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1 | sins of the father | Bible general Archive 4 | lightedsteps | 222714 | ||
Hi Doc So then what you are saying is. These verses, really don't mean what they are saying? Eze.18:20 20) (THE SOUL THAT SINNETH, IT SHALL DIE. THE SON SHALL NOT BEAR THE INIQUITY OF THE FATHER, NEITHER SHALL THE FATHER BEAR THE INIQUITY OF THE SON: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him. Deut. 24:16 The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin. Where then is the scripture or scriptures, that supercede, or nullify what these do say? Grace be unto you lightedsteps |
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2 | sins of the father | Bible general Archive 4 | DocTrinsograce | 222825 | ||
Dear lightedsteps, No, I was not saying that at all. You wrote, "These verses say we are responsible for our own sins, and do not bear the sins (curses) of our fathers." (post #222709) I wrote, "...your citations do not provide the Biblical support for which you are trying to apply them." (post #222711) As I explained, the verses you chose were based on what men were saying in objection to God: Then the word of the LORD came to me, saying, "What do you mean by using this proverb concerning the land of Israel, saying, 'The fathers eat the sour grapes, But the children's teeth are set on edge'? As I live," declares the Lord GOD, "you are surely not going to use this proverb in Israel anymore." (Ezekiel 18:1-3 NASB) Read all of Ezekiel 18. You will see that the people were rejecting God's judgment on Israel in the Captivity because they claimed they were being punished for the sins of their fathers. God explains that if a man is righteous, then he will not be charged with the unrighteousness of a son, and vice-versa. Note that those doing the complaining were NOT righteous. Their own unrighteousness made them worthy of God's wrath. Their attempted defense was only misdirection, fraught with error through and through. When you use the Scriptures, remember the importance of context. As someone once said, "Every text without a context is a pretext." We will persuade no one of our theology by citing verses out of context. May I suggest an inexpensive, paperback book? It is "How to Read the Bible for All Its Worth" by Gordon D. Fee and Douglas Stuart. You can find it for sale online from many sources. You are person who thinks. You need to be properly equipped in your thinking. In Him, Doc |
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3 | sins of the father | Bible general Archive 4 | lightedsteps | 222837 | ||
Hi Doc It seems as though we are at crossed purposes. Your answer is in relation to the corporate, (Nation). I am answering the question as asked, which was in the singular. The question asked was "i think it says about the sins being carried through generations" Therefore I feel as though the answer I gave while being out of context to the Nations complaint, Gods answer to them was in a singular context. Eze 18:20 - Deut. 24:16 God is Sovereign, even though He judges each man for his own actions, He can still judge the nation as a whole. Grace be unto you lightedsteps |
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4 | sins of the father | Bible general Archive 4 | DocTrinsograce | 222839 | ||
Dear lightedsteps, God does, indeed, judge and sentence nations. It is an entirely different situation, though, from the judgment of individuals. Nations do not have souls. Their judgment is always a temporal one. Humans either live or die eternally. Without the imputation of Christ's righteousness, all men are under the sentence of death. Their guilt is due to their departure from the righteousness demanded by a holy God in act, thought, word, and nature (either by commission or by omission). (See the first three chapters of Romans concerning the universality of sin.) Men are also guilty because of the sin of Adam, their federal head, which was imputed to all of his descendants (cf Romans 5:19). I would encourage you to obtain that book. In fact, if you want to write individually to me, I will see that you receive a copy. In Him, Doc |
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