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1 | Affecting the Vatican | NT general | John Ryals | 230727 | ||
King Herod Because of King Herods' roots from Rome, Could this be affecting the Vatican today? |
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2 | Affecting the Vatican | NT general | Bill Richardson | 230728 | ||
In my humble opinion, I don't think so. King Herod and his reign pre-dated the Kingdom of God through His Son. The transfer of power from the Roman Empire to the Vatican is the biggest source of influence. The desintigration of the Roman Empire left a big gaping hole in the political arena of the world. If you'll check your history books, you'll discover the development of Papal power was a very gradual thing. We don't know all the details but we do know there were eventually 5 major cities with their own "chief bishops/elders," at that time called Patriarchs. These cities were Jerusalem, Constantinople, Rome, Alexandra and Antioch. It all probably started innocently enough as most things started by God and messed up by mankind. God's Word always provides for plural "elders" whenever cited in the scriptures, with NO chief elder. And this pattern was followed as much as possible with the assistance from the Holy Spirit and Paul's sons of the faith: Timothy and Titus. But then Paul also predicted the coming apostacy (falling away) and the coming of deceivers within the Lord's church. 2 Thes 2:3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God. Acts 20:29 For I know this, that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock. 30 Also from among yourselves men will rise up, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after themselves. The gradual build up of "chief elders" was probably done to improve things, i.e. efficiency and speed of making decisions on a wide scale, city-wide. Eventually these five cities began to literally compete for the position of being the "main man" of the whole church with the final two combatant cities being Rome and Constantinople. They even sent out armies against each other and killed many thousands of people all "in the name of Christ." Yes what a tremendous tragedy. All this strife eventually resulted in two major branches of the Lord's church: the Catholics in Rome and the Greek Orthodox in Constantinople, now known as Istanbul. All this is described in more detail in a book entitled "Church History" by John D. Cox. He takes us on through the Dark Ages, Reformation and the Restoration, very inlightening. Sorry for all the extra detail. Go with God in all things. Bill |
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3 | Affecting the Vatican | NT general | John Ryals | 230730 | ||
Brother Bill: That was the most intellectual, unbiased answer I've ever received to any question I've ever asked on this forum. No need for an apology for the length. It was right on time. And thanks, I have some direction where I can look deeper into my research. Also, thanks for the suggested reference material. I will check it out! May God Bless You, jryals77@yahoo.com |
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4 | Affecting the Vatican | NT general | Bill Richardson | 230739 | ||
Thanks for the encouragement. I'm just your humble servant. I'm anticipating you may have difficulty in locating a copy of that book; I purchased mine many years ago. I used it in coming up with my outline and teaching a class on the subject. If you're interested as well as anyone else reading, I'd be glad to send you a copy of my outline; just let me know. I followed Bro. Cox's book as closely as I could. Go with God in all things and He will bless you. Bill |
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