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1 | RApture after the mark of the beast ?? | 1 John 2:27 | Emmy | 134027 | ||
The Rapture after the mark of the beast? 1 Thess 4:16 The dead in Christ rise first. Then the rapture. Conclusion: Rapture is after the 1st resurrection. Rev 20:4 In the first resurrection are saints who were martyred for not worshipping the beast and the image and for not taking the marks of the beast. If these are included in the first resurrection, then the first resurrection occurs AFTER the beast is worshipped, the image is made and worshipped and the mark of the beast is enforced. Conclusion: The worshipping of the beast, image and taking of the mark occur during tribulation period. In fact they are a big part of it. The first resurrection therefore occurs, during or after tribulations have started. Since the rapture follows the resurrection, therefore the rapture takes place during or after the tribulations. We know the rapture follows the resurrection. This is the best clue as to when the rapture occurs. WHEN DOES THE FIRST RESURRECTION OCCUR ? IS THE SEQUENCE OF EVENTS IN REV 20 give us the clue? Sequence in REV 20: Satan chained first resurrection thousand year reign of Christ with saints Satan released from pit to deceive the nations. Final war against Jerusalem and Christ Satan thrown into lake of fire 2nd resurrection final judgement at the great white thone. IN this sequence the resurrection is after tribulations are over and Satan is chained. If this is the correct, then the rapture occurs after tribulations as well since it follows the resurrection. If the resurrection and rapture is before tribulation, then the worshipping of the beast and image and the mark of the beast are all happening before the tribulations start, for martyrs to be included in it. |
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2 | Sequence in Revelation 14 | Rev 14:1 | Emmy | 120035 | ||
It would please us if as many people as read this give a quick response to the following QUESTIONS. Thanks The small print is bible text THE LARGE PRINT ARE OUR QUESTIONS. REV 14:1 Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father's name written on their foreheads. THE 144000 WERE SEALED JUST BEFORE THE FIRST TRUMPET JUDGEMENT. HERE THEY ARE ON MOUNT ZION WITH CHRIST. IS THIS AFTER CHRIST HAS RETURNED? Yes/No ( ) 2 And I heard a sound from heaven like the roar of rushing waters and like a loud peal of thunder. The sound I heard was like that of harpists playing their harps. 3 And they sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders. No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth. 4 These are those who did not defile themselves with women, for they kept themselves pure. They follow the Lamb wherever he goes. They were purchased from among men and offered as firstfruits to God and the Lamb. 5 No lie was found in their mouths; they are blameless. 6 Then I saw another angel flying in midair, and he had the eternal gospel to proclaim to those who live on the earth--to every nation, tribe, language and people. 7 He said in a loud voice, "Fear God and give him glory, because the hour of his judgment has come. Worship him who made the heavens, the earth, the sea and the springs of water." 8 A second angel followed and said, "Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great, which made all the nations drink the maddening wine of her adulteries." IS THE GOSPEL PREACHED BY THIS ANGEL AFTER THE 144000 ARE SEEN WITH CHRIST? Yes/No ( ) 9 A third angel followed them and said in a loud voice: "If anyone worships the beast and his image and receives his mark on the forehead or on the hand, 10 he, too, will drink of the wine of God's fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath. He will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb. 11 And the smoke of their torment rises for ever and ever. There is no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and his image, or for anyone who receives the mark of his name." 12 This calls for patient endurance on the part of the saints who obey God's commandments and remain faithful to Jesus. PLEASE INDICATE TRUE OR FALSE: THE WARNING ABOUT THE MARK COMES BEFORE IT IS INSTITUTED T/F ( ) THE MARK IS FORCED ON PEOPLE BEFORE THE WARNING IS GIVEN T/F ( ) 13 Then I heard a voice from heaven say, "Write: Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on." "Yes," says the Spirit, "they will rest from their labor, for their deeds will follow them." 14 I looked, and there before me was a white cloud, and seated on the cloud was one "like a son of man" with a crown of gold on his head and a sharp sickle in his hand. 15 Then another angel came out of the temple and called in a loud voice to him who was sitting on the cloud, "Take your sickle and reap, because the time to reap has come, for the harvest of the earth is ripe." 16 So he who was seated on the cloud swung his sickle over the earth, and the earth was harvested. IS THE ABOVE REAPING THE SAME AS THE GATHERING IN Matt 24 PASSAGE BELOW. Yes/No ( ) IS IT THE RAPTURE ? Yes/No ( ) IS IT THE FIRST RESURRECTION ? Yes/No ( ) DOES IT OCCUR AFTER THE RETURN OF CHRIST ? Yes/No ( ) [[[Matt 24:30 and then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of the sky with power and great glory. 31 "And He will send forth His angels with a great trumpet and the will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other.]]] Rev 14 (continued) 17 Another angel came out of the temple in heaven, and he too had a sharp sickle. 18 Still another angel, who had charge of the fire, came from the altar and called in a loud voice to him who had the sharp sickle, "Take your sharp sickle and gather the clusters of grapes from the earth's vine, because its grapes are ripe." 19 The angel swung his sickle on the earth, gathered its grapes and threw them into the great winepress of God's wrath. 20 They were trampled in the winepress outside the city, and blood flowed out of the press, rising as high as the horses' bridles for a distance of 1,600 stadia. IS THE SECOND REAPING THE GATHERING OF PEOPLE TO FIGHT AT ARMAGEDDON ? Yes/No ( ) THE WINEPRESS OF GOD'S WRATH IS THE BATTLE OF ARMAGEDDON? Yes/No ( ) ARE ALL EVENTS IN REV 14 IN THE SEQUENCE IN WHICH THEY ARE TO OCCUR ? Yes/No ( ) |
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3 | The dead know nothing ??? | Eccl 9:5 | Emmy | 118659 | ||
Hi: There seem to be no unanswered question on the forum at present. This is a question I asked earlier, but I never found an answer to it. Is there anyone out there willing to try. This passage says that the dead know nothing. It cannot be taken out of context of the rest of the scriptures. Some have said that other passages contradict this statement "The dead know nothing". Any statement contradicting the above, would mean "the dead know something". Can anyone showe me how the statement "the dead know nothing can be interpreted that the dead know something? Sincerely Henry and Emmy |
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4 | Logic in timing in steps. | Rev 20:4 | Emmy | 118167 | ||
Hi: Logic in timing in smaller steps. The first resurrection is after the beast of Revelation is revealed. The first resurrection is after the beast is being worshipped. The first resurrection is after the marks of the beast is instituted. This means that the resurrection takes place after the beast, image and mark have been fully instituted. The revealing of the beast, his being worshipped, the worship of his image, and the taking of the mark of the beast are event that take place during tribulation. Therefore the tribulations are well under way before the first resurrection occurs. If people are to be killed for refusing to worship the beast, his image or to take his mark, then the beast image and mark all have to be instituted while these people are still alive. Another way of saying this is one could not be beheaded for refusing to worship the beast and his image, or refusing to take the mark if the beast, image and mark were not here yet. Here is the passage that puts these ideas together. Main idea in Capitals. Rev 20:4 Then I saw thrones, and those seated on them were given authority to judge. I also saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their testimony to Jesus and for the word of God. THEY HAD NOT WORSHIPPED THE BEAST OR ITS IMAGE AND HAD NOT RECEIVED ITS MARK ON THEIR FOREHEADS OR ON THEIR HANDS . They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. Can anyone see a fault in this line of thinking so far ? Namely that the first resurrection occurs after the tribulations have started and the beast, image and mark of the beast all are present before the resurrection. Sincerely Henry and Emmy |
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5 | A question of logic in timing | Matt 24:15 | Emmy | 117873 | ||
A QUESTION OF LOGIC AND TIMING: The rapture happens after the first resurrection. 1Thess 4:15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive, and remain until the coming of the Lord, shall not precede those who have fallen asleep. The mark of the beast is instituted after the image of the beast is set up in the temple. This occurs after tribulations have started The first resurrection(Christ excepted) includes people who were killed for not taking the mark. Therefore the resurrection has to be after the mark of the beast is instituted Therefore the rapture is after the start of tribulations. THE ALTERNATIVE VIEW: Rapture occurs before tribulation starts. First resurrection occurs before tribulation starts. Since some of the dead resisted the mark. Therefore the mark of the beast comes before tribulations starts. Is there any way to find a contradiction in the LOGIC AND TIMING logic above? Is there any indication in scripture that the mark of the beast is instituted before tribulation starts? |
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6 | What is meant by "last day" in John 6:44 | John 6:44 | Emmy | 115322 | ||
John 6: 44"No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him, and I will raise him up at the "last day." Thoughts about John 6:44 "Last day" is singular in all translations of scripture I have. It seems to refer to Jesus resurrecting people. There are many days after the resurrection, so it seems not to mean the last day with never another day to come after it. I assume this speaks of the 1st resurrection, since He is resurrecting people the Father has drawn to Him (Jesus) Question: What is it about this day of resurrection that it is called the last day ? This is the last day of WHAT ??? What ceases in this day that will never occur again ? |
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7 | Sequence of events in Rev 14 and 20 ? | Revelation | Emmy | 110127 | ||
Please send your yes/no response and comments where applicable. I wouls like to know if the events in chapter 14 and 20 are written in the sequence they are to occur ? Rev 14: Events in the sequence presented in the chapter. A 1. Christ on mount Zion with 144,000. Is this the same 144,000 that were sealed from the 12 tribes of Israel? ? Yes No B 2. Gospel preached. Does the preaching of the gospel follow the return of Christ ? Yes No C 3. Babylon falls D 4. Warning not to take the mark of the beast. Does the warning of the mark precede the institution of it ? Yes No E 5. (first reaping) The elect of God are gathered. Is this the first resurrection ? Yes No Is this a gathering of living people from all over the earth ? Yes No F 6. (second reaping) The gathering of many to be killed at Armageddon. Questions: 1. Is the sequence of events as listed in this chapter in the order they are to occur ? Yes No 2. If the first reaping,(#5 above) is not the first resurrection then what is it ? Answer: If you think the sequence is NOT A, B, C, D, E, F as above please rearrange these letters in The order you feel they are to occur. Rev 20: Events in the sequence they are presented in the chapter. A 1. An angel with a great chain appears. B 2. Satan is chained in the pit. He is to stay there for a 1000 years. C 3. I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection. D 4. Those of the first resurrection rules for Christ for 1000 years E 5. Satan released to deceive those on the earth. F 6. Last war G 7. Second resurrection H 8. White throne judgement of angels and those people not resurrected in the first resurrection. Questions: 1. Is the sequence of events as listed in this chapter in the order they are to occur ? Yes No 2. The first resurrection includes people who refused the mark of the beast and so died in the tribulations. Does this mean the first resurrection occurs after the tribulation period and after Satan is chained. Yes No |
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8 | Please indicate if sequence is correct | Bible general Archive 2 | Emmy | 110118 | ||
I am new at this forus. Is it possible to reply to the questions and post the results? If so please do. |
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