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Results from: Answers On or After: Thu 12/31/70 Author: Victor529 Ordered by Date |
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1 | New Ideas?? | 2 Cor 11:4 | Victor529 | 156506 | ||
Lionheart, It is my contention that your Fundamentalism / Evangelicalism is relatively new to historical Christianity, is mainly an American phenomenon, and bears no resemblance to anything preceding the Great Awakening of the 1720's. Your denominational distinctives are simply novel and unbiblical. You are ignorant of the writings and theological perspectives of the decades and indeed centuries following Christ. Read the writings of some of martyrs of the first three centuries and you will realize MANY of your views are sheer innovations. If you can't be bothered then ignorance is bliss. You don't need to tell me how you only care what the Bible says. The early Church understood the Bible, many knew the Apostles and there was a genuine lineage between these authors and Christ. You THINK you understand the Bible, it's that simple. Put another way you seem well-versed in contemporary theology in the American Fundamentalist / Evangelical tradition, and you identify it as apostolic biblical Christianity! |
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2 | New Ideas? | 2 Cor 11:4 | Victor529 | 156470 | ||
There are many different interpretations of the Bible among well meaning Christians. That is the primary reasons why there are so many different denominations: doctrine. What I mean by adverse to "new ideas" is when a man is inducted into a certain denomination he is not capable of ever adjusting his theological outlook. A challenge to his biblical interpretations is perceived as an attack on the views of the biblical authors and God. What a man hears first in his own denomination should not necessarily be his fixed theology for life, nor is it guaranteed to be correct. When I was at Bible College my denomination held to believers baptism, i.e infant baptism was seen as unbiblical. Fair enough. After studying at college I was able to fully articulate the case for both sides, and to know the strengths and weaknesses of each side's argument. I am particularly frustrated that 'certain people' are so closed-minded, only their doctrine is "sound", other views are wrong. No argument, no biblical texts will sway them. They heard it right first time in their first denomination. You write: 'We mold our theology around Gods Word that means we conform our believing to to His Word...' but do you? If I argued for baptismal regeneration and cite Acts 2:38 as teaching 'our sins are washed away in the baptismal tank' watch how scripture is made to conform to the pre-existing theology of my antagonist. The best case in the world can be made and yet no one ever seems capable of adjusting their positions an iota. Now, I appreciate that the NASB is a Bible produced by conservative evangelicals for a specific readership and most people here would be within a fairly small segment of the theological spectrum. However, I am not seeing any of the veterans here giving an inch, or learning anything new. |
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3 | New Ideas? | 2 Cor 11:4 | Victor529 | 156469 | ||
There are many different interpretations of the Bible among well meaning Christians. That is the primary reasons why there are so many different denominations: doctrine. What I mean by adverse to "new ideas" is when a man is inducted into a certain denomination he is not capable of ever adjusting his theological outlook. A challenge to his biblical interpretations is perceived as an attack on the views of the biblical authors and God. What a man hears first in his own denomination should not necessarily be his fixed theology for life, nor is it guaranteed to be correct. When I was at Bible College my denomination held to believers baptism, i.e infant baptism was seen as unbiblical. Fair enough. After studying at college I was able to fully articulate the case for both sides, and to know the strengths and weaknesses of each side's argument. I am particularly frustrated that 'certain people' are so closed-minded, only their doctrine is "sound", other views are wrong. No argument, no biblical texts will sway them. They heard it right first time in their first denomination. You write: 'We mold our theology around Gods Word that means we conform our believing to to His Word...' but do you? If I argued for baptismal regeneration and cite Acts 2:38 as teaching 'our sins are washed away in the baptismal tank' watch how scripture is made to conform to the pre-existing theology of my antagonist. The best case in the world can be made and yet no one ever seems capable of adjusting their positions an iota. Now, I appreciate that the NASB is a Bible produced by conservative evangelicals for a specific readership and most people here would be within a fairly small segment of the theological spectrum. However, I am not seeing any of the veterans here giving an inch, or learning anything new. |
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4 | Can salvation be lost? | 1 Cor 15:2 | Victor529 | 156375 | ||
There are scores of verses which clearly teach salvation can be lost. However, be aware that this is a hot potato that will split Christians. Other verses would include: Rom 11:22 Behold then the kindness and severity of God; to those who fell, severity, but to you, God's kindness, if you continue in His kindness; otherwise you also will be cut off. Col 1:23 if indeed you continue in the faith firmly established and steadfast, and not moved away from the hope of the gospel that you have heard, which was proclaimed in all creation under heaven, and of which I, Paul, was made a minister. 1Ti 4:16 Pay close attention to yourself and to your teaching; persevere in these things, for as you do this you will ensure salvation both for yourself and for those who hear you. Heb 3:12-14 Take care, brethren, that there not be in any one of you an evil, unbelieving heart that falls away from the living God. But encourage one another day after day, as long as it is still called "Today," so that none of you will be hardened by the deceitfulness of sin. For we have become partakers of Christ, if we hold fast the beginning of our assurance firm until the end, Jam 1:12 Blessed is a man who perseveres under trial; for once he has been approved, he will receive the crown of life which the Lord has promised to those who love Him. 2Pe 2:20 For if, after they have escaped the defilements of the world by the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and are overcome, the last state has become worse for them than the first. People who argue that you cannot lose your salvaton basically reason that you can't add anything or take anything from Christ's atoning work. Therefore, you cannot lose your salvation. The Apostle Paul surely knew even he could lose his salvation when he wrote: 1Co 9:27 but I discipline my body and make it my slave, so that, after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified. |
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