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1 | Satan has permission to rule | Bible general Archive 4 | Beja | 227481 | ||
PaulusSecundus, True true. However the question becomes, When is the thousand years? Many Christians today believe the only real question in end times belief is when will Christ come back in relation to the tribulation? At the beggining? At the end? In the middle? However, they would be suprised to know that in historical Christianity this has not been the question that divided where people stood. In contrast, the question was when will Christ come back in relation to this 1,000 year reign. To that there were three main answers. (I'm discounting the preterist view.) The one we are most familiar with would be the pre-millenial view. This view holds that Christ returns prior to the 1,000 year reign on earth. The second two both hold that the 1,000 year reign willhappen prior to Christs return. The first is postmillenial. This holds that the advance of the gospel will usher in a golden age for Christianity that lasts 1,000 years prior to Christs return. The final position is called amillenialism. It holds that Christs thousand year reign is meant to reference his current reigning on his throne in heaven guiding all things to their proper climax in his return. At the end of this time, satan will be released. This actually has been the most widely held stance historically, though few hold it now. Now, the scripture you referenced only actually impacts the discussion if you assume a premillenial view. I do not here intend to argue for one or the other, but only explain the assumptions we are bringing to the text. I'll tell you that I do not hold a premillenial view. In Christ, Beja |
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2 | Satan has permission to rule | Bible general Archive 4 | PaulusSecundus | 227486 | ||
"They [faithful Christians] came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years." (Rev. 20:4) "Blessed and holy is the one who has a part in the first resurrection; over these the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with Him for a thousand years." (Rev. 20:6) These faithful Christians 'reign with Christ' for a thousand years. Clearly, Jesus could not return during or after this 1,000 years, otherwise he wouldn't have 'reigned' for a thousand years. "The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of His Christ; and He will reign forever and ever." What's more the inference is that Christ is already reigning in 'his kingdom' before these 1,000 years begin as shown above in Rev. 11:15-18. |
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3 | Satan has permission to rule | Bible general Archive 4 | Beja | 227489 | ||
PaulusSecundus, Do you really believe a view which has had more affirmation by historical christianity than any other position has not considered these verses? I have no intentions of trying to win an arguement. I don't think end times discussions ought to be debated on these forums. Discussing them for the sake of understanding other views, yes. Debating, no. Therefore I will not even defend the view in this post except to say that it would become us to not lightly dismiss such a well attested historical view before we even know what it teaches. In Christ, Beja |
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4 | Satan has permission to rule | Bible general Archive 4 | stjohn | 227509 | ||
"You will bear me witness, my friends, that it is exceedingly seldom I ever intrude into the mysteries of the future with regard to the second advent, the millennial reign, or the first and second resurrection. As often as we come across it in our expositions we do not turn aside from the point, but if guilty at all on this point, it is rather in being too silent than saying too much." --Charles Spurgeon | ||||||