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1 | The Sons of God in Genesis 6:1-4 | Genesis | Servant7 | 31079 | ||
Greetings in the Lord, Sadly, my brother, you can light a persons foot on fire, and they will refuse to address it. Traditions are often the controling factor, and not the Word of God. Alot of the confusion is created by the notion that Seth's line was Godly and noble. This simply was not the case. Seth's line (aside from Noah), perished in the flood. This whole mess is created by a missed translation of Gen 4:26. "Then men bagan to call upon the name of the Lord", is incorrect. "then men began to profane the name of the Lord", is a more accurate rendering. I attempted to share this in other posts, and was met with sarcasm, and disdain; hardly what I expected from my family in Christ. While there is no one hundred percent guarantee that this is refrenceing angels, it certainly is not speaking of Seth's line. Some other "heavenly Bodies"? Only the Lord knows. This is not salvation issues, but might have great importance in the end days. What Deceptions is Jesus Refrencing in Matt 24:4? Does Matt 24:37 shed some light on this? Let us not forget that the word "nephilim" also means "fallen ones". Check out the root word "Nephal"; "to fall, be cast down, to fall away, desert". What does this mean? Let me know what you think. These Nephilim are obviously not done.(Matt24:37). This is the difference from Noah's time to know? Tell Me what you think brother. In Christ, Servant7 |
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2 | The Sons of God in Genesis 6:1-4 | Genesis | Servant7 | 31112 | ||
Greetings in The Lord, JMan, If you will briefly review my post to Decipled, you will find I stated "aside from Noah". The plurality of the phrase "sons of God" in Gen 6 is what i am refrencing. They all did perish in the flood (again, aside from Noah). Only 8 individuals were found worthy not to perish. And again I say, "Heavenly Bodies" does not refer to a man ever in the word; Therefore, to assume it does now is also cojecture. I wholeheartedly disagree with you on this topic, but my love for you brother, goes without saying. You truly seek to enlighten through the word, by diligent study. That is the heart of a servant. As always a pleasure, In Christ, Servant7 |
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3 | The Sons of God in Genesis 6:1-4 | Genesis | Servant7 | 31115 | ||
Greetings in the Lord, That's one of the funniest things i've read on this post. Please keep them comming:) In Christ, Servant7 P.S. Do you suppose your point was missed?:) |
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4 | The Sons of God in Genesis 6:1-4 | Genesis | Servant7 | 31218 | ||
I confess I have never considered the direction you take in I cor 11...Provocative:) I will definetly devote some time to this inference. I believe The deception we are continualy warned about definetly will employ some of the tactics that were employed in the days of Noah. Next comes the question...What is the one thing we are missing to be as the day's of Noah? Perhaps Nephilim? The rest you have written on I will seek prayerfully and through the word. After all:) "Wisdom comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God"(papaphrased). I am preparing for some college papers, so please give me a little time to get this one back to you, it requires study. Another individual who is well studied on this topic is "decipled". Check out a few of his posts on this topic. In Love, Your's in Christ, Servant7 |
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5 | The Sons of God in Genesis 6:1-4 | Genesis | Servant7 | 31221 | ||
Heavenly Bodies would be the literal translation of "Bene Ha Elohim". Study a little deeper and you will find the time line from Gen 6:2 to the flood was 120 years. Study a little more and tell me how long you believe a generation was pre-flood. As we look into Gen 6, we will naturally see that Noah was probably alive throughout this time. Read the last verse of Gen 5.The word covers Noahs geneology in verse 10 of Gen 6. The only purpose Gen5:32 could possibly serve is to set a time frame for Gen 6. Let us not forget that the translators added chapters and verses for readability. The original Hebrew did not. Take out the word Chapter(6) out of your Bible, read chapter 5 and 6 through, and you will recieve a feel for how it is written, and it's context. I've truly come to enjoy your responses brother; I look forward to your next post. In Christ, Servant7 |
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6 | The Sons of God in Genesis 6:1-4 | Genesis | Servant7 | 31311 | ||
Decipled, Greetings in the Lord, You are not in left field.I have found a trait that saddens me on some of these postings. You will give out information, and the individual you are in correspondence with will not (or appear not) to even look into your refrences. You will give Hebrew or Greek words to deepen the search, and be accused of basically trying to be an Elitest. I have had the pleasure of sitting in studies with you personally, and had us both take debates to the word to seek the truth. I know your heart is to have the best understanding possible within human capacity, and then share with all you can. Again you are not in left field. Salvation is what is important here, you and I have agreed on that since the day we met. But this issue we are constantly in debate with others over will be an issue in days to come. The Nephilim are not done. The root of the Nephilim is not finished. The interpretation you are inferencing is the most scripturally accurate. Unless we are missing the knowledge of a "Heavenly Body" species, the truth is right before us. What these individuals are battleing is not us(their brethren), but the bondage of their own traditions. I hope they will allow the Lord's words to "read into" them, before the time of this "deception" comes. It's always better to prepare for a battle before it starts. You do not want to go into battle without your sword(the Word-Eph. 6), and not learning to properly use this sword(Word) does not bode well for the coming battle. In Christ, Servant7 |
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7 | The Sons of God in Genesis 6:1-4 | Genesis | Servant7 | 31409 | ||
Peace be unto you in the Lord, The Lord Bless you; for always I find kindness In your postings. "butt In"???, You cannot posibly butt in where you are always welcome. Matt 11:28-30. There's just something about this verse that humbles me to the core. The God of our universe is addressing some of the most beautiful words the universe(and beyond:))has ever heard. Because God is God, you know He was directing this to each one of us individualy. So precious are You oh Lord...So worthy of our praise!!!!! In Christ Love Fountain, Servant7 |
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8 | The Sons of God in Genesis 6:1-4 | Genesis | Servant7 | 31410 | ||
The same logic could be applied to The Sons of God being the line of Seth. Thank the Lord we do no lean on our own logic:) In Christ, Servant7 |
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9 | The Sons of God in Genesis 6:1-4 | Genesis | Servant7 | 31413 | ||
I do not question your education level. Yet our education is nothing next to the simplicity of the Gospel. I only say this to humble all who would lean on their own understanding(myself included). I am in persuit of my own degree, and it is easy to get caught up in personal intelect. We have only to look at Solomon, and remember the example of Paul( who was the equivelent of a PhD) to know that our own Wisdom can get us into trouble. I would encourage all to excersise a little more "ExeJesus" and a little less "Exegesis". Until We share again JMan, May the Lord richley Bless you in All, In Christ, Servant7 |
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10 | The Sons of God in Genesis 6:1-4 | Genesis | Servant7 | 31485 | ||
Hank the first part was simply a joke, I thought perhaps to lighten the mood would be good. As far as your second "rebuke", search out who Paul's instructer was. He is not only in the bible, but historically, one of the greatest minds in the old world. I'll give you a hint, his name starts with a "G", and you might find him in the book of Acts. Pauls equivalent was to a PhD in theology. Your not going to find it matches course for course, yet this was his level. Yet as to the point I was makeing, Degrees and schooling, avid study, and worldly knowledge mean nothing next to the gospel of peace. So, Paul's education meant nothing(the point of the former post). And Paul did write under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit...hence, it "meant nothing(degrees) Try to do a little more study before you attempt to put down someone else's post. Sometimes we attempt to kick mud on a brother and find we have fallen in the puddle ourselves. You have my love in Christ, Brother, Servant7 |
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11 | The Sons of God in Genesis 6:1-4 | Genesis | Servant7 | 31685 | ||
I would never presume to be dogmatic on something such as the education level of Paul. This is clearly a perception issue, due to the fact that the word does not say. We know how man's history can be flawed. Again, Paul's education level is my personal inference. other's feel the same, other's take it different. One thing you are totally right about is the fact that Paul's education did not play any true factor in the bible, it was irrevocably under the influence of the Holy Spirit. I have had much "mud" slang on me on this board for simply trying to share. From what you said in your last post, this is not what you were doing. In humility, I apologize to you, My Brother. I look forward to the next time we share in peace. Wether on the same side of the issue, or not, I remain your loving brother through our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. In humility, Servant7 |
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12 | The Sons of God in Genesis 6:1-4 | Genesis | Servant7 | 31686 | ||
Once again, you reach out to Love another of the brethren. We can all be humbled by this. May the Lord richly bless you:) In Christ, Servant7 |
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13 | The Sons of God in Genesis 6:1-4 | Genesis | Servant7 | 31687 | ||
Greetings in the Lord. Noah supplied that link. Noah is from the lines of Seth. In Christ, Servant7 |
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14 | Are the "sons of God" pre-Fall children? | Gen 6:2 | Servant7 | 30444 | ||
Greetings in the Lord, The angles that fell with satan, are the "sons of God" being refrenced here. The marvelous thing about our English translations are that they are translated. The Hebrew word being used here is "Bene Ha Elohim". This word, every time used in the Tanak refrences angles. ( Job 1:6, 2:1, 38:7, to name a few). I hope this helps, In Christ, Servant7 |
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15 | Are the "sons of God" pre-Fall children? | Gen 6:2 | Servant7 | 30489 | ||
Greetings in the Lord, Matthew says angles are not given in marriage, it does not say they cannot. The debate rageing over "sons of God" in Genisis need not rage, Moses, when writeing Genisis did not say "sons of God", he said "Bene Ha Elohim"(Hebrew), this word refrences heavenly bodies, not humans. The only other time this word(s) in Hebrew is used in the Tanak(old testament) is in refrence to angles. Angles are "created" beings, but let's not forget, a whole group of them fell with Lucifer, by this logic, that wasn't possible until it happend. Sons of God is again stated this way in Job. I encourage you to seek this out, pray about it, then you and i will share our findings together. Always in Christ, Servant7 |
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16 | Are the "sons of God" pre-Fall children? | Gen 6:2 | Servant7 | 30581 | ||
Greetings in the Lord, If the lines of seth, at the time of Gen 6, were so holy, why 120 years after this fact was the world destroyed in a flood??? only 8 people out of the "noble" lines of seth remained faithful after 120 years??I would suggest all people who truly are seeking after truth test their "traditions" vs. the word. This sad stretch of I Tim 5:21 is exactly why a topic much be researched, and diligently prayed over before it is introduced as doctrine. This section of scripture is the form of an oath about not prefering one brother before another(elders/witnesses, not that angles cannot fall from grace. Jesus did not come in the form of an angle and die, He came as a man. Therefore, angles do not have grace. Consequently, elect here better translates as chosen. Chosen or elected for what? A statement or oath being made before them as a witness? perhaps angles that did keep their first estate. The Bible shows that angles have physical bodies, look at the angles at Sodom and Gahmora, they were physical. An angle one night had dinner with 185,000 samaratins before decimateing them. Oh heck, we have entertained angles unawares. Demons seek embodyment, angles have bodies. Fallen angles, were still angles...therefore, they are as physical. Here is something else to chew on, through scripture prove Angles and Demons are the same. one has a body...one seeks embodyment. There's that tradition again. Further more, why would the lines of seth, lay with the daughter's of men be big news? That's been going on since the garden. By the way... the daughter's of men, I hate to break this to you, is translated a little to loosely. The Hebrew word used here is "Benoth Adam". Better translated, "Daughter's of Adam".Seth is from Adam also. Why would this need be stated here? In closeing, I never stated Moses wrote Job...I do believe he wrote Genesis however. I actually believe there is a possibility that Job is a pre-flood book. This is due to alot of conditions, and animals that are spoken of in this book. One thing we do know though, is Job was actually pened before Gen. Even though Gen is an earlier progression, but The Lord is quite mysterious like that. Brother, I took on the same Joking tone with you, but please realize, as a brother, I hold you in the highest respect. Jesus is the Blood that flows between you and me, and we are the same body. Something i wasn't going to share at this point, but I feel called to.Gen 4:26 is mis- translated, the scripture does not read "Then began Men to call upon the name of the Lord", it actually infers profaneing the name of the Lord. If you think I am Mistaken, please seek this on your own. There was a time I held the same view as you. In Christ Always, Servant7 |
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17 | Are the "sons of God" pre-Fall children? | Gen 6:2 | Servant7 | 30592 | ||
The Lord Bless You, In future posts I will use simpler language, I do not mean this as a dig, but my point was quite clear. A scripture like I Timothy 5:21 cannot be used to denote angles are under grace, the term there is actually chosen. Bible 101- Always read scriptures, even chapters at times, before and after a scripture to gain true context. My response was to your point of view, not your scripture refrence, since your attempt to work those scriptures into your view is obviously contrived. I humbled myself to you then and I shall now. We are brothers in the shed blood of our redeemer, And rude posts such as the one you sent me here can only divide. reread what i wrote, a few times, there is validity to this. Let Me start over again for us. Hello my brother, it is blessed to share this board with you, and your company. In Christ, Servant7 |
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18 | Are the "sons of God" pre-Fall children? | Gen 6:2 | Servant7 | 30595 | ||
This is why i generally write, and try to refrain from typeing:) I am a "hack" of a typer, if you listen closer, you will hear it...clank, clank, clank. On a serious note, When i type for college, i employ my spell check, sadly, I cannot find one here on line. In Christ( and humbled:) Servant7 |
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19 | Are the "sons of God" pre-Fall children? | Gen 6:2 | Servant7 | 30597 | ||
Jesus Man, I did not call angels "sons of God", The translation does. Let us not forget the Tanak (old testament)was not written in english, it was Hebrew. The word there and in Job is Bene Ha Elohim. In Christ, Servant7 |
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20 | Are the "sons of God" pre-Fall children? | Gen 6:2 | Servant7 | 30600 | ||
Show me one verse that says the lines of seth were the ones who begat the Nephilim in Gen6. That is a type of logic that can be turned around. One thing is for sure, aside from noah and his family, the lines of seth were not on the Ark. In Christ, Servant7 I would love to have a shareing of ideas that does not denote sarcasm, perhaps we can all pray, and come back to this in humility. It is not for the Body of Christ to seek division, but unity. In Christ, Servant7 |
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