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1 | Visualizatin vs the bible | Bible general Archive 4 | YenIsaRap | 218448 | ||
Dear macsdawtr Are you asking about Visualization Techniques such as meditation, self hypnosis, yoga? Then very shortly in my opinion, "YES" they do conflict, they all come from Eastern religions, and are widely used in psychology, as treatment for things as pain,and stress management. Blessings YenIsaRap |
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2 | ... | Bible general Archive 4 | YenIsaRap | 218466 | ||
Dear Humility It isn't just the fact we see Jesus going in among the publicans and the sinners. "Why do you do it" was the question that was asked of Him by the Pharisee, they were judging the publicans as unworthy because they were sinners. The Pharisee concidered themselves as righteous. But in reality were they truly righteous? We become the Pharisee when we do the same as they did, (judging). The answer that Jesus gave to them is what we should base our ministry to others on, not the appearance. Matt.9:9-13 9 And as Jesus passed forth from thence, he saw a man, named Matthew, sitting at the receipt of custom: and he saith unto him, Follow me. And he arose, and followed him. 10 And it came to pass, as Jesus sat at meat in the house, behold, many publicans and sinners came and sat down with him and his disciples. 11 And when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto his disciples, Why eateth your Master with publicans and sinners? 12 But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick. 13 But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance. Luk 15:1-7 1 Then drew near unto him all the publicans and sinners for to hear him. 2 And the Pharisees and scribes murmured, saying, This man receiveth sinners, and eateth with them. 3 And he spake this parable unto them, saying, 4 What man of you, having an hundred sheep, if he lose one of them, doth not leave the ninety and nine in the wilderness, and go after that which is lost, until he find it? 5 And when he hath found it, he layeth it on his shoulders, rejoicing. 6 And when he cometh home, he calleth together his friends and neighbours, saying unto them, Rejoice with me; for I have found my sheep which was lost. 7 I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance. You are correct in saying They had been forbidden of the Holy Ghost to preach the word in Asia. You have also said "I should be willing to go where ever the sinners lodge but not unless the Holy Spirit bids me." Do you see the basic difference in these two occasions? The Apostles were willing to go any where, any time. The Holy Spirit had to forbid them to go to Asia, THAT IS BEING LED OF THE SPIRIT. Jesus has already told us to go minister. BEING TOLD AGAIN IS NOT BEING LED. Mar 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. There were no stipulations by Jesus put on that commission. When you are truly Led of the Spirit, He will speak through you, and He will cause a crowed to be around you to hear the Gospel, because you will have become a vessel fit for use in the Masters Kingdom. Be Blessed YenIsaRap |
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3 | Salvation for the Gentiles | Bible general Archive 4 | YenIsaRap | 219640 | ||
Dear Val Act 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. Salvation was not available to mankind, until the Atoning Sacrifice made by Jesus. What source have you used for your definition? "Salvation means believing God" Where would one find in the Bible, people were saved in this manner? "In the old testament people were saved by looking forward to the birth of Christ" Blessings in Jesus YenIsaRap |
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4 | Salvation for the Gentiles | Bible general Archive 4 | YenIsaRap | 219647 | ||
Dear Brad If you would, could you explain how was a Jew saved, prior to Christ's atonement, proselyte or not? Was it by the works of the Law? For as our beloved brother Paul has said. Rom 9:31,32 31) But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness. 32) Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone; Gal 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified. Gal 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. Heb 10:4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins. Heb 9:15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance. Blessings in Emmanuel YenIsaRap |
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5 | Salvation for the Gentiles | Bible general Archive 4 | YenIsaRap | 219649 | ||
Dear Brad I'm terribly sorry for my mistake, please excuse me. I was under the impression that the question was about Jews being saved, in some way before Jesus. But now I see the whole question was about, the Few Righteous people throughout the Bible like Abram. But wasn't he a non Circumcised Gentile at the time he was declared Righteous by God.? Your using (Rom.4) as your source, where the name is Abraham, in an account after the fact, take a look in the old Test. Gen 15:6 And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness. Gen 17:5 Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee. Were not all of the others such a Able, Enoch, Noah weren't they also of the Uncircumcision, (Gentiles). Then the rest, those that were in the loins of "Abraham". These are the ones that we can call Jews. Heb 11:12,13 12) Therefore sprang there even of one, and him as good as dead, so many as the stars of the sky in multitude, and as the sand which is by the sea shore innumerable. 13) These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. They died in faith of the promises to come, not having received them. But not in the Faith that is of Salvation. Blessings YenIsaRap |
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6 | Salvation for the Gentiles | Bible general Archive 4 | YenIsaRap | 219653 | ||
Dear Brad Sorry it is apparently my fault.:-/ You say "The OT saint looked forward to the Christ and the cross" But your only scripture that backs up your statement, is New Test. (John 8:58) And that is a statement made by Jesus about Himself, which does not saying anything at all, about the beliefs of the Old Test. Jewish Nation. The thing that is lacking, is the Old Test. scripture that states, there WAS SALVATION afforded to the Jewish People before Jesus became our sacrifice. The only thing they were given was the Law, which was to lead them to the knowledge they needed a Savior, because no one gains Righteousness by the works of the Law. Another scripture, that would shed a lot of light on this subject, would be the one that says the Jewish People were looking for a Savior, someone that would save them from their sins. They had the Law, that they believed they could keep. They had no need for a Savior. They were looking for a Messiah, the definition of which does not say (Savior). Anointed, Consecrated, King, or Priest, which is what the definition does say. (Strong's) You ask "Are you saying Jews were not saved in the OT?" "Yes" I have not to this point, seen any evidence to the contrary. When statements are made like VAL "In the old testament people were saved by looking forward to the birth of Christ." That requires a Scripture to back it up. Without Scripture, it is nothing more than a supposition, assumption. Could you answer these for me? 1) If you would, could you explain how was a Jew saved, prior to Christ's atonement, proselyte or not? 2) Was it by the works of the Law? Be Blessed YenIsaRap |
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7 | Salvation for the Gentiles | Bible general Archive 4 | YenIsaRap | 219661 | ||
Dear Brad Thank you for the time you have spent, nice discussion:-) Could you please, answer one more question if you would? Where, and When did this Theology, Doctrine, Belief originate, Who was the first one to put it into a comprehensive Teaching? I say Teaching because all of you haven't come to this understanding individually. There must be some book somewhere that has the thoughts of the original author. I am curious, as I would personally like to do, an in depth study on this subject, rather than debate it without the cohesive, contextual chain of thought, originally intended, by the author. Attempting to learn a subject through debate, would be likened to building a house, by starting with the blueprints for the second story, and completely omitting the Plumbing, and Electrical blueprints altogether. You have no Idea, as to how I have grown in the Lord, since my coming to the Forum, this has truly been a learning place for me, I fully believe the Lord led me here, and has stretched me greatly. As always Be blessed YenIsaRap |
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8 | Salvation for the Gentiles | Bible general Archive 4 | YenIsaRap | 219678 | ||
Dear Val Sorry, but the table has already been cleared. I don't know what I did to make you feel so much anger. I Humbly apologize, please forgive me? I did ask you two questions that you haven't answered as yet. If you do not like to be asked where your information comes from, then post it to start with. Otherwise I will assume you are just speculating on the issue being discussed. We should always strive to provide the appropriate scripture, thereby lending credence to our statements. Col 4:6 - - - Eph 4:29 Blessings And a Merry Christmas to you too YenIsaRap |
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9 | Salvation for the Gentiles | Bible general Archive 4 | YenIsaRap | 219683 | ||
Dear Val Yes there is a need to apologize, I'm sorry, for whatever it was, I did it unintentionally. 1) What source have you used for your definition? "Salvation means believing God" 2) Where would one find in the Bible, people were saved in this manner? "In the Old Testament, people were saved by looking forward to the birth of Christ" I have taken note that, within your profile you say. "You have a certificate for vacation bible school when I was one year of age." While you may think that your profile is appropriate, it does not give any information at all about your background. There isn't any information from you, that would allow anybody to measure how detailed an answer needs to be for you. I feel an answer should be given that would answer the question, rather than attempting to answer to a persons intellect. Including scripture where necessary, to verify, or even to speak the truth that is being put forward. It is better to let God do the work, for which His word is sent. He is fully capable of teaching the hearers. I am only assuming that by saying background you meant, Church affiliations I have had, or do have now. As well as my Theological, and Doctrinal Beliefs, maybe even what Teachers, Authors I admire. Are those the things you mean, I should consider placing in my profile? Then consider it considered:-) Be Blessed YenIsaRap |
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10 | Women are to be silent? | NT general | YenIsaRap | 218358 | ||
Dear AWilliamson Thank you for the reply. I agree with everything you have stated, sorry if I gave the impression women are inferior. If you have come to that conclusion by my statement "from the beginning, woman was not created equal" I posted that belief because of the scripture I cited. Gen 2:18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. She was created as a help meet for the man. A help meet does not have equality as far as I am concerned. This does not mean he should Lord it over her, but in this context we are talking about husband and wife, not men and women in general. Man on the other hand was created for fellowship with God, but that doesn't make him equal with God does it? Let me ask you then. Has God given authority, and responsibility in the same measure to woman as He has man? Is the woman ever a spiritual covering for the man? When is woman ever put into the position of taking responsibility for man? (brackets are mine) 1Co 11:7-10 7 For a man indeed (ought not to cover his head,) (forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God:) (but the woman is the glory of the man.) 8 (For the man is not of the woman;) (but the woman of the man.) 9 (Neither was the man created for the woman;( (but the woman for the man.) 10 For this cause ought (the woman to have power on her head) (because of the angels.) Andrew I may have misunderstood you, when you wrote. "women should have head-coverings in church gatherings" (1 Cor 11) As you can see, the scripture is not talking about literal head coverings such as Hats. If you disagree please explain the meaning of v.10 You are right about the extra-biblical additives, but it is very difficult to say anything and not use them. We are in agreement God Bless YenIsaRap |
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11 | being deprived | NT general | YenIsaRap | 219695 | ||
Dear CDBJ Excellent post, very well done. 1Th 5:11 Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do. Giving direction to the Lord, where he will reveal Himself, is what should be done. Walk in His Love YenIsaRap |
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12 | being deprived | NT general | YenIsaRap | 219706 | ||
Dear CDBJ You have managed to peak my curiosity as to why, you would be really anxious to read something of my personal profile ? On the grounds that up to my post to you yesterday, I have only posted to you 1 other time. Let me if I may, help to blow away the clouds of confusion, that have so easily beset you. The reference made to Matt., which has caused your confusion, was in direct conjunction, with my only other reference in Matt. Honestly figuring they would speak to the issue, in that I have let my posts, and my overall conduct, while on the forum speak for themselves. To defray any darkness you may still dwell in, regarding this matter. I have continually striven, to walk in the light which I have been given, that is the teaching we have all received, is it not? Has not my Father been Glorified? Having endeavored to conduct myself, not only in accordance with the TOU. but more importantly with the teachings of Jesus. Have I failed in these my efforts? There are some, that find it easy, to use the Sacred Scripture, as a weapon, rather than, for the use of edification of a brother. Gal.6:7 Please accept my apology, for any difficulty I have caused you, this was not my intent. I pray the time I have taken, will dispel your distress, making your life a little easier. As Always Be Blessed YenIsaRap |
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13 | being deprived | NT general | YenIsaRap | 219712 | ||
Everyone having displayed so much interest in my, optional profile, thank you for your understanding in this matter. The only words I find adequate to express my feelings at this moment are. I love you all my brothers, I Bless each, and every one of you, and you will be in my prayers. May God Bless You Richly YenIsaRap |
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14 | Free Will | Gen 1:1 | YenIsaRap | 218872 | ||
Dear Doc In my endeavor to define (free will) for the purpose of qualifying my question. I submit the following definitions on the grounds, they have been the definitions most widely used in the study of the bible. I concede the definitions used, are in relation to human beings, for there are none for angels, but for the purpose of further discussion, and understanding. I ask that these be accepted as valid definitions for the purpose for which they are to be used. If you have definitions for these two words, that would be better suited for this discussion, I ask that you submit them so that they could be used in place of the ones I am posting. The words themselves, and their definitions are part of the reason the question was asked in the first place. Free: Strong's no. G-1658 Unrestrained (to go at pleasure), that is, (as a citizen) not a slave (whether freeborn or manumitted), or (generally) exempt (from obligation or liability): - free (man, woman), at liberty. Will: Strong's no. G-2307 A determination (properly the thing), that is, (actively) choice (specifically purpose, decree; abstractly volition) or (passively) inclination: - desire, pleasure, will. Thank you for your reply Be Blessed YenIsaRap |
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15 | Free Will | Gen 1:1 | YenIsaRap | 218914 | ||
Dear Doc These two statements 1.) Lost men may choose to do and be all those things which comprise their nature. 2.) Saved men may choose to do and be all those things which comprise their nature. Are you saying? 1.) Lost men cannot choose to do good, because it is not in their nature? 2.) Saved men cannot choose to sin, because it is not in their nature? Gods Love YenIsaRap |
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16 | Heb. 6:4-6 Security | Gen 1:1 | YenIsaRap | 219803 | ||
Having endeavored to lay this out as concisely as possible. Placing it into a format, by which each verse could be examined by each of it's individual parts. Starting from the position, ( A True Believer in Christ ) cannot ever, lose their Salvation. In other words, Eternal Security, or Once Saved Always Saved. This position would, and has to also include, any possibility, of Intentionally walking away, or Unintentionally losing it. The believers spoken of in these verses of Hebrews, are True Believers in Christ. With that being the premise, how then is Hebrews 6:4-6 Interpreted ? There are only two logical conclusions, that can be arrived at, for understanding these verses. 1) The believers spoken of, (can fall away, and can never repent again). If this belief is true, then Eternal Security, is a false doctrine. 2) The believers spoken of, (will never fall away) impossible. If this belief is true, then Eternal Security is true, but why, how ? What is that one determining factor, tipping the balance one way, or the other, causing one of these two beliefs to become true, or false ? The "IF" used in vs.6, is most certainly a Hypothetical, it has to be, on account of what Paul said in vs.4. By his use of the word "IMPOSSIBLE", which moves us to an inevitable position, where the "IF" used in verse 6, has to be stated, in order to clarify the entire teaching. Paul's use of the word impossible, forces his use of the "IF", which is a Hypothetical. With that impossible, there is no other recourse, but a Hypothetical. There is no way, to "MODIFY", or "MITIGATE" an "IMPOSSIBILITY". I want to make it perfectly clear at this point. In the case of this being a Hypothetical position that Paul takes in vs.6, it does not in any way, make everything he was teaching in vs.4,5 become a Hypothetical also. With the word impossible being used here by Paul, instead of looking at the end of the teaching, the focus shifts to the beginning. He makes his case for everything in vs.4, 5 summarizing everything in the 6th. by showing what the consequences would be, ("IF"), because of the "IMPOSSIBILITY". Section 1 Heb 6:4 1) For it is impossible 2) for those who were once enlightened, 3) and have tasted of the heavenly gift, 4) and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 1) "HOW" far reaching is "IMPOSSIBLE" for the believer ? 2) "WHAT" is a believer enlightened to ? 3) "WHAT" is the heavenly gift ? 4) "HOW" are believers made to be partakers of the Holy Spirit Section 2 Heb 6:5 1) And have tasted the good word of God, 2) and the powers of the world to come, 1) "HOW" have believers tasted the good word of God ? 2) "HOW" have believers tasted the powers of the world to come.? Section 3 Heb 6:6 1) If 2) they shall fall away, 3) to renew them again unto repentance; 4) seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. 1) "WHY" does Paul use the word "IF" ? 2) "What" would make a believer fall away ? 3) "What" would they not be able to repent of "AGAIN" ? 4) "What" was The Son of God crucified "FOR" ? Section 4 These last three questions are the most crucial of all the ones asked. 2) "What" would make a believer fall away ? 3) "What" would they not be able to repent of "AGAIN" ? 4) "What" was The Son of God crucified "FOR" ? With the belief, God only calls those that are the Elect, Predestined. Does he do so, for them to then lose the gift of Grace, or walk away from it ? |
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17 | Heb. 6:4-6 Security | Gen 1:1 | YenIsaRap | 219832 | ||
Everyone would agree, Scripture should Interpret Scripture. This piece of Scripture Heb. 6:4-6 stands by itself, with its declarations. These verses say what they say, therefore any Interpretation of them, cannot be accomplished by placing another piece of Scripture along side them, which say the same thing. This then means, they need to be understood for what "they" say. These verses in Hebrews, do not say, anyone fell away, that is a false assumption. This first misunderstanding, then causes another assumption to be made, which would be, the ones being spoken of in these verses, were not saved to begin with. ie, Not True Believers. When these verses say the complete opposite. So then we have come to a totally Illogical, Logical conclusion. Is there anywhere in these three verses of Hebrews, where it even alludes to a person that is not Saved? This is where, and why discussions of Scripture get complicated. It has been said, speak only where the Bible speaks, and to keep silent, where the Bible is silent. This appears to be one of those times, where silence would be golden. At this point, if God did not give further details. That would then mean, God expects us to understand what He has revealed. Shouldn't we be content to learn from it, all that it clearly does reveal, without adding our own speculation, and assumption to this biblical text. This then is what is being dealt with. As per my original post on this topic. Heb 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, Just by the mere fact the verse starts the way it does, makes it abundantly clear, the people that are being spoken of "Are True Believers". Then in the following verse. Heb 6:5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, This is but a continuation of the attributes the believer acquires from God. Culminating with the "IF" in v.6. Heb 6:6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. As you can now see, it is clearly stating the people that are spoken of in verses 4,5 cannot fall away, (IMOPSSIBLE). The entire three verses are stating only "one" immutable fact, nothing else, no addendums. "IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR A TRUE BELIEVER TO LOSE THEIR SALVATION" |
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18 | Creation of Angels | Ex 20:11 | YenIsaRap | 218875 | ||
Dear John Are we told by Moses in the following verse that (Heaven, Earth, Sea and all that in them is.) were all created within the six days? Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is. Since there is the account from Job 38:4-7 it is therefore understood that Heaven, and the angels were created first, but are we to assume it was within the six days of creation? If we have the understanding, that God created everything in a literal six days, and according to Moses, Heaven was created at that time, aren't we then constraining God to TIME? Brother Yen |
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19 | Creation of Angels | Ex 20:11 | YenIsaRap | 218876 | ||
Dear Brother Tim Thanks for your reply You are right of course, I hadn't thought of that. "OOPS " I was concentrating on the 6 days thereby getting lost. Could you then make a comment on the question. If according to Moses, God created Heaven, and Earth within the 6 day period of time, does this mean, there were no Angels until the first day of creation? God Bless Yen |
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20 | Have I messed up with Jesus? | Ex 30:13 | YenIsaRap | 218686 | ||
Dear Edd I am truly sorry Edd but that is not what the scripture says, just read the context of the statement. There is no mention of an ending of animal sacrifice at all. Christ's Crucifixion did not bring an end to the animal sacrifices, but the destruction of the Temple did in 70ad. But rather in verse 29, we see a definite explanation as to what blood is spoken of, as far as a sacrifice is concerned. These verses speak of people that willfully turn their back on Gods Grace, and return to a life of sin Heb.10:26,29 26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? Blessings YenIsaRap |
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