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1 | will suiside send you to hell | Bible general Archive 4 | jlhetrick | 226150 | ||
EdB - Do we find in Scripture that once a person is saved they will not sin again? Or do we find that the saved continue to struggle with the flesh to include sometimes succumbing? | ||||||
2 | will suiside send you to hell | Bible general Archive 4 | Beja | 226157 | ||
jlhetrik, I hope EdB will forgive me if I'm misrepresenting his side of the arguement, but let me chime in and try to clarify what I think is being said. Scripture nowhere clearly states that suicides go to hell. What it does teach is that a saved individual will partake of an ongoing sanctification that leads them to greater and greater Christ likeness, despite the fact that we will never be sinless in this life. Now suicide is not simply struggling with a particular sin, but instead it is a radical and finally unresolvable departure from that pattern. Thus, it may cause us to question salvation in the same way we would question the salvation of a professing Christian that is completely overcome in sin and dies with no fruits or evidence of repentence. So the arguement is not one of perfectionism, it is simply having a hard time placing suicide with scriptures affirmation of the ongoing sanctification of believers. I too, for this very reason, struggle to believe a suicide is a saved individual even though I can not rule out the possibility for certain. It simply seems that one of the marks of saving faith is a perseverance which is quite contrary to suicide. May God grant that I am wrong! In Christ, Beja |
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3 | will suiside send you to hell | Bible general Archive 4 | jlhetrick | 226159 | ||
Beja - your response is much appreciated and well considered. The point of my response to EdB was to encourage a more thorough explanation of his position. With that said, let me make you aware that there is a very real medical problem that occurs in the brain chemistry of some that causes them to actually reach a point that would fit into the definition that Charles Hodge, for example, meant by insanity. As a mental health professional I land far outside of the culture and philosophies that most mental health professionals comfortably exist. For example, I truly believe that much of what we label and diagnose today as mental disorders would be better explained by demonic influences and even possession as well as disorders in mood directly related to sin and guilt. I’m sure some would love to revoke my license to practice based on that statement. At the same time though, I acknowledge the very real and measurable chemical imbalances that some experience causing them dysfunction of mood, thought and behavior. I have worked with enough patients (including confessing Christians) that struggle with mental illness as well as ongoing sin. Sometimes it’s a first point of focus to work with them to identify the difference. I stand by my position and belief that there is only one unpardonable sin and suicide is not it. It would be a mistake for any Christian to start ranking individual sins in any order not supported by Scripture, especially were we to qualify that sin as a “disqualifier”. Furthermore, each of us will die (or be raptured) having yielded to God and growing in His sanctification in differing degrees. I am convinced, however, that any sin known to man is a potential sin to be committed by any Christian except for the one unpardonable sin. To believe otherwise, I believe, would be to disagree with Scripture and leave us unnecessarily vulnerable. | ||||||