3:4 Now John himself had a garment of camel's hair and a leather belt around his waist; and his food was locusts and wild honey. Matt 3:5 Then Jerusalem was going out to him, and all Judea and all the district around the Jordan; Matt 3:6 and they were being baptized by him in the Jordan River, as they confessed their sins. Matt 3:7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming for baptism, he said to them, "You brood of vipers, who warned you to flee from the wrath to come? Matt 3:8 "Therefore bear fruit in keeping with repentance |
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15 | How is the Holy spirit given to you | Acts 2:38 | armond888 | 231509 | ||
Correction, The Bible list Baptism (Baptism of Repentence) as a requirement for receiving the Holy Spirit. This answer was not something I found just convenient to say, it is based on scripture. You may want to qualify your answer with a scriture or two as well. | ||||||
16 | How is the Holy spirit given to you | Acts 2:38 | armond888 | 231516 | ||
Excuse any typos I did not proof We continue to disagree respectfully as you say. Men asked what do they need to do in order to be saved and the Peter under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit said Acts 2:38 Peter said to them, "Repent, and each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. Now why did Peter not leave out Baptism. Why did Peter not just say believe only as you claim. Because believing on Jesus is being repentent and includes water baptism. Repentence and water Baptism prepares the way for salvation. This is why John the Baptist declares He is preparing the way for the LORD. How was John preparing, through water baptism after realized repentence. No reprentance no baptism. Matt 3:7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming for baptism, he said to them, You brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee and escape from the wrath and indignation [of God against disobedience] that is coming? Matt 3:8 Bring forth fruit that is consistent with repentance [let your lives prove your change of heart]; The first thing Jesus did was get water baptised and then the Holy Spirit descended on Jesus. Guess someone should have told the Lord the water part was not neccessary. Or that water baptism can be held off for a later time because it really is unnecessary.. Jesus also told Nicodemus we must be born of the water and the spirit in order to become Born Again. Jesus answered, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. Another example. Acts 8:35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and beginning from this Scripture he preached Jesus to him Acts 8:36 As they went along the road they came to some water; and the eunuch *said, "Look! Water! What prevents me from being baptized?" Acts 8:37 [And Philip said, "If you believe with all your heart, you may." And he answered and said, "I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God."] Acts 8:38 And he ordered the chariot to stop; and they both went down into the water |
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17 | How is the Holy spirit given to you | Acts 2:38 | armond888 | 231517 | ||
I see nothing in your explaination that changes my understanding. I find that the Amplified Bible provides a proper translation. Matt 3:7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming for baptism, he said to them, You brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee and escape from the wrath and indignation [of God against disobedience] that is coming? Matt 3:8 Bring forth fruit that is consistent with repentance [let your lives prove your change of heart]; |
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18 | How is the Holy spirit given to you | Acts 2:38 | armond888 | 231519 | ||
BradK - Your statement concerning the Book of Acts is a narrative not intended for doctrine??? Perhaps you should consider the following: 2 Tim 3:16 All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; Seem to me that you are picking and choosing what is relevent or not in the Bible. |
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19 | How is the Holy spirit given to you | Acts 2:38 | armond888 | 231521 | ||
BradK Just want to make a few simple statements regarding your post. You have not read my post Properly. I never said Baptism was a prereqiusite for repentance. I said the exact opposite as represented by Acts 2:38 or 37? - All I did was copy paste the verse. Regarding using other scriptures, Romans for example. Guess i could have but I thought the one's I referenced were adequate since the Bible does not contradict itself. And I could ask you why did you not use Acts or the Gospels????Correction is a beautiful thing I appreciate your efforts although in this case I failed to see your point of view. I could easily go through the other letters by Paul with you to further prove my point but I see no profit in that exercise. I will stick with "Repent everyone and be baptised in the name of the Lord Jesus and you shall recieve the gift of the Holy Spirit." I know, it comes out of a narrative and therefore it does not count. |
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20 | How is the Holy spirit given to you | Acts 2:38 | armond888 | 231522 | ||
BradK We found something we agree on, the discussion is over. I never thought I was being dishonest ? Thanks for letting me know. No argument here just presenting a position that differs from yours. |
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