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1 | Does the Holy Spirit work differently? | Bible general Archive 2 | Sir Pent | 115002 | ||
One possible difference………………………….. Another forum member previously directed me to the passage in Galations 4:1-7. It speaks of how we who have accepted Christ are “sons” instead of merely “servants”. It also says that because of this God sends the Holy Spirit “into our hearts”. There is no passage in the Old Testament that contains the specific phrase “into our hearts” when referring to the Holy Spirit. So perhaps this is a difference between how the Holy Spirit worked in the Old and New Testaments. Perhaps entering “into our hearts” is the new method that the Holy Spirit uses. What do you think? |
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2 | Adultery is Sex Before Marriage? | Bible general Archive 2 | Sir Pent | 117185 | ||
Refferal to another thread....................................... I agree with Lovelyladycpb that the act of sex goes beyond the physical and actually unites two people as one in the eyes of God. However, I disagree with her implication that it is therefore fine and dandy for unmarried people to have sex. Please type in the number 114024 into the "Quick Search" box at the top right corner of the screen. This will take you to a post of mine giving more detail and a good discussion on the matter by many forum members. |
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3 | 2 co-habit or not 2 co-habit | Bible general Archive 2 | Sir Pent | 119291 | ||
Personal Note............................................. Hi Bill, I think that you have made a wise decision and one that is honoring to your relationship with God. It is best for you to not live in the situation you first described. |
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4 | can you give some scriptures? | Bible general Archive 2 | Sir Pent | 119796 | ||
Defense of my position......................................... Hi BradK, I appreciate both your and Tim Moran's opposing viewpoint, and actually agree with you that suicide is not an unforgivable sin. I believe that if a person somehow survives suicide, they can indeed repent to God and be forgiven for it. However, if the person does not survive, then they cannot be saved. This is not because their sin is so terrible, but simply because a person cannot be saved who is in denial of God at the time that they die. I think that you and I would both agree that if a person dies in a state of denial of God's essential character then they cannot be saved. Therefore, the disagreement is simply over whether we believe that the person committing suicide is denying God or not. As I stated in my previous post, a person who commits suicide (assuming mental capability for rational thought) is making a decision based on several beliefs. They believe that their present situation is beyond God's ability to help them through (denying His power) or that He does not want to help them (denying His love). They also deny that He has a plan for the rest of their life (denying His word in Jeremiah 29:11). Do you have any other way to see this than a denial of God? |
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5 | can you give some scriptures? | Bible general Archive 2 | Sir Pent | 119802 | ||
Personal Note............................................. Hi Hank, Ha, ha :) You are very correct. A person couldn't survive suicide. I should have said survived a suicide "attempt". This reminds me of one of my favorite movies called "It's a Wonderful Life". There's a line in there that says suicide is illegal around these parts. However, I wonder what the punishment would be considering the person would already be dead? |
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6 | How dangerous is the Tongue? | Bible general Archive 2 | Sir Pent | 120429 | ||
Personal note........................................................ Hi Rowdy, I don't really want to jump into this discussion, but I couldn't help but notice that you quoted the verse that my user name is derived from. Thanks for making me smile :) |
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7 | The Doctrines Please? | Bible general Archive 2 | Sir Pent | 127450 | ||
Personal note …………………………………………………… Hello again EdB, I must admit that I am somewhat hurt by your response to my post. A person asked a question about what topics to avoid talking about in order to not offend the unwritten rules of this forum. I simply tried to answer that question, since I’ve been here long enough to know what those unwritten rules are. Then you question why I am even here. I understand that this is a Bible Study Forum. However, in studying the Bible people are naturally going to disagree at times as to what it means and how they should apply it. Therefore this forum will naturally have discussions (or debates) to try to come to understanding. As for why I am here and keep coming back, I think that there are two main reasons. The first is that I really like the people here (including you). I have a lot of respect for the core members of this forum (Tim Moran, Makarios, Charis, Emmaus, Kalos, Searcher, EdB, Hank, etc.) and appreciate reading their thoughts on what the scriptures mean. There are times that I have questions about certain passages or ideas, and I believe that there is a lot of wisdom in this group of people. I also appreciate their ability to approach these issues rationally. And on occasion there is even a little side conversation that can be enjoyable as well. The second reason that I keep coming back is because I see so much potential for this forum. I keep checking back to see how much of that potential is being realized. Once again, I think that the people are here to make this one of the best resources on the entire Internet. However, there are some organizational problems that can be frustrating (limited search abilities, limited ability to follow threads due to lack of headings by most users, limited ability to talk about certain subjects that are considered off-limits, etc.) But overall, I find that the good outweighs the bad and makes this forum a place that I consider to be worth my time to visit and contribute to at times. As for your choice, I would like to be part of the solution :) |
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8 | The Doctrines Please? | Bible general Archive 2 | Sir Pent | 127521 | ||
Personal note......................................................... Hi Hank, It's good to talk with you again, and I'm glad that you're keeping cool in Arkansas. I recognize that you have been with the forum since almost the very beginning (5 months longer than myself). I understand that you don't think that there are "unwritten rules" here on the forum. However as you mentioned, infinite discussion is not permitted. If a thread goes on for too long, the participants are asked to stop posting to it. That rule is not written anywhere that I know of, yet it does happen. You also mentioned that viewpoints are allowed as long as they do not "foster divisiveness, push denominational biases, result in ad hominem insults, deny the authority of Scripture or the deity of Christ, denigrate orthodox Christianity, etc." These rules are stated on the forum, which is good, however they are applied inconsistently. For instance, the subject of Predestination and Free Will is a denominationally biased subject that can lead to divisiveness and these threads are always restricted. But the necessity of Baptism for salvation is also a denominationally biased subject that can lead to divisiveness, yet these threads are often not restricted on this forum. This indicates that there are unwritten rules of applying the general stated rules. I appreciate your suggestion to bring my "organizational" suggestions to the Lockman Foundation's attention. However, I don't think that they have much interest in my ideas. I made many suggestions almost 3 years ago, none of which have been implemented. These included deleting duplicate posts, combining similar posts, limiting initial responses to questions, staying on topic, requiring a consensus statement for each thread, allowing symbols, adding a spell checker, adding a chat room, and labeling posts with headings. For reference please see post #'s 17840, 17951, 18277, 18278. Thanks again for all your dedication to this forum and the time and effort that you put into it. You won't know until heaven how many people's lives have been helped by your input here. |
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9 | The Doctrines Please? | Bible general Archive 2 | Sir Pent | 127524 | ||
Personal note.......................................................... Hi EdB, It is good to talk with you again as well, even if we are having a bit of a misunderstanding at present. Your post (127443) that was somewhat hurtful to me was addressed specifically to me. In that post you said you wondered why someone who was dissatisfied with the forum would keep coming back. Since the post was addressed to me and since I have just recently "come back" to the forum after being away for a few months, I naturally thought you were referring to myself. Then you made the comment that people should either be part of the solution or get out of the way. Once again, since the post was addressed to me and since the earlier comments seemed to be directed at me, I naturally thought that you were saying that I was not being helpful and so should not continue participating here. Then in your last post you asked why I would claim to be hurt when there wasn't anything to hurt me. This seems to question my honesty, as if I would claim to be hurt when I wasn't really. I hope that you can see that your responses to me thus far since my return could easily be understood to be attacks on me personally and therefore hurtful. I hope that this is all simply a misunderstanding and that you did not intend your statements to be read in the way that they came across, and would appreciate some clarification. |
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10 | The Doctrines Please? | Bible general Archive 2 | Sir Pent | 127525 | ||
Duplicate Post....................................................... Hi EdB, I accidentally responded to your other posting of this which can be found below. |
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11 | The Doctrines Please? | Bible general Archive 2 | Sir Pent | 127548 | ||
Personal Note.......................................................... Hi EdB, Thanks for your clarification. I gladly accept your apology and am relieved to discover that I was misunderstanding your post to be directed towards me. I was overly sensitive. I have been here off and on for almost 3 years now, and have posted over 600 times. Yet I still feel that there are those on the forum who still view me as an outsider and have less grace with my posts than is given to others here. Perhaps I am again misunderstanding what others write, but that feeling probably impacts my sensitivity here. May we both be patient with each other as we continue to study God's word and try to apply it correctly to our lives :) |
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12 | book of barabus | Bible general Archive 1 | Sir Pent | 13954 | ||
I had never heard of this book, however, I found a site on the internet where you could go read it (and other texts) if you like. From what I could find out, the text was only discovered in the 1900's and was translated and published in 1908. It was never included in the Bible, and has been surrounded by controversy almost ever since it was discovered. I hope this helps out. http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Ithaca/9429/TextsandDocumentsC.html |
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13 | May I share a simple story to help? | Bible general Archive 1 | Sir Pent | 15133 | ||
Dear EdB, I wish that I could claim authorship of this story, however I am not that creative. I also wish that I could let you know where it comes from , however my memory is not that good. It is one of hundreds of stories I have heard in sermons, prayer meeting devotionals, chapel services, etc. Feel free to use this story in a class, or anywhere else that it will help. As for my user id, I regret that you aren't a big fan of it (you are not alone), but perhaps my profile will help explain why I chose it. |
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14 | May I share a simple story to help? | Bible general Archive 1 | Sir Pent | 15154 | ||
I am not referring to any specific passage, but rather to an overall philosophy of interpreting scripture. You make the correct point that anytime ideas are put into words, there are rules regarding how they are to be written and read (grammar, etc.). My point is that these things are very basic, and able to be easily understood by the general population. I have a fundamental believe that the Bible is God's Word, and as such, He is responsible for keeping it accurate and understandable. Therefore, through all the translations, and changes in culture, I believe that God has caused His Word to transcend these things. I also believe that God gave the Bible to humanity at large, and not to small groups of the highly educated (to interpret for the masses). I have found in the past, that knowledge of certain cultural customs, or ancient language information has helped me to see some interesting points. However, I believe this knowledge to be unnecessary for understanding of the Bible. The vast majority of people have not had this information, and I don't think that God would so limit His audience. |
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15 | May I share a simple story to help? | Bible general Archive 1 | Sir Pent | 15279 | ||
The main problem that I have with this theory is that it is a very static and limited view of the Word of God. If the Bible was just like any other "ancient book", then the points would be entirely valid, and there would be many gaps to fill. However, the Bible is not at all like any other "ancient book". Instead it is the living, breathing, Word of God. I believe that God has personally maintained this Word throughout changing languages, cultures, geographies, and history. Therefore, there are no gaps at all. But rather there is a book which God speaks through to people today, just like He did 2000 years ago. |
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16 | When did God's inspiration stop? | Bible general Archive 1 | Sir Pent | 15396 | ||
I think we might be getting a little off of the original question of this thread. Would you guys mind if we start a seperate thread focusing on the inspiration of the Bible, past and present? | ||||||
17 | When did God's inspiration stop? | Bible general Archive 1 | Sir Pent | 15398 | ||
I think we might be getting a little off of the original question of this thread. Would you guys mind if we start a seperate thread focusing on the inspiration of the Bible, past and present? | ||||||
18 | How inspired is the NAS Bible today? | Bible general Archive 1 | Sir Pent | 15463 | ||
Dear Joe, When it comes to the idea that present day versions are still inspired by God, there are a couple of obvious questions that come up. You address one very well. Are all of the versions inspired, and if not how can you tell them apart. I think that discussing the relative authority of different versions would be best suited by a seperate thread. But I would generally include major versions (ie. KJV, NKJV, NASB, NIV, NRSV, etc.) translated by groups (thus excluding individual efforts like "The Message", which are not intended to be translations) of Christian scholars (thus eliminating the Mormon, Jehovah?s Witness, and other cult versions). |
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19 | How inspired is the NAS Bible today? | Bible general Archive 1 | Sir Pent | 15466 | ||
Dear Schwartzkm, You seem to indicate that you feel that the present versions are "inerrant", but are not "inspired". I believe there is a seperate thread discussing inerrancy of scripture, and I would prefer not to repeat that in this thread. Therefore, let's assume (as you and I both seem to believe) that scripture is inerrant. My question would be, how would it be possible for current versions of the Bible to be "inerrant" without the inspiration of God? In other words it seems inevitable that left in the hands of mere men, copies and translations of the originals would have to contain errors. Honest mistakes and even changes made to reflect individual's theology would over time change and mess up the Word of God. Since we both assume that the current versions are inerrant, how do you explain that this was possible aside from the direct hand of God? |
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20 | How inspired is the NAS Bible today? | Bible general Archive 1 | Sir Pent | 15467 | ||
Dear Tim, When it comes to the idea that present day versions are still inspired by God, there are a couple of obvious questions that come up. You address one very well. How can versions contradict each other or have mistakes and yet be inspired. This could lead into a discussion of inerrancy of scripture, which I believe already has a thread dedicated to it. However, I would generally say that in most cases the contradictions are not actually contradictions at all. I also believe that any mistakes or true contradictions which may remain would not be of any significance to the message which God is expressing. I think that we are probably actually closer to agreement than we think since you mentioned that you also believe that the message is authoritative. I would ask you though, how can this be without God's inspiration? In other words, if the translations are just the work of men, then what makes them any different than a commentary? Yet we don't hold commentaries to be authoritative, but only helpful. |
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