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1 | Making sure I understand your meaning | Bible general Archive 1 | David_24597 | 72670 | ||
Hi, Chusarcik, you said, "Are you saying that in general, throughout history no one has entered into heaven and will be able to after Jesus' 2nd coming." Not really. There have been some resurrections before. Moses, some saints at Jesus' resurrection. The rest of the dead must wait. Read my post to Steve in this same thread. Does it answer you questions? As for Rev. 15:8-11 does not even hint that repentance would be given even if they DID repent. There are times when people repent and aren't forgiven: Rev. 22:11 and Heb. 12:17. What do YOU think Rev. 22:11 means? Or for that matter. Rev. 8:3-5 or Gen. 6:3? |
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2 | Heaven be entered during bowl judgments? | Bible general Archive 1 | David_24597 | 72577 | ||
Rev. 8:5 also shows that Jesus no longer mediates between God and fallen mankind once the seven last plagues start. I think I posted something about this before. There IS a literal temple in heaven (Heb. 8 something or other). Moses was shown a pattern in Mt Sinai and made the earthly temple after that pattern. This symbol of no one being able to enter the temple in heaven would also seem (like Rev. 8:5) to indicate that God no longer offers the chance of repentance to humanity. Rev. 22:11 points to this as well. I don't have all the references right now for this, but no one can enter heaven unless Jesus comes to get them. The only exceptions are Enoch and Elijah cause they never died anyway. Those who are dead must wait in their graves for the resurrection before entering heaven. Job mentions this. Dan. chapter 12 contains a command for him to wait (rest in the grave) until the last days for his salvation. Somewhere in the book of Acts it shows that King David has not YET ascended into heaven. Paul also (I forget excatly where) stated he had to wait for Jesus to come before he could receive his reward of eternal life. Anyway, does this help you any? It's amazing how a study of the prophecies of just Dan. and Rev. can shed light on many errors of doctrines of today's churches. Perhaps that is why they have been included in the Bible, why it is so important for God's people to read and understand and why there is so much conflict over what they mean. People have to (so obviously) twist around what is being said in Dan. and Rev. just to hold on to their own individual church doctrines and beliefs. By studying these things such false beliefs are shown for what they are and God's true gospel can shine forth. |
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3 | is the holy spirit here during the tribu | Bible general Archive 1 | David_24597 | 72512 | ||
I would say, "no". Consider some examples of how God works: Gen. 6:3 shows a time when God's Spirit will not be around. Rev. 7:1-4 shows that the great tribulation does not start until God's people are sealed. Eph. 1:13 and 4:30 shows that this sealing is done by the Holy Spirit. Ezek. chapter 9 is also a good example of what will happen. The "man with the writer's inkhorn" (KJV - a symbol for the Holy Spirit) returns to God after His sealing work is done (verse 11). Does that help? |
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4 | who are the 144,000 | Rev 7:3 | David_24597 | 72510 | ||
The 144,000 are those that have accepted the seal of God and not the mark of the beast. The "great tribulation" (symbolzed here by the four winds) will not fall upon the earth until the 144,000 have been sealed (Rev. 7:1-4). Since Revelation is a book of symbols and a "Jew" is a symbol of a true christian (Rom. 2:28-29 and Gal. 3:7 and 28-29) then I would say that once the great tribulation starts that there will be only 144,000 "true christians" left alive on the earth. Read these other texts to help you understand Rev. chapter 7: Ps. 37:37-40; Ezek. chapter 9; Joel chapter 2; Isa. 8:16 (so Heb. 8:10-11); Eph. 1:13 and 4:30; II Tim. 2:19. Anyway, I hope this helps you some. |
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5 | Y is He jealous? | Zeph 1:18 | David_24597 | 72383 | ||
How about Isa. 24:1-6? especially verse 5 | ||||||
6 | To learn the truth | OT general | David_24597 | 72377 | ||
Correct me if I'm wrong but I heard somewhere that Allah is a god of war. And that the Koran states that a Muslim can rape a Jewish child and still be considered a righteous man. The christian God is a God of Love and rape is wrong no matter who the victim is. |
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7 | To learn the truth | Bible general Archive 1 | David_24597 | 72374 | ||
In OT times the Jews WERE God's people. They were the fulfillment of God's promise to Abraham for his obedience. God promised to greatly multiply Abraham's seed and to give them the promised land to live in. Also (though I can't quite remember where) God promised him that the saviour would be born in this nation. In NT times God's people are those that choose to follow Him. I believe that a "Jew" is then used as a symbol to indicate a true christian. Rom. 2:28-29 and Gal. 3:7 and 28-29 |
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8 | Pastor Preaching in a Mad way!!!!!! | Bible general Archive 1 | David_24597 | 72364 | ||
That's a hard question to answer. Of course people are welcome to believe whatever they want to believe. If this pastor is teaching the word of God people are free to believe him or not. Then again if this pastor is only teaching what he believes and it is in contradiction to what the Bible teaches then I would say, "get out". Then there is II Tim. 4:3-4 (among others) that show people looking for teachers to teach them what they want to hear (not what the Bible really says). "Clouds without water?" I would say, "yes". II Peter 2:17 "Carried about of winds?" Jude 12 Read Eph. 4:14 | ||||||
9 | thanks. | Mal 4:6 | David_24597 | 72350 | ||
I think Luke 1:15-17 might answer your question. It is what Gabriel said to Zacharias concerning John the Baptist. | ||||||
10 | What is the time of the tribulation? | Bible general Archive 1 | David_24597 | 72185 | ||
Rev. 18:8 with Isa. 34:8 and 63:4 states it will only last for one year. Matt. 24:21-22 shows that this time period will be even shorter that that else no flesh would be saved. | ||||||
11 | Is the devil a personification of my sin | Bible general Archive 1 | David_24597 | 72085 | ||
Yes, the devil is a real person. Isa. 14:12-20; Ezek. 28:13-19. Who was it that tempted Jesus in the wilderness? Matt. 4:1-11; Luke 4:1-13. I can't think of where it is right now but even Jesus said that he saw Satan fall from heaven. And Paul said the devil is transformed into an angel of light. (II Cor. 11:14). Rev. 12 even records a war in heaven between Michael and His angels and Satan and his angels. | ||||||
12 | Jacob wrestles with a man | Gen 32:1 | David_24597 | 72052 | ||
Gen. 32:24-30 describes this wrestling between Jacob and God. Verse 30 shows that it was God. Now no one can look upon God the Father and live. Ex. 33:20; Heb. 12:29. So this had to be Jesus. | ||||||
13 | Do we go directly to Heaven? | Bible general Archive 1 | David_24597 | 72038 | ||
continued from previous post... What about the promise Jesus gave to the thief on the cross? "Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise." Jesus never lied yet three things show that He did not see that thief in heaven: (1) the Bible definition of death is eternal sleep; (2) after His resurrection (three days after He died) Jesus told Mary Magdalene that He had not yet gone to heaven but that He was going now. John 20:17; (3) That thief did not even die on that day. Note in John 19:31-33 that the thieves were taken down from their crosses while they were still alive and would have been put back on them after the Sabbath was over. What then did Jesus mean when He said, “Today shalt thou be with me in paradise”? The words have been translated accurately enough to make no difference, but notice that the original languages of the Bible have no punctuation. All the periods, commas, question marks, colons, etc. (as well as chapter and verse separation) were supplied by humans as they translated the originals into English. Could it be that the punctuation could change the meaning if put in the wrong place? Note again: "Verily I say unto thee, (comma) today shalt thou be with me in paradise". What if the comma has been misplaced and belongs after the word today and not before? "Verily I say unto thee today, thou shalt be with me in paradise". Instead of Jesus promising the thief that they would be in paradise THAT DAY, which was obviously a lie, He said, "I tell you this today (right now), that you will be with me in paradise". This was not a promise to be with Jesus that day in heaven but rather a promise given that day that at some later date the thief would be with Jesus in paradise. So Jesus did not lie and the Bible is still in harmony with itself. A human error was the cause of this confusion." Anyway, I hope this helps. I know I have only scratched the surface here. I have more information on this subject if you're interested. Just ask. David |
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14 | Do we go directly to Heaven? | Bible general Archive 1 | David_24597 | 72037 | ||
Hi, Please allow me to copy/paste this from a previous post. This will be in two posts cause it's kinda long. Sorry bout that: I've done some research on who is heaven and have come to this conclusion: The only ones in heaven now are: 1) Enoch and Elijah - Gen. 5:24 and Heb. 11:5 show that Enoch never died. II Kings 2:1-18 records Elijah's translation. Some even went to look for his body but never found it. 2) Moses was resurrected from the grave - Deut. 34:5-7 records his death and burial. Jude 9 would seem to indicate his resurrection. 3) Some of the saints were resurrected at the same time as Jesus Matt. 27:52-53 and were led to heaven when Jesus ascended. In Eph. 4:8 the phrase "led captivity captive" actually translates literally as "led a multitude of captives" without specifying exactly how many are in this "multitude". From your posts I assume that you believe that when a saved person dies that their "soul" or "spirit" (some conscience, thinking feeling part of you) will go into heaven right away. I've done some research on this as well. First of all if there is no resurrection from the dead then there will be no one saved from the grave (I Cor. 15:12-23 - vese 23 even shows that this happens at Jesus' coming.) Please allow me to copy/paste this from some of my research: "Note that Moses appeared (with Elijah) at the mount of transfiguration. Matt. 17:3-4; Mark 9:4-5; Luke 9:30-33. There are some that contend that when you die you will receive your reward right away. If this is true then why is King David still in his grave and has not yet ascended into heaven? Acts 2:29 and 34. Paul stated he would wait until the resurrection to receive his reward of eternal life. II Tim. 4:6-8. Daniel also was told to wait in the grave until the resurrection. Dan. 12:13. Note Job 14:10-15. Remember, death is a total cessation of life, an eternal sleep until the resurrection. Job 14:12 and 19:26. Note that God’s Spirit is His breath; Job 34:14-15 and 27:3; Gen. 2:7; Ps. 104:29-30; Eccl. 12:7. Job knew that he would sleep in the grave until he was resurrected in the flesh. Job 19:26; Isa. 26:19. Read Ps. 146:4 and Eccl. 9:5,6-10. Note that Paul called death "sleep" in Acts 7:60 and so did Jesus in John 11:11-14. Many places in the Bible speak of the resurrection as an awakening out of sleep; Joel 3:9 and 12; Isa. 26:19; Dan. 12:2. Note also verse 18 in I Cor. 15:12-26. If your spirit is your breath (note the margin in James 2:26), and the word translated as "spirit" also means "breath", "wind" and "air", then what about your soul? Can a soul die? Ezek. 18:4 and 20 and Rev. 16:3. Note also that a human has no preeminence above a beast. Eccl. 3:19-21 and that the word translated "creature" in Gen. 1:20,21 and 24 is the same word that was translated as "soul" in Gen. 2:7. So it would seem that the body (dust of the earth) plus the spirit (breath of life) makes a soul (a living creature). When the spirit (or breath) leaves, the body returns to the earth (dust) and the soul (living creature) ceases to exist. During a resurrection the opposite happens, the breath (spirit) returns to the body (dust) and the soul lives again. See Ezek. 37:1-14 esp. vers. 9-14 for an excellent example of how this works. What then about the second death Rev. 20:6 and 14? If death is a sleep, don’t the wicked burn forever? Note that the burning itself is not eternal but the result of it (death and destruction) is. Dan. 12:2; Matt. 25:46 (note that death is the punishment for sin, Rom. 6:23), II Thess. 1:9. In Mal. 4:1-3 the wicked are reduced to ashes. Even Satan is brought to ashes and ceases to exist Ezek. 28:18-19. After their final destruction they die and sleep forever Jer. 51:39 and 57. Note that Sodom and Gomorrah suffered the vengeance of eternal fire Jude 7 but have been reduced to ashes II Peter 2:6 for our example. Note the literal translation of Isa. 66:24 is "their worm shall not yet die, neither shall their fire be yet quenched". That word yet implies that eventually they will die and their fire will be quenched. continued in next post... |
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15 | Need more clarification | Bible general Archive 1 | David_24597 | 71799 | ||
continued from previous post... What about the promise Jesus gave to the thief on the cross? "Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise." Jesus never lied yet three things show that He did not see that thief in heaven: (1) the Bible definition of death is eternal sleep; (2) after His resurrection (three days after He died) Jesus told Mary Magdalene that He had not yet gone to heaven but that He was going now. John 20:17; (3) That thief did not even die on that day. Note in John 19:31-33 that the thieves were taken down from their crosses while they were still alive and would have been put back on them after the Sabbath was over. What then did Jesus mean when He said, “Today shalt thou be with me in paradise”? The words have been translated accurately enough to make no difference, but notice that the original languages of the Bible have no punctuation. All the periods, commas, question marks, colons, etc. (as well as chapter and verse separation) were supplied by humans as they translated the originals into English. Could it be that the punctuation could change the meaning if put in the wrong place? Note again: "Verily I say unto thee, (comma) today shalt thou be with me in paradise". What if the comma has been misplaced and belongs after the word today and not before? "Verily I say unto thee today, thou shalt be with me in paradise". Instead of Jesus promising the thief that they would be in paradise THAT DAY, which was obviously a lie, He said, "I tell you this today (right now), that you will be with me in paradise". This was not a promise to be with Jesus that day in heaven but rather a promise given that day that at some later date the thief would be with Jesus in paradise. So Jesus did not lie and the Bible is still in harmony with itself. A human error was the cause of this confusion." Anyway, I hope this helps. I didn't mean for this post to be so long. Sorry bout that. I had to divide it in two posts. |
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16 | Need more clarification | Bible general Archive 1 | David_24597 | 71798 | ||
Yes there is a literal temple in heaven "which the Lord pitched and not man" Heb. 8:1-2. Moses built the earthly temple after the "pattern" he saw in heaven Heb. 8:5. Rev. 11:19 would also seem to indicate a literal temple. I've done some research on who is heaven and have come to this conclusion: The only ones in heaven now are: 1) Enoch and Elijah - Gen. 5:24 and Heb. 11:5 show that Enoch never died. II Kings 2:1-18 records Elijah's translation. Some even went to look for his body but never found it. 2) Moses was resurrected from the grave - Deut. 34:5-7 records his death and burial. Jude 9 would seem to indicate his resurrection. 3) Some of the saints were resurrected at the same time as Jesus Matt. 27:52-53 and were led to heaven when Jesus ascended. In Eph. 4:8 the phrase "led captivity captive" actually translates literally as "led a multitude of captives" without specifying exactly how many are in this "multitude". From your posts I assume that you believe that when a saved person dies that their "soul" or "spirit" (some conscience, thinking feeling part of you) will go into heaven right away. I've done some research on this as well. First of all if there is no resurrection from the dead then there will be no one saved from the grave (I Cor. 15:12-23 - vese 23 even shows that this happens at Jesus' coming.) Please allow me to copy/paste this from some of my research: "Note that Moses appeared (with Elijah) at the mount of transfiguration. Matt. 17:3-4; Mark 9:4-5; Luke 9:30-33. There are some that contend that when you die you will receive your reward right away. If this is true then why is King David still in his grave and has not yet ascended into heaven? Acts 2:29 and 34. Paul stated he would wait until the resurrection to receive his reward of eternal life. II Tim. 4:6-8. Daniel also was told to wait in the grave until the resurrection. Dan. 12:13. Note Job 14:10-15. Remember, death is a total cessation of life, an eternal sleep until the resurrection. Job 14:12 and 19:26. Note that God’s Spirit is His breath; Job 34:14-15 and 27:3; Gen. 2:7; Ps. 104:29-30; Eccl. 12:7. Job knew that he would sleep in the grave until he was resurrected in the flesh. Job 19:26; Isa. 26:19. Read Ps. 146:4 and Eccl. 9:5,6-10. Note that Paul called death "sleep" in Acts 7:60 and so did Jesus in John 11:11-14. Many places in the Bible speak of the resurrection as an awakening out of sleep; Joel 3:9 and 12; Isa. 26:19; Dan. 12:2. Note also verse 18 in I Cor. 15:12-26. If your spirit is your breath (note the margin in James 2:26), and the word translated as "spirit" also means "breath", "wind" and "air", then what about your soul? Can a soul die? Ezek. 18:4 and 20 and Rev. 16:3. Note also that a human has no preeminence above a beast. Eccl. 3:19-21 and that the word translated "creature" in Gen. 1:20,21 and 24 is the same word that was translated as "soul" in Gen. 2:7. So it would seem that the body (dust of the earth) plus the spirit (breath of life) makes a soul (a living creature). When the spirit (or breath) leaves, the body returns to the earth (dust) and the soul (living creature) ceases to exist. During a resurrection the opposite happens, the breath (spirit) returns to the body (dust) and the soul lives again. See Ezek. 37:1-14 esp. vers. 9-14 for an excellent example of how this works. What then about the second death Rev. 20:6 and 14? If death is a sleep, don’t the wicked burn forever? Note that the burning itself is not eternal but the result of it (death and destruction) is. Dan. 12:2; Matt. 25:46 (note that death is the punishment for sin, Rom. 6:23), II Thess. 1:9. In Mal. 4:1-3 the wicked are reduced to ashes. Even Satan is brought to ashes and ceases to exist Ezek. 28:18-19. After their final destruction they die and sleep forever Jer. 51:39 and 57. Note that Sodom and Gomorrah suffered the vengeance of eternal fire Jude 7 but have been reduced to ashes II Peter 2:6 for our example. Note the literal translation of Isa. 66:24 is "their worm shall not yet die, neither shall their fire be yet quenched". That word yet implies that eventually they will die and their fire will be quenched. continued in next post... |
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17 | Not praying for one's self? | Bible general Archive 1 | David_24597 | 71730 | ||
To pray for myself, for me, is an act of selfishness James 4:3. Should I ask for money or a new car or some such material goods? Or should I ask for something I already have the ability to recieve (such as Biblical knowledge)? Shouldn't the christian be more concerned with the welfare of their fellow christians above that of themselves Phil. 2:3? What kind of humility is it if one is only concerned with oneself? God will supply my needs as he sees fit. I have no need to ask Him for anything for myself. He gives me what I need to survive freely without me asking for it Matt. 6:24-34. That's how I see it. | ||||||
18 | Why does God bet with Satan in Job? | Bible general Archive 1 | David_24597 | 71712 | ||
Why did God ask Abraham to sacrifice his only son to Him? I don't have any specific Bible references here but think that (since God doesn't need any "proof") perhaps others in heaven do? Anybody else have any thoughts on this? It's a good quesion. | ||||||
19 | Clarification of entering the temple | Bible general Archive 1 | David_24597 | 71710 | ||
I take this to be a reference to God's gift of grace. No one can enter (by faith) into the temple in heaven while the seven last plagues are happening on the earth. Gen. 6:3; Rev. 8:3-5 and 22:11-12 tell me that there comes a time when God withdraws the opportunity for repentance from humanity and then the end will come. This is a time when the wicked can no longer become saved. They are, in effect, trapped outside Noah's ark and cannot enter. God's people have been marked/sealed for their protection (Rev. 7 Ezek 9) and the wicked have been marked/sealed for their destruction (Rev. 13:11-18, 14:9-12 and 16:2). Does this help you any? | ||||||
20 | How do I pray for myself? | Bible general Archive 1 | David_24597 | 71692 | ||
Interesting question Wynter. Personally I don't think a christian should pray for themselves. On the other hand Jesus told us how to pray and included in the Lord's Prayer is "give us this day our daily bread" etc. Matt. 6:9-13 Personally I think that God knows every thought we think. This then is what I think about it. We are constantly in prayer with God. Constantly communicating to Him through every thought we think. If you want to improve yourself; just think it. God will answer you. If you want something more substantial ask for it in Jesus' name. God knows all our thoughts and desires. If your thoughts are in accord with God's will, He will answer you. It may not be today but it WILL happen. It will be in God's timetable, not yours. |
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