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1 | where is Christ battling Satan in HELL | Bible general Archive 4 | EdB | 226253 | ||
I guess if you are going to summarily discount the Talmud and Jewish oral tradition that agrees with the desciption of Hades found in Luke 16:19-31 because they are from uninspired writers any further discussion on the subject is pointless. As for preexisting thoughts I never had any on the subject I viewed Luke 16 as a parable and never looked for any reality to confirm or deny it. I was doing research on Jewish teaching, in particular their view of death and eternity, it was from this research I began to understand their belief on the matter. I was then startled to learn that this newly discovered (by me) Jewish concept of Hades actually paralleled exactly Luke 16:19-31. So call it what you want but don't try to blame it on preexisting thoughts. I can definitively say I had absolutely none on this subject when I entered into this research. Have a great day. |
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2 | where is Christ battling Satan in HELL | Bible general Archive 4 | Beja | 226257 | ||
EdB, You state: "I guess if you are going to summarily discount the Talmud and Jewish oral tradition that agrees with the description of Hades found in Luke 16" Response: I most certainly am going to dismiss it, and I feel you ought to give answer to my exegesis of Luke 16 before you just go on acting as if there is a parallel. You said: "...any further discussion on the subject is pointless." Response: Have you no scripture whatsoever then for these things you are teaching to young Christians? In Christ, Beja |
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3 | where is Christ battling Satan in HELL | Bible general Archive 4 | EdB | 226264 | ||
Beja I'm sorry I hadn't notice any exegesis of Luke 16. I only saw you making statements about things that neither the Jewish Talmud, Luke 16 nor I said. Hades by both the Jewish Talmud and oral tradition is seen as a spiritual reality not some place under the ground as you suggest. I wonder who is speaking from pre existing thoughts? Also the Jews call the place Abraham's bosom Jesus called it paradise (today you will be with me in paradise)which fits the description of Lazarus seen in Abraham's bosom. How does a man get into the bosom of a another? Unless of course it is the name of a place rather than a description of a physical position of the man. As for teaching young Christians something that is off beat, is it not you who claims the Old Testament Saints entered heaven contrary to Jesus' clear edict that to do so you must pass through Him, and that door the Second or New Covenant was not opened yet? Let us be reasonable and hopefully civil about this, it is obvious to all that neither of us are going to change the others mind on the matter. Let us move on. God's richest blessings to you. |
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4 | where is Christ battling Satan in HELL | Bible general Archive 4 | Beja | 226266 | ||
EdB, I'm tempted to reply to several things you said in your last post. You always seem to assert your view all over again in the posts where you intend to move on. However, as per your wishes I will let it drop with only one exception that I feel I must correct. You said, "it is obvious to all that neither of us are going to change the others mind." However, I insist that whether it be this day or sometime down the road, I stand more than ready to recant and accept the teaching should you be able to show me that it has sound basis in the word of God. May God bless you as well. In Christ, Beja |
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