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1 | Who makes the rules? | 1 John 3:9 | Baptistbred | 94735 | ||
John, In my furthur studies I have found some verses that have really shed some light on the subject of 1 John 3:10. 1 Timothy 5:24-25: 24 Some men’s sins are open beforehand, going before to judgment; and some men they follow after.25 Likewise also the good works of some are manifest beforehand; and they that are otherwise cannot be hid. 1 Corinthians 3:13 13 Every man’s work SHALL be made MANIFEST: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man’s work of what sort it is. 1 Corinthians 4:5 5 Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will MAKE MANIFEST the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God. Also in 1 John there are hints to the effect of our imperfection here such as in: 1 John 2:28 "ashamed before him at his coming." This in essence says that many WILL have shameful lives at his coming. 1 John 3:2 "it doth not yet appear what we shall be" speaks also of our present imperfection. I am still studying and hoping to understand better, but this really helped.I still by no means believe that one can go on live wickedly here and hope to go to heaven. As for my gluttonous friend, I just used him as an example. I don't condemn him as an unsaved person. Let me know if you can shed more light on 1 JOhn 3:10 and it's meaning. Thanks. |
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2 | Who makes the rules? | 1 John 3:9 | Baptistbred | 94693 | ||
I must say I appreciate your thoughtful and intelligent answer with some of the irrelevant answers I have been getting. Thanks! I think you understand my dilema. You have given me food for thought and I will condider your comments. They have shed some light on the subject. I will study the scriptures more to try and understand. Let me know if you can shed more light on "when" we can tell a lost person from a saved person. |
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3 | Who makes the rules? | 1 John 3:9 | Baptistbred | 94624 | ||
No one has yet answered 1 John 3:10. It says , I quote once again, "By this the children of God and the children of the devil are OBVIOUS." KJV says "manifest". Must I continually ask the same question and be told that we live under grace? I have been a Baptist my entire life hold to "grace by faith alone"! Of course I don't offer my corrupt works to God as an offering to him for my salvation! John obviously emphasizes that one's faith CAN BE SEEN. Everyone keeps saying in essence that only the inward life counts to God. Then what of the hundreds of scriptures that point to the OUTWARD life? #1. We are to be able to discern the lost according to John. #2. We discern this by their works according to John. #3. My original question, "Who makes the rules as to what sins manifest a lost person, and what sins manifest the Christian struggling with sin? #4. How are we to tell a struggling Christian from a expert hypocrite? John says we can-how? |
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4 | Who makes the rules? | 1 John 3:9 | Baptistbred | 94605 | ||
Sal, please see my note to Joe Reformed. Thanks. |
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5 | Who makes the rules? | 1 John 3:9 | Baptistbred | 94604 | ||
You said: believe that the critical difference between the children of God and those of the Devil is not sin (though sin is important), but FAITH. Who are we looking to for our righteous standing before God? Our own works or the work of Christ on our behalf? John tells us that "...everyone who has this hope fixed on Him purifies himself, just as He is pure." This hope is in Christ alone. The reason why we desire holiness rather than sin is due to the love we bear for our Lord. James says one cannot see faith WITHOUT works. 2:20: But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? I appreciate yours and Sal's comments, but both of you are saying that basically salvation is a "heart matter" or a "faith matter". This goes against 1 John 3:10 and a host of other verses in 1 John that speak of objective, not subjective proof of real salvation. |
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6 | Who makes the rules? | 1 John 3:9 | Baptistbred | 94493 | ||
I really appreciate your humble spirit and thoughts on the matter. I still have a question, if "By this the children of God and the children of the devil are OBVIOUS" , and your statement "And as far as commiting sins and repenting of every one. We are covered by the blood, but where is your heart in the matter? If you are just using that as an excuse to sin, then you will not be forgiven. But if you are trying to serve God with your all, then you will be. God looks at the heart. If it ultimately is a heart matter, how can it be obvious? |
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7 | Who makes the rules? | 1 John 3:9 | Baptistbred | 94384 | ||
I appreciate your comments. I agree with all you said, however the question I have is still unanswered. In James 3:2 it says " We all stumble in many ways" . This , in reality, means "we all sin in many ways".Now do we confess every tiny offense as soon as we commit it? Lets take the patriarchs. Several of them directly violated the old testament law of marriage. They had no resmorse or repentance. This, according to 1 John 3:9 would be continuing in sin. Therefore they, according to 1 John 3:9 would be lost. The outward working of the Spirit of God has not changed. God's children have always been characterized by righteousness, right? These were not the heathen, they were God's select men of example. What about Rom. 7:15? "For what I am doing I do not understand; for I am not practicing what I would like to do, but I am doing the very thing I hate." NASB Paul says "doing" , "practicing". I am not trying to be contentious, but just trying to understand. Here is another thing. 1 John 3:10 says "By this the children of God and the children of the devil are OBVIOUS" (NASB My emphasis.) I don't understand that. If they are so obvious, why is it so difficult to discern the saved and lost? Prov. 24:9 "The thought of foolishness is sin" KJV All these definitions of sin confuse me. One almost has to believe there are sins for believer's that are covered by grace and are not "sins", and there are sins of unbelievers that "really"are sins. If the thoughts of an unbeliever are sin, why are not the same thoughts sin when believers think them? AAAAHH! :) The thing I have realized is that EVERY CHRISTIAN, EVERY DAY, CONTINUES IN SIN TECHNICALLY. Romans 14:23 "whatever is not from faith is sin." Now do we have perfect faith all the time? Do we confess this sin of lack of faith EVERY time we HAVE a lack of faith? If not, we are "continuing in sin". James 4:17 "Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin." Have we , as believers, neglected anything that is required of us? Yes! Have we repented of EVERY failure in this area and have thence continued fulfilling ALL that is required of us? No. Someone would say, "It's all covered by the blood for we believers". Then hey! Let's go ahead and have a fling and sin! I'll end it with that for now. |
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8 | Greek words NOT translated ............ | Bible general Archive 1 | Baptistbred | 69773 | ||
I didn't know rejoice would barter, but I may try it. Thanks for being a help:)! As I told Tim, the Logos thing really freaked me out! I thought "How does "terrors" fit into to this verse? :)Ha | ||||||
9 | Greek words NOT translated ............ | Bible general Archive 1 | Baptistbred | 69771 | ||
Thanks Tim. This does help.I guess there is no version which translates every Greek word huh? The Logos x problem really freaked me out! Ha :) | ||||||
10 | Greek words NOT translated ............ | Bible general Archive 1 | Baptistbred | 69749 | ||
Hello EdB. Well, I guess something is wrong with my Logos linking or something. I have my keylinking to Strongs Lexicon, but when I click on a "cross" in the New Testament it brings up the HEBREW # instead of the Greek! Maybe you can help me. That is why I was so confused, the Hebrew # of this means "terrors"! I think this is my whole problem. I have Iexalt, E-sword, Online Bible, Logos x,and Master Christian Library by Ages. I seldom use E-Sword and Master Christian, but the other two are really helpful. The OLB has so much free stuff and I use it as often as Logos x. I Have a very basic Wordsearch program, so I don't use it much. I don't know Greek or Hebrew so I don't use the audio feature. I only wish L-x stuff wasn't so high! I have found that Alldirect.com has the cheapest prices on it, except for ebay auction. |
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11 | Greek words NOT translated ............ | Bible general Archive 1 | Baptistbred | 69732 | ||
Sorry,I made a mistake on my first post. The reference is Romans 8:26 instead of 8:29. Mine has a little cross next to the word "Likewise". It is a pop-up translation note. Maybe you have a different KJV version, I don't know.( e-text I mean.) Of course this is just one example of many notes like this in my LLS NT. | ||||||
12 | Greek words NOT translated ............ | Bible general Archive 1 | Baptistbred | 69641 | ||
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13 | David's sin forgiven when? | 2 Sam 12:13 | Baptistbred | 64244 | ||
Here are Clarke's comments from his commentary on 2 Sam.12:13. Many have supposed that David’s sin was now actually pardoned, but this is perfectly erroneous; David, as an adulterer, was condemned to death by the law of God; and he had according to that law passed sentence of death upon himself. God alone, whose law that was could revoke that sentence, or dispense with its execution; therefore Nathan, who had charged the guilt home upon his conscience, is authorized to give him the assurance that he should not die a temporal death for it: |
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14 | Job DID charge God foolishly? | Job 1:22 | Baptistbred | 46831 | ||
Thanks for the kind reply. I look forward to further "challenges" in the future. God bless you | ||||||
15 | Job DID charge God foolishly? | Job 1:22 | Baptistbred | 46583 | ||
Hello Lionsrong. I don't think we are going to come to full agreement here. This is one of those "pits" of dicussion that get deeper and deeper. I admit Job was "perfect before God" , but I also insist that he stated things about God's character that even God rebuked him for. Why didn't God agree with him? Because God DISAGREED. Why does anyone rebuke anyone else? Because they are wrong. If Job was only defending his own righteousness, then why did God say "wilt thou condemn me?". This is hairsplitting. Job was not innocent, God was not guilty. These things we know. All else could be endlessly debated. Grace to you |
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16 | Job DID charge God foolishly? | Job 1:22 | Baptistbred | 46422 | ||
Dear Bro. Lionstrong. This is a profitable discussion and I believe can help both of us. I believe Job 40:7-8 taken together with 42:6 shows that God reproves Job of false accusation and Job reponds with repentance. The word condemn in 40:8 is translated "wicked or wickedly" 4 times in the book of Job alone.Notice also that God's vindication of Job in 42:7 came just after Job's repentance in 42:6. I believe the root issue is here is the soveriegnty of God. Ultimately God can do anything He wants to do regardless of what we think or if we understand it or not. The truth is is that every single one of us could be severely rebuked by God even at times that we are closest in our walk with Him. So saying that Job did not charge God foolishly is to say that we know exactly why God rebuked him, which we don't. |
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17 | 2 followups, masturbation and 1Cor7:2-5 | Bible general Archive 1 | Baptistbred | 46311 | ||
Your welcome Makarios. God forbid that I should ever sear my conscience to the point of masturbating with no guilt. God lets us feel guilt for a reason.Keep living for God! Lam.3:22-23 |
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18 | 2 followups, masturbation and 1Cor7:2-5 | Bible general Archive 1 | Baptistbred | 46218 | ||
I want to say I appreciate your notes on this and agree. I am single and 35, never married, and in full time Christian work. I am so weary of men trying to sanction this action by all kinds of reasons. It is lust of the flesh as you(and God's Word)have stated, and should be resisted by walking in the spirit. I believe when one comes to the point that he thinks this is NOT a sin, he opens a door for increased temptation. It will also "cool off" one's fellowship with God. | ||||||
19 | Job DID charge God foolishly? | Job 1:22 | Baptistbred | 45739 | ||
Dear Lionstrong, I appreciate very much your comments, but after further contemplation I just cannot bring myself to think of God as lauphing at the innocent after they have been "killed by a scourge". As I have said before,I am a believer in the soverienty of God and study from Calvin daily, but I must agree with Morant61 on this one. In Christian love. |
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20 | how can we loose our salvation. | John 10:28 | Baptistbred | 45722 | ||
I must insert here solid scripture on eternal security. Romans 8:29-30. There is an unbroken link between predestinate, and glorified. | ||||||
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