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1 | Does God love his adversaries? matt.7:12 | Ex 23:22 | Giam | 46506 | ||
Thanks Steve! So since God loves sinners, John 3:16, Romans 5:5-8, sinners who are who do iniquity, God must mean this: "You hate the sin of hating who u love in all who do the iniquity of hating who u love. " NASB Psalms 5:4 For You are not a God who takes pleasure in the wickedness of the sin of hating anyone; In fact U take no pleasure in the death of the wicked because U lvoe the wicked: ezekiel 18:23-32. only those who hate the wocked take pleasure in the death of the wicked! No evil of the sin of hating any one or anything dwells with You. 5:5 The boastful in hate of the humble shall not stand before Your eyes; You hate the sin of hating anyone in all who do iniquity while at the same time U love the iniquiters/sinners. 5:6 You destroy with Love those who speak falsehood in hate of the truthful; The LORD abhors in Love of horrors the man who sheds the blood of them whom he hates with the deceit of hate. "These 3 negatively phrased descriptions in Love follow 3 directly stated affirmations in Love. This reveals God's perfect and supreme standard of the Justice of Love for both the just and the unjust both in principle and in practice" (p. 746, MacArthur Study Bible, Word Publishing, 1997). Ps 7:11 KJV "God judgeth the righteous with Love, and God is angry in Love with the wicked every day." Gos is always angry in love for the people with whom he is angry, and so He sins not, for to be angry in hate with anyone wd be to sin! matthew 5:21-22 and Ephesians 4:26 God Loves us and so is only angry with us for cause and so that anger in Love is shortlived! God loves us and so is always pleasant with us for no cause! Only those hwo hate others are angry without any cause: I am not angry with u: I just don't like u! Those who hate others have longlived anger with others for cause, and the root of the bitternees of hate takes root again! Rom 5:1 ASV " Being therefore justified by faith in Love, faith which works by love, Galatians 5:6 we have peace in Love with God through our Lord Jesus Christ;" The sinner may think he is not at war with God, but God is most certainly at war in Love with the sinner, Love being the true basis of peace. Peace in hate or with hate is coldwar or uneasy peace! Proverbs 16 4 The LORD hath made ALL THINGS for himself: yea, EVEN THEB WICKED for the day of evil. 5 Every one that is proud in heart IN AHTE OF THE LOWLY is an abomination to the LORD: though hand join in hand, he shall not be unpunished. 6 By mercy and truth iniquity is purged: and by the fear of the LORD men depart from evil. 7 When a man's ways please the LORD, he maketh even his enemies in Hate to be at peace with him IN LOVE. And how do we please God? Hebrews 11 6 But without faith... which works by Love, Galatians 5:6, it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is ...Love and in Love, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him in love. And how r we to seek him? Jeremiah 29 13 And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart/Love. See? "*peace in Love with God.* Not only a subjective, internal sense of calm and serenity, but also an external, objective reality. God has declared Himself to be at war IN LOVE with every human being because of man's sinful rebellion IN HATE against Him and His law OF LOVE (Rom 5:10; compare Rom 1:18; 8:7; Ex 22:24; Deut 32:21,22; Ps 7:11, John 3:36; Eph 5:6)" (p. 1700, MacArthur Study Bible, Word Publishing, 1997). Hope that helps when put in Love! Looking fwd to your feedback! l and r, giam |
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2 | Does God love his adversaries? matt.7:12 | Ex 23:22 | Giam | 46641 | ||
Hank! Thank u for reminding me to slow down! sigh I am so sorry! I don't ahve alot of time but I so enjoy writing on the bible that i get carried away! Yes, my native language is English, the Queen's no less, Scottish no less! smile And u are right and said it well: i do write in a cryptogrammic shorthand that makes it hard to decipher or decode! The crypt or code is Love, and the short-hand is in Love! So the context of all my posts is only and always Love for all words and their opposites! And that means that each word is atomic: each word is loaded with Love and so with everything else! So let me rewrite it by beaking it down and by splitting the atoms of my words in the long hand of Love! smile Notice how many more words i ahve to use! "You God hate the Sin of hating anyone or any thing who U God love, which is a sin because, since U love all persons and all things, THE first sin is to hate anyone and anything, and this sin of hate for anyone and for anything IS obviously in all who do the iniquity/sin of hating any person U God love or hating any thing U God love!" "The LORD is horrified out of Love at the man who, with the sin of Hate for those whom he kills, which sin of hate God hates, sheds the blood of them whom he hates while deceitfully pretending to love them." Hope that helps. Now this will help u too: Because God obeys His own Supreme Law, The Law of Love, God MUST do everything in Love, with ONE exception! So God wrote every word in the Bible in Love, in the code of love, if u please! John 10 35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the Scripture CANNOT BE BROKEN; Therefore to me, the Bible is God's Code Book, written in the Code of Love, in God's secret code of Love! See? So without reading it in Love for all the words, the Bible's code cannot be broken, and the Bible won't and so cannot be understood because it can only be understood, decoded by Love, translated in Love, not by Hate! see? So all the words in the Bible can only be understood as to WHAT they mean when we also OBEY that first Supreme law and then read The Bible in Love! Aha! So when we understand that Love is God's supreme Law is when we can undertand that when, for instance, God abhors, He is horring, or is horrified ab:out of Love for the word horror! Whereas because we normally, as mistaught, hate the word horror, when we read God abhors, we imediately translate that in our minds to mean God HATES what or who he is horrified at! See? So believing in hate, the actual first sin, as if it were right and not a sin to hate horrors, we swallow the camel and so must THINK and strain at the gnat that whoever or whatever God is horrified at MUST be the sin! See? One more example: Hank, have u ever wondered why God rejected Cain's sacrifice and accepted Abel's? Ah! Can u now figure it out? I am sure U can! If u want to try, do not read the rest until u do and then u can compare! Ok? If not, read on! Cain was a farmer and so loved farm produce, fruits, veggies, etc, but he HATED bloosdhed which he wd have to do if he kept sheep! So it was his attitude of mind that was wrong: the attitude of Love or Hate is waht is the FIRST thing in the mind! That sin of Hate for shepherds and for the shedding of blood is waht lay at the door of Cain's mind BEFORE he even offered his sacrifice! See? And there was NOTHING wrong with his Firstfruits! See? Now hank, u know a little more about why and how I write ... like I do! And thanks to u, others will understand me better! And most important: I love myself as a carper and as indelicate and at sea, and so I genuinely love and respect u as an indelicate carper at sea as myself! smile See? Love works! smile Looking fwd to your feedback, delicate or carping or at sea, and as all their opposites, is all ok!! smile Loving and Respecting me as confusing and as misunderstood, and so loving and respecting all who are confused and misunderstand, I remain, Giam |
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3 | Does love or hate sinners? matt 5:43-48 | Ex 23:22 | Giam | 46677 | ||
Steve! Thanks for your answer! Good try! smile Based on this: Yes, God loves sinners, as shown by these two verses. John 3:16 (ESV) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. Romans 5:8 (ESV) but God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. then when God says He hates evil deeds and those who reject His love, He must mean this: Proverbs 6:16-19 (ESV) There are six things that the Lord hates, seven that are an abomination to him: [17] haughty eyes in hate of the humble, whereas God is proud in love of the humble. Matthew 3:17 a lying tongue in hate of the truth, whereas God speaks the truth in love of liars. Ephesians 4:15-16. and hands that shed innocent blood in hate of the guilty, whereas God sheds innocent blood in Love of the guilty.Romans 5:5-8. [18] a heart that devises wicked plans in hate of the wicked, whereas God devises wicked plans in Love of the wicked,I saiah 28:9-13. feet that make haste to run to evil in hate of the evil, whereas God makes haste to run to evil in Love of the evil people! Deut 32:39. Isaiah 45:7-8. Romans 12:19.Rev. 2:5. [19] a false witness who breathes out lies in hate of the accused, whereas God breathes out the truth in Love of liars. Ephesians 4:15. and one who sows discord among brothers in hate of His brothers, whereas God sows discord among brothers in love of the brothers. genesis 11:6-9. And so he must mean that He hates the sin of hate in those who reject Him! For He rejects them with Love while rejecting with hate their sin of hate! Which is just like Luke 14:26: Wne God uses the word hate for anyone and for anything except for sin when it maeans the sin of hating anyone or anything, He always means: To love less by comaprison in Love! The greek word is miseo! In malachi 1:2, the wrod is sane which means the same as miseo as used in Romans 9:13! John 3:36 (ESV) Whoever believes in the Son who is God who is Love and so believes in Eternal Agape-Love has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son who is God who is Love, and so does not have Love shall not see life, but the wrath of God in Love remains on him. Correct! Love and Respect, giam |
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4 | Do u know what this means? Matthew 12:7 | Ex 23:22 | Giam | 46682 | ||
Steve! So we are agreed in Love! I do wholeheartedly agree with that only if we agree with Scripture that the Holy Spirit is the one who teaches us (John 16:13-14). John 6:45 Story done! And hey, do u see how u say in a few words all that I say in so many more words! smile Love u, Giam |
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5 | Do u know what this means? Matthew 12:7 | Ex 23:22 | Giam | 46690 | ||
Kalos! Thanks for your interest in helping me! First of all, I love harsh people because i love myself as harsh! That Love for me as harsh means that whenenver i am harsh I am harsh in love! The love smoothes the edges of my harshness! And so when u think i am harsh, even when I am not, I wd in Love accept your appraisal because i understand that I cd look so! So if the sound in your your tone was harsh, it is being taken in Love by me! Now if the tone wa harsh to u, the only problem wd be if u hated being harsh! For then the tone of any words that may sound harsh to u wd be harsh in hate instead of harsh in Love! See? Now: I normally in Love do NOT write: Thsi verse means to me! I normally write in Love what it means! But I did that because I in Love did not want to come over as authoritative or setting myself up as if my meaning was the only meaning! See? But if u want me to speak with authority, let me accommodtae u in love! This verse means: Flippancy is dealing with Scripture in hate of all the other meanings except the one u think it means! (Kalos: The tone of the following may sound a bit harsh but it is all in Love like how God is forward or rude in Love with those who are rude in Hate of being rude and so end up in hate whenever they are rude! Psalms 18:25-26. I have no wish to hurt you with hate or to be harsh with you in hate. But if I hurt, I hurt with love: for Love has in itself and so wd supply the healing for any hurt! I merely quote someone else in Love. My desire for you is that you may prosper and be in health, even as your soul of Love prospers. giam) t b continued: Grace in Love to you, Kalos, giam |
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6 | Do u know what this means? Matthew 12:7 | Ex 23:22 | Giam | 46691 | ||
kalos1 Here we go with the rest! "Avoid superficial interpretation which is interpretation with lots of hate and with with little superficial Love that only scapes the surface and just below the surface as in surfing. Smile The one common problem in interpreting the Bible is this little phrase, "This verse means to me....." Let me tell you something in Love for what u believe. It does matter what it means to you as long as u also love what it does NOT mean to you, and so the question would always be to you what would it mean if you didn't love as God loves? What would it mean if you didn't love as God loves: Loves his friends the angels and loves His enemies the demons? For the demons believe that God exists and tremble because they hate who they believe in! What does it mean in Love period is the issue, not what does it mean in hate to you. "Sometimes you'll hear people get together and supposedly have a Bible study which is little more than a pooling of ignorance because it is in Love of wisdom coupled with Hate for being ignorant! Only people who love being wise and love being ignorant wiil eliminate their real ignorance: their ignorant attitude: and so admit their ignorance and so get the riches of the wisdom of God that is hidden in Love! Coloss 2:1-3. People say, "Well, I look at this verse and I feel this verse is saying this in hate of what I think it doesn't say!" It doesn't matter what you feel, what matters is your first feeling: your attitude: is Godly Love or Satanic Hate? That Love or Hate has everything to do with it. It's not a matter of how you feel about the verse, it only matters if your attitude is right! It's not a matter of what you think it means to you, it only matters if your first thot, your attitude is correct! Avoid the Adlibbing of using any mis-Hate in Bible interpretation. Avoid the free wheeling attitude of Hate in Bible interpretation. Avoid the Haphazard of Hate for any words of The Word in handling of God's Word. "We all want to acknowledge the priesthood of the believer... yes, we all want to acknowledge that we have anointing from God, the Spirit of The Love of God who dwells within us and the Spirit of the Love of God who dwells within us is the teacher who teaches us. We all want to acknowledge that. So we with Love understand that the lack of that Love which results in the presence of Hate is justification for flippancy dealing in hate with Scripture! So we remember that such were some of us, and so we who are spiritual in Love try to bear the infirmities of the weak and try to restore such ones with the spirit of Love, considering ourselves lest we are also tempted! galatians 6:1 That's why in 1 Timothy 5:17 it says, "The elders who labor hard with the Word of Love in the words of the Scripture are like Hiumpty-Dumpty, working words double with double-ease and so are worthy of double honor." It is hard work made easy with Love.Mattew 11:28-30. So avoid the superficiality of Hate in interpretation. Avoid "this means to me in hate of any other meanings." The hate in that phrase is not a statement that should preface any interpretation of Scripture. The question is, what does it mean if you don't exist with Love for the non-existent? What did it mean in Love before you were born? And what will mean in Love it after you're dead? What does it mean in Love to people who will never meet you? What does it mean in Love period, is the issue." (John MacArthur at www.gty.org/Broadcast/transcripts/90-157.htm) Looking fwd to hearing from u! Loving u as right, Loving me as wrong, giam |
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7 | Does God love his adversaries? matt.7:12 | Ex 23:22 | Giam | 46713 | ||
Kalos, Thank u! And becuase it is true that God is Love, Love is God's first or greatest attribute, for Love is the Word God obeys, and is waht re-confers Holiness on God since he first confered Holiness, Himself, on it by saying that HE IS Love! So since God is love and Love is the God that God worships, see His Supreme law which he obeys: matthew 22:36-40, Love takes precedence over everything else, and is his Holiness as decreed by he Himself! I am sure u know: 1 john 4:8, 16 and 1 corinthians 13:13: The greratest of these is Love! Right? Love and respect, giam |
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8 | Can i give u what i don't have in me? | Ex 23:22 | Giam | 46776 | ||
Kalos! Wow! Wonder of Wonders! And having carefully read the 15 words of your post, all I want to say is: May God bless u! Hey, what am i saying? God has already blessed u! smile Love and Respect, Giam |
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9 | How old was Jesus when the Magi brought | Matt 2:16 | Giam | 46211 | ||
Songbird! Ur point is well taken! Naz. is way up north! But this still makes sense: God's whole point is to be vague so that all points of view are reasonable! Proverbs 25:2-3. It IS hard to beleive that Joseph and Mary wd go back up to Naz, and then flee all the way back pass Jerusalem and beth! altho they CD have done so along the sea coast! But Luke 2:39 and matthew 2:11: pais in the house: are there. Or it CD be that all of Matthew 2 occurred between the words 'Lord' and 'they' in Luke 2:39!!!! which wd mean that Joseph, Mary and the young Pais went straight from wherever in the house was to Egypt and then returned to nazareth!!! Any view that is reasonable is just that: we still can't be totally sure! I personally go for what i said before in Love and in respect of all other views! In which case they fled to Egypt even tho in Naz because God knew that Herod wd send his homicide-killers way up there to kill this new king that threatened his rule! See waht i mean? Love and Respect, Giam |
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10 | How old was Jesus when the Magi brought | Matt 2:16 | Giam | 46217 | ||
Songbird! Just 2 other points for the nazareth to egypt and back trek: 1. If Jc was in nazareth when the wise men visited him, then it wd have been very easy for them to escape home back east, since they wd not have had to back down south to jerusalem. 2. God had the prophecy of Hosea 11:1 to fulfill by sending jc into egypt no matter how inconvenient it wd have been for them to by pass jerusalem along the the sea coast. see matthew 2:15. Hope that helps. Love and repsect, your biC, Giam |
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11 | Does not All hang on Love? mt 22:36-40 | Matt 6:24 | Giam | 46479 | ||
Hi Tim! Great, we have some agreement! smile And i know u disagree with me without being disagreeable as to the Love and Resepct we are to have for both those we agree with and with those with whom we disagre! Right? smile So Steve, can't u both Love and in Love serve Satan resistance, James 4:7 while at the same time serving Love and obedience to God by in Love obeying God who commands us to love Satan as your enemy, and so serve resistance in Love for Satan? Doesn't Satan flee from Love since he is not in Love like God is? James 4:7. When we hate him, are we not locking him in when we think we are locking him out because he is into hate? 2 Timothy 2:25-26. Since Satan is God's enemy/opposite, won't Satan be trying to get us to disobey God by hating Satan rather than loving Satan as God commands, so that we wd be resisting him with hate and so be sinning anyway due to the Satan-obeying-God-disobeying hateful rather than the God-obeying Satan-disobeying loving attitude? In other words, is it not by Loving who God says to love that we can serve God as our only Master no matter how many other masters we have or not? So for example, am I not serving God and the other master who compels me to go one mile, when I obey God as my Master by loving that other master, and also when I obey that other master by not only going one mile in Love but two in Love? Matthew 5 41 And whosoever IN HATE shall compel thee to go a mile, go IN LOVE with him twain. and so obey God by loving the other Compelling master and so in Love obey that Compelling-Master by going the one and the two miles? Is not Hate in any obedience for whom I obey make my obedience be evil spoken of? Is not doing right in a DESPISING ATTITUDE mean that i am right in the wrong attitide of sin of hate for whom I do right? Luke 18 9 And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and DESPISED others: Is not hate in obedience to anyone master or more not mean that I am obeying Satan rather than God who commands me to lvoe all masters? Is not Love that we are to serve first, as per God, to all masters and servants no matter what else we serve, resistance to Satan or obedience to the Compeller? Does not Love for all masters and for all servants make us all Master-servants and Serving-masters like Christ was? Matthew 20:26-27 What do u think? Looking fwd to more agreement! smile l and r, giam |
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12 | Does not All hang on Love? mt 22:36-40 | Matt 6:24 | Giam | 46501 | ||
Hi Meusing! God commands us to love evil people, matthew 5:43-48, and to hate the evil of the sin of hating the evil people who God loves! 1 john 3:4 See? God is Love and so in Love when he does ecverything except when He hates sin which is when he is in hate! He speaks the truth in love! Ephesians 4:15. and He walks in love! ephes 5:2 Now, Being full of Love and being in lvoe are different ways of saying the same thing! So when God is full of Love, he is also in Love! And when we are full of Love, we are also in Love! So when we are full of Love, God lives in us, and when we are in Love, we are living in God! Here it is: 1 John 4 16 And we have known and believed the Love that God hath to us. God is Love; and he that dwelleth in Love dwelleth in God, and God in him ...WHEN he is full of Love. see? because God is Love, it is In Him or in Love that we live and move and have our being! Acts 17:28 See also john 17 for more examples of being in Love and or full of Love: John 17 21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. 22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: 23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect IN one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me. 24 Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world. 25 O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me. 26 And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the Love wherewith thou hast loved me may be IN them, and I IN them. Hope that helps. Your comments are eagerly awaited! l and r, giam |
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13 | Does not All hang on Love? mt 22:36-40 | Matt 6:24 | Giam | 46541 | ||
Hi Meusing! Thanks for your input! Love is the first emotion that loves all the other eomotions, that is why Love is also an attitude! So we are to be happy in Love and sad in Love, and angry in Love and pleasant in Love, etc.. See? Galatians 5:22-23, ephesians 4:26, 1 corin 13:1-13, Ecclesiastes 3:1-8 Love is God's attitude of mind: in which Love he thinks, in which love he speaks, in which love he writes/wrote the whole Bible and in whcih love he acts all his will! Philippians 2:5, John 15:9, Matthew 22:36-40. So r we to follow His example! I cor 14:1. Hope tha thelps. l and r, giam |
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14 | Does not All hang on Love? mt 22:36-40 | Matt 6:24 | Giam | 46653 | ||
Hi Meusing, Thank u for your input. Agape Love includes Eros Love: so all Eros is agape, but not all Agape is Eros! Just like all new yorkers are american, but not all americans are new yorkers, see? And u r right: God defines what Love is! And so guess waht? Because God IS everything, and He commands Himself to agape-love everything He is, Matthew 22:36-40, guess what Love is? Everything! Just like God is! Now u know why and how God IS Love and so the Word Love is God! Just like U are Meusing and Meusing IS you! smile Love is the Word, the Dabar, that God obeys! So God defines Love, and so wahtever God is, Love is! So since God is everything and God is Love, Love is everything! Just like in math: i am sure u r good in Math: if a is b and b is c, a is c! So one guess as to what Word was in the begiining with God? The Word Love, of course! That is why and how: John 1 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word WAS God. Yes, Jesus Christ is also The Word, John 1:12, and that is also why and how He is also God and is also Love! Whoa! So JC is everything too just like God and love are! see? Sorry about that exwife who died as a result of the misjudgment of that unjust judge in Canada! That judge is unjust because he only loved the just but hated the unjust, only loved the victimiser but hated the victim, and only loved relasing people but hated locking people up. So that judge was NOT acting on Agape Love nor on the Justice of Agape Love: he was acting on the unjust attitude of Hatred, which is why his action was a miscarriage of justice! Any judge without equal Agape Love for both the victimiser and the possible intended victim is an unjust judge. And justice without equal Agape Love for the victim and the victimiser is a miscarriage of justice. To judge righteous judgment, John 7:24, we have to agape-love the just and the unjust, the victim and the victimiser, and the locking up and the setting free of people. Then in that equal and inpartial Agape-Love, in that Justice of Love, which is why Lady Justice is painted blind, that judge in Canada wd have loved the potential murderer in jail and wd still have kept him locked up in Love! In the equal Agape-Love, he wd have known WHEN, the proper TIMING of when to release and when to keep locked up! Eccles. 3:1-8. Time and timing is an automatic function of Pure and Applied Agape-Love, just as Time is a function in Pure and Applied Math! See? Math being just another aspect of Agape-Love, and having nothing to do directly with Eros-Love! See? And in loving himself as unjust, he wd have been able to bear/stand looking unjust even when he was just! Love bears all things! 1 Corinthians 13:7-8. And he wd have realised that with Agape-Love we don't need to have justice SEEM to have been done: we just need to have it DONE in Agape-Love! Yes! Ok? See what I am saying? Hang in there, Meusing! looking fwd to hearing from u! Loving and Respecting u with Agape-Love and Agape- Respect, Giam |
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15 | Does not All hang on Love? mt 22:36-40 | Matt 6:24 | Giam | 46775 | ||
Meusing! Your logic is perfectly logical! But your premise, your premise! smile Which makes u say: God is NOT His creation! Wow! How can u make an open statement like that? smile Only one way: U must be hating some parts of God's creation! Uh oh! Now 'fess up... to yourself! smile Ok? Now: Something made out of glass is waht? Glass, right? So something, anything, everything made out of God is what and who? God! Right? smile God made et out of him and made himself into everything! God made et out of nothing, so guess who God also is? Nothing, which is why He came as Manna: which means: What is it? Whatsitsname? So no wonder God made et out of Nothing! Nothing is one of his names! Gd makes something out of nothing! Is that nor awesome? Is that not awEfull? So did God make u, meusing? yes, right? And did God made u out of him? Yes, right? So guess who u ALSO r? God! John 10 33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a Man, makest thyself God. 34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? 35 If he called them gods unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; See? The name Man is just another name for God! That is true of all other names! see? Now I am sure u wd believe God, right? Go ahead! That is why God says to me: Giam, if u hate Meusing, u hate Me! Giam: But God, how can U say that? Meusing is NOT u! U are U and Meusing is Meusing! AH, Giam, u don;t understand! When u hate Meusing, all u r saying is that if I were Meusing, u wd hate Me! Well gues what? Meusing IS who I wd be if I were meusing! So Giam, if u say u love Me and hate Meusing, u are lying when u say u love Me! U have to lvoe meusing as me in order to love Me as meusing! And guess what, giam? U are who I wd be if I were U! So u'd bettter start with loving u as me in order to lvoe Me as u, and love u as meusing in order to lvoe meusing as u! Remember Giam: Inasmuch as ... u know that scripture, Giam? Yes? well finish it in practice and start with your thinking! Matthew 25:35-45. So Meusing, what part of the creation that God made out of Himself do u hate? Any part u hate means u hate God as that part, under that name, for that part also came out of God! U can't love the Producer and hate the product without also hating the Producer! 1 john 4:20. Jesus is the Rock, The Way, the Worm, The Tree of life, Life, The lamb, the lion, the serpent, the eagle, the bull, the fish, the Morning Star, the dove, the raven, the fire, the smoke, the darkness, the Light, hate, love, the Sun, shd i do on? manna, first and last, author and finisher, got the idea? smile The Word! Everything, Nothing! ad infinitum! God just called et by other names other than the name God to see if we wd love him as all the other names he is, which is every name and everything! That is why he gave us his Law of Love, the FIRST law for us to obey, to clue us in! God has all the names! His name is Meusing too! do u see? So: So God is a part of et Love is, and so Love is a part of et God is! Now fianlly: r u obeying God's first law and loving him by loving u? I am! smile I am loving u as Him in order to love Him as u! Now what's stopping u? Only Hate for u as any word! Who's stopping u? Only u! Love u, Meusing! Giam |
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16 | Is the Formula for sin to hate anything? | John 3:14 | Giam | 46474 | ||
Thanks Steve for your reply. U asked me to elaborate: Here is waht I believe: Based on Matthew 22:36-40 and 7:12, when God tells me to love him all the way, He must be also be already loving me all the way. i John 4:19 and John 15:9. And when God tells me to love my neybas as myself, he must be loving me as my neighbor and he must be loving my neigbor as me, by first loving himself as me and loving himself as my neighbor! See? I know u may have to think about that a bit. smile But once u have the premise of Love as in Matthew 22:36-40, the logic of Matthew 7:12 will show u all the rest! So it is clear to me that when God tells me to lvoe my neighbor as my self, I must, like Him, first love my self as my neyba in order to love my neyba as myself! So Steve, before we can love others, we have to lvoe ourselves. So if I hate u, who do I hate? Myself! When I hate u, u are NOT my problem! I am my own problem! To be specific, my attitude of hate for myself is my problem. I have a problem attitude and an attitude problem! And since our brains work by words, and all words have opposites, whatever I love u as or hate us as is always as the same word I love to hate me as! So: if I hate u as a fool, who do I hate? Myself. And who do i hate me as? As a fool! Try it out: it words for all words! That is why as kids we knew and said: it takes one to know one! As adults we say: before we can love others, we have to lvoe ourselves! So sure enuff, it was because I hated me as fool before i ever met u that when I ran into u and saw u as myself, that I hated u because i already also hated me a fool! See? So? Whatever words i hate me as are the words that i will hate all my neybas as! And, whatever words I hate me as wd be the words that i wd get offended when u call me by those names! So: Since God loves me as all words and their opposites, I am to lvoe me as God loves me: as all words and their oppisites. And since God loves me as all words and their opposites, to hate me as any word is the first sin, the first spiritual sin, the first sin in my thinking!! For to hate me as any words will be to hate God and my neighbor as myself as those very words! matthew 25:35-45, 1 John 4:20. In fact since Christ is the Word, to hate any word is to hate HIM as that word! See? That is why matthew 12:34-37: By your words u shall be justified and by your words u shall be condemned! So then it is very easy to see that if i hate myself as a dog or snake or u name it, when Christ calls me one or implies that i am one, I wd get offended! So Steve, if I told u waht words i hate, those wd be the very words I hate myself as, the very words i wd hate my neighbor as, and wd be the same words I wd hate God as! So to love my self as certain words and at the same time hate myself as the the opposites of those words is to have the double-minded attitude of Love and Hate to all things and persons! So waht u wrote here is perfect: "You speak of double-minded as hating one thing in opposition to loving another. Double-minded is trying to hold THE two opposite views of LOVE AND HATE FOR a single thing or idea or command. If you were to try to love and hate the same thing at the same time--that would be double-minded." Yes! So to apply Love and Hate to the same ONE set of things called words IS to be double-minded! God's righteousness is to apply Love ONLY to all words, and to apply hate ONLY to the sin of hating any word! Do u see? And now here is the perfect example of James 1:8: 2 Samuel 13 15 Then Amnon hated her exceedingly; so that the hatred wherewith he hated her was greater than the love wherewith he had loved her. And Amnon said unto her, Arise, be gone. Your comments and questions wd be appreciated. L and R, giam |
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17 | Did God make snakes? | John 3:14 | Giam | 46497 | ||
Mommapbs! Thanks for your input! Your bottom line is waht I agree with: "Feel free to love snakes . . .in a herpetorium or in a handbag!" But God also says we are to love our enemies, Matthew 5:43-48, and our enemies include Satan, that ole serpent and that wicked spirit in high places, Rev 12:9 and ephesians 6:10-12, whom we are to resist with Love. James 4:7, 1 peter 5:8-9. So based on matthew 7:12: when God commands us to lvoe our enmies, matthew 5:43-48, God must also lvoe his enemy Satan, who also happens to be our enemy too! So we have a common enemy! So as u quoted, God loves without the hypocrisy of telling us to love whom he hates! His Love is genuine for he loves who he tells us to love. To me, the crawling on the belly part of gen 3:14 has to do with Love and Hate: When we hate what we are to lvoe, we are dragging Love on its belly, we are making Love crawl on its belly, and so dragging ourselves and God down! So a hater is crawling even when standing! So to hate who or what we are to lvoe is to spiritually make Love crawl with the maggots of hate when Love shd always be standing and flying high, SoS 2:4 just as to hate who or what God lvoes is to kill love with hate, and so is to murder love, which is why Hatred is the spirit of murder! This is why to hate anyone and then to kill them by killing their life is double murder: the killing of Love by Hate and the killing of life by hate! So too to hate any snake who crawls is to make it doubly crawl: on its belly and on its belly of hate! Is like humiliating someone we hate: make em crawl and hate em too! So as a Serpent, Satan doubly crawls on his belly by hating himself as a creepy-crawler: he is a crawler who is crawling with the ceepy crawling attitude of Hate! But because God curses in Love who/what he loves and blesses in Love who/waht he loves, Levit 26 and deut 28, then when God in Love cursed the serpent, whom he designed to crawl anyway, he was trying to get him to crawl with Love rather than crawl with hate! To crawl with love is to have Love standing even while crawling! So there is big differnce between crawling in Love and crawling in Hate! Because we love babies, we see their crawling with Love! So let us keep that Love standing strong whether we are crawling or sitting or lying down or walking! Hope that helps! Another thing i lvoe about all the people on this forum is that every one seems to be genuinely Bible-based! smile Look fwd to your comments! L and r, giam |
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18 | Is God really I am who or what I am? | John 3:14 | Giam | 46498 | ||
Thanks Makarios! Yes, I love snakes and in love stay far away from them! So too, I love Satan and with Love resist him and want to be in Love far away from him! See? My point was/is that to hate snakes or to hate Satan or to hate anyone or anything is the same Hate misapplied! Satan is also compared to a lion. 1 peter 5:8-9. So the same premise and logic in love applies: it is wrong to hate lions and wrong to hate satan! Satan is only Lucifer in hate! Lucifer was Satan in Love! Do u follow? Hate must only be applied to sin, and sin is the hating of anything God loves! Satan is only evil because of the evil attitide of sin of him hating himself and so trying to get us to hate him so to get us to disobey God who commands us to lvoe our worse and number one enemy, our spiritual enemy: Satan. So if we hate Satan, we are dissing God and obeying Satan, and if we love Satan, we are obeying God and disobeying satan! Matthew 5:43-48 and Ephesians 6:10-12. Since Satan hates us, when we hate him back,, when we resend hate to him, we are just like him who hates his enemies, and we are not like God who loves His enemies! see? Your comments please! l and r, giam |
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19 | Did God make snakes? | John 3:14 | Giam | 46508 | ||
Thanks Mommapbs! So waht do u think God is saying here? Jude 1 8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, DESPISE dominion, and speak evil of dignities. 9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the Devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst/DARED NOT bring against him a railing/DESPISING accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee. Looking fwd to your input! l and r, giam |
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20 | Is the Formula for sin to hate anything? | John 3:14 | Giam | 46667 | ||
Steve! I used to think the ssame thing: "We naturally love ourselves too much." So I know how u must think: I am sure u will let me know if i am wrong! So u must just wish u cd love others with as much love as u love yourself, right? So when u don't like others, u must blame them for u not liking them, and say so like this: Boy, if my wife or whoever wd just be good and or right, then i cd love them like I love me! Right? So u must also have a problem identifying what sin vanity is: Is vanity self-Love or self-hate? U must think the sin of vanity is self-love! So since vanity is the sin of self-Love, and since I love me too much already, then of course, i must trying to hate me some to get that self-Love down to normal levels! Then however, it wd a sin for my neighbor to hate who it is a sin for me to love! Me! And since my neyba must also hate himself, it wd be a sin for me to hate who it is ok fro him to hate! Him! Right? So u must have lots of family problems in your church! For how can it be a sin for me to lvoe what my wife must love? Me! And how cd it be a sin for her to lvoe who it wd be a sin for me to hate? Her! Plus of course, if self-Love is a sin, then that sin of self-Love must be in opposition to the Law of love for my neighbor as I love myself! Steve, do u see? It is because we assumed that we loved each other TOO much that we cd NOT figure out WHY then we cd not love our neybas as we loved ourselves, why we cd not love our neybas to the extent we thot we loved ourselves! Since Love is God's greatest law, only God cd teach us HOW to love in the first palce! So our assumption that we loved ourselves too much on the preseumption that we had been properly already taught to lvoe ourselves by our parents was the WRONG assumption! For we had not yet had God teach us how to love ourselves! John 6:45: God will teach us! 1 John 4:19: We love God only becaue he first loved us! So the real truth is: if u love u too much, u must be able to lvoe me too much! But U can't give away what u don't have! So the reason why u find it so hard to give love to me MUST mean u have too little for yourself! Ah! So if at the same time u think u love u too much, u also don't like me as much as u love u, then which is it? Then it MUST mean that u also HATE YOURSELF! Ah! And if u are sure u lvoe u, then u must also love ME to the SAME extent! See? Ah! So which is it? It is both! To the extent to love U MUST be a little since u hate me so much! So? So to the extent of the lot of hate u hate me with, U must be also hating U! And to the little extent u love me with, u MUST also be also lving u a little! Ah! Now, i am thinking clearly! The reason I have such a hard time loving my neighbors is because i Love me little! And to the extent i find it so easy to hate my neighbors is becaue i hate me a lot! Ah! Now this makes sense! God never taught me how to lvoe me, so no wonder i love/d me too little and so cdn't/can't love my neigbor all that much! Ah! Plus if i loved me too much, why wd i need God's Love? Ah! It is because I lvoe me too litttle that I need God's agape love! Plus since Love is keepings God's laws, 1 john 5:3 and since sin is the trasnsgression of the Law, 1 john 3:4, then vanity MUST be self-hate, not self-love! Ah! makes perfect sense! Sigh Steve, hope that helps u, man! I mean it! T b continued. Loving u all the way as myself by loving myself all the way as u, giam |
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