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1 | Was Saul Spirit-filled? | 1 Sam 10:10 | reasnerm | 53870 | ||
Would you agree that this is an infilling of the Holy Spirit, differing only in the fact that it was short-term from what we see in post-Pentecost infilling? | ||||||
2 | Was Saul Spirit-filled? | 1 Sam 10:10 | Ray | 53885 | ||
Hi reasnerm, I, for one, would not agree that this is an infilling of the Holy Spirit. When the Old Testament characters have a special short-term task the Holy Spirit "came upon" them. This wording was used in verse 6 also. "Then the Spirit of the Lord will come upon you mightily,..." I see the indwelling of the Holy Spirit and the fact of Christ living in us when we put our faith in Him, as being separate from being "filled with the holy spirit". All of the cases of being "filled with the Holy Spirit" [sic] in the Scriptures I would put in the lower case. In John 1:33 we see the Spirit coming upon or descending, and remaining on Jesus. And the Spirit of God remained upon Him throughout His ministry. One can contrast John 1:33 with John 19:30 and consider that not only is there a Spirit but that there is a holy spirit. John 19:30. "When Jesus therefore had received the sour wine, He said, "It is finished!" And He bowed His head, and gave up His spirit." John 1:33, "...this is the *One [NKJ, this is He] who baptizes in the *holy *spirit." Starred are my suggested interpretation. John 1:26, "John answered them saying, "I baptize you in water, but among you stands One whom you do not know." John 19:34, "but one of the soldiers pierced His side with a spear, and immediately there came out blood and water." I believe that it is important to know this One and to be washed in the baptism of His blood and water from the cross. I believe that it is important to be washed by His holy word, the Scriptures, and His holy spirit which is a down payment John 1:34, "And I have seen, and have borne witness that this is the Son of God/." John 19:36, "For these things came to pass, that the Scripture might be fulfilled, "Not a bone of Him shall be broken." And again another Scripture says, "They shall look on Him/ whom they pierced." Zechariah 12:10, "And I will pour out on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the Spirit [Or, a *spirit] of grace and of supplication, so that they will look on Me/ whom they have pierced;..." It was important that one Man should die for the people and I also will mourn for Him as one mourns for an only son. John 11:50, Zechariah 12:10 From the heart, Ray |
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3 | Was Saul Spirit-filled? | 1 Sam 10:10 | srbaegon | 53887 | ||
Hello Ray, You are confusing "filling" with "indwelling." There were occasions in the OT where the Holy Spirit filled someone for a task (Exod 31:2-5; Micah 3:8). Steve |
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4 | Was Saul Spirit-filled? | 1 Sam 10:10 | Ray | 53950 | ||
Hi Steve, I agree that "filling" and "indwelling" are often confused or equated, but I don't believe that that is the case here with my post. Your references here for Exodus and Micah are places where I would put the word Spirit in lower case. They do not speak of the Person of God here in either of these references. Exodus 31 speaks I believe to the workman's being filled with the spirit of God. He is filled with wisdom, understanding, knowledge, and ability in all manner of workmanship. These are all gifts of spirit, spiritual gifts, that he has from God the Giver of the gifts. Micah 3:8, NKJ, "But truly I am full of power by the Spirit of the Lord, And of justice and might,..." Micah 3:8, NASB, "On the other hand I am filled with power--With the Spirit of the Lord--And with justice and courage..." This filling of power, justice, and courage were given in order that he might "make known to Jacob his rebellious act, Even to Israel his sin." The Person of the Spirit was not spoken of here and His direct words were not spoken in the verses that followed. This is a case where we have to decide whether the writer of the book or whether God is speaking. Look at Micah 3:1. Who is speaking? I believe that it is the writer of the book. The New King James would have it being God speaking, as indicated by their capitalizing "My" people in verse 2. However, the marginal note for that verse tells us that "My people" is literally, them. I go for the literal and with the NASB here. I believe that he is speaking the words of the Lord through the spirit that was given to him. Micah 3:5, "Thus says the Lord concerning the prophets Who lead my people astray;...Indeed they will cover their mouths Because there is no answer from God. On the other hand I am filled with power--With the *spirit of the Lord--...Now hear this..." As I have said, then Micah continues on with his words of spirit and power. We too can speak the words of the Lord of hosts with power and courage when we walk with the Lord and have been filled with the knowlege of the truth of God. Micah 4:4, "And each of them will sit under his vine And under his fig tree, With no one to make them afraid, For the mouth of the Lord of hosts has spoken. Though all the peoples walk Each in the name of his god [sic], As for us, we will walk In the name of the Lord our God forever and ever." We walk in His authority and His name. From the heart, Ray |
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