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Results from: Answers On or After: Thu 12/31/70 Author: victorA Ordered by Date |
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1 | Proverbs 8 Wisdom Equals Jesus | Prov 8:22 | victorA | 129367 | ||
Hi Suzybeezy, From the post by kalos one might conclude that only three Bible Versions agree with the New World Translation in translating the Hebrew qana in verse 22 of Proverbs 8. That simply is misleading. Following are several other Bible Translations. Please realize that numerous Hebrew scholars for each translation agree with the translation. Compiled by: Bible Museum and Biblical Research Foundation TRANSLATION COMPARISON Proverbs 8:22 Is Jesus God? Is Jesus from everlasting to everlasting as the Bible states that the Almighty God, Jehovah, Is? Well, what about the following scriptures, don’t they indicate Jesus had a beginning? K.J.V. Col. 1:15 “Who is the image of the invisible God, the Firstborn of every creature.” K.J.V. Rev-3:14 “And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; these things saith the Amen, the Faithful and True Witness, the Beginning of the creation of God.” Does Pro. 8:22 back up the above two scriptures? First of all, many say that this account is merely a literary personification of wisdom or wisdom personified in a figurative way. However, this scripture cannot be speaking about divine wisdom or wisdom in the abstract. The reason why not is that “wisdom” that is here depicted was “created” or “produced” as the beginning of Jehovah’s way. The scriptures show that Jehovah himself has always existed. (Ps.90:2, 1Tim.1:17) Since He is eternal and He has always been wise, then His wisdom has always existed; it never was created or produced; it was not “brought forth as with labor pains.” Wisdom does not exist apart from a personality capable of possessing and reflecting it. Consequently, this “wisdom” must be a personification picturing someone who was created “as the beginning of God’s way.” The N.T. repeatedly testifies to the fact that Jesus had a pre-human existence as the Son of God in heaven with Jehovah. (John 17:5, John 6:62) in that pre-human existence, He worked with Jehovah in creating all things. Jo. 1:3 states about Jesus: “All things came into existence through him, and apart from him not even one thing came into existence.” Once again, does Pro. 8:22 back up Col.1:15 end Rev-3:14? Well, the King James, Authorized Version doesn’t. K.J. states it as: “The Lord possessed me in the beginning of His way, before His works of old.” But, does the K.J. translate the Hebrew word “qa-nah” correctly as “possessed”? No, it does not. It should be translated as “created” or “produced”. The following translations are given as proof. (continued) |
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2 | jehovahs witnesses | Bible general Archive 2 | victorA | 124797 | ||
“We think it proper to hear from you what your thoughts are, for truly as regards this sect it is known to us that everywhere it is spoken against.” (Acts 28:22) These community leaders in first-century Rome set a fine example. They wanted to hear from the source, rather than from outside critics alone. Similarly, Jehovah’s Witnesses today are often spoken against, and it would be a mistake to expect to learn the truth about them from prejudiced sources. We believe that “all Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial.” (2 Timothy 3:16) And although some have claimed that we are not really Christians, this is simply not true. We endorse completely the apostle Peter’s testimony regarding Jesus Christ: “There is not another name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must get saved.”—Acts 4:12. However, since Jesus said that he is “God’s Son” and that the “Father sent me forth,” Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that God is greater than Jesus. (John 10:36; 6:57) Jesus himself acknowledged: “The Father is greater than I am.” (John 14:28; 8:28) Thus we do not believe that Jesus is equal with the Father, as the Trinity doctrine says. Rather, we believe that he was created by God and that he is subordinate to Him.—Colossians 1:15; 1 Corinthians 11:3. I and most other Witnesses are always willing and ready to show love for neighbor by showing them what the Bible says which obviously is our beliefs. |
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3 | "Least in the kingdom of God"? | Matt 11:11 | victorA | 122617 | ||
I would have to answer that Jesus would not be the “least” or “lesser” one in the kingdom of the heavens but the “greatest” one resurrected, becoming the King of his heavenly kingdom. In these two accounts you mention, Jesus shows us something that many completely miss, that John the Baptizer will not be in the heavenly Kingdom, since a lesser one there is greater than John. John prepared the way for Jesus, but his (John's) death occurs before Christ sealed the covenant, or agreement, with his disciples to be corulers with him in his Kingdom. That is why Jesus says that John will not be in the heavenly Kingdom. John will instead be fully rewarded as faithful but be an earthly subject of that Kingdom as well will David and all the other faithful servants of God that died before Pentecost. This was a special period of opportunity that had arrived with Jesus’ coming to earth and giving his life a ransom on behalf of mankind. For all, the Prophets and the Law, prophesied until John.” (Mt 11:10-13) Some going to heaven may have been prominent in the congregation, like the apostles, and others less so, but they are all Jesus’ spiritual brothers. (Luke 16:10; 1 Corinthians 15:9; Ephesians 3:8; Hebrews 8:11) So, even if some seemed insignificant on earth, they were his brothers and should have been treated accordingly. You see, God’s Word leaves us with no doubt that one of God’s outstanding qualities is justice. Also, righteousness is the very foundation of his throne. (Deuteronomy 32:4; Psalm 89:14) His being just and righteous, however, does not obligate him to bestow identical favors upon all of his intelligent creatures. For example, he created some beings as spirit creatures, angels, who are far superior to humans. Nor does he reward all of his faithful earthly creatures in the same way. Thus Jesus said those words regarding John the Baptizer that “the least in the kingdom of Heaven is greater than he.” |
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