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1 | sins of the father | Bible general Archive 4 | MAMAMETAL | 222707 | ||
i think it says about the sins being carried through generations, but does this have anything to do with (for instance)..The parents are continually bickering, name calling, even hitting each other.... then the children grow up to accept and act the same way....I thought so little of myself growing up,After I married, I put up with being beat and abused, I thought no one wanted me, Some days were o.k. If I left, then on top of everything else, I would also be alone. (Now,I know the Lord is always with me. I'm saved.) I am 60 yrs..Married 3 times, Now I live with a man who has never hit me, but we have grown so far apart we rarely speak. I cry almost everyday because I am so lonley. The pain comes from deep inside. At my two daughters homes I see screaming and fighting the grandchildren are having boy/girl friends. I look at my grandchildren. I've seen them actually crying because thier boy/girl friends has hurt them. I have such pain to see my grandchildren heading for where I am now. Looking back (at my parents) and ahead (to the grand children). I am so greatfull for this site because, allthough I know I should be attending Church, I usually dont. But I am always doing "MY JOB"(speaking about Christ whenever I can) Our family never attended Church. I never push, but I think I have made a dent or two in one of my daughters. If I can show her in the bible where it says "YOU'RE INFECTING YOUR KIDS" It might do some good. PLEASE! Send the scripture but then also try to put it in plain old everyday words of your own because I have trouble relating what the words mean myself. | ||||||
2 | sins of the father | Bible general Archive 4 | lightedsteps | 222709 | ||
MamaMetal These verses say we are responsible for our own sins, and do not bear the sins (curses) of our fathers. Jer 31:29-33 29) In those days they shall say no more, The fathers have eaten a sour grape, and the children's teeth are set on edge. 30) But (EVERY ONE SHALL DIE FOR HIS OWN INIQUITY): every man that eateth the sour grape, his teeth shall be set on edge. 31) Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: 32) Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD: 33) But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. Eze 18:4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: (THE SOUL THAT SINNETH, IT SHALL DIE). Eze 18:19-22 19) Yet say ye, Why? doth not the son bear the iniquity of the father? When the son hath done that which is lawful and right, and hath kept all my statutes, and hath done them, he shall surely live. 20) (THE SOUL THAT SINNETH, IT SHALL DIE. THE SON SHALL NOT BEAR THE INIQUITY OF THE FATHER, NEITHER SHALL THE FATHER BEAR THE INIQUITY OF THE SON: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him. 21) But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die. 22) All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him: in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live. With all of that now said. What you grew up with, becomes a learned way of living, what is abnormal actually becomes normal, if there isn't any counter example for you to observe. We make our own choices in life, regardless of how we were raised, we choose to be the same as our parents, or choose to be the opposite. To just believe we have no choice in the matter is a cop out. How many other things do you, and your children do, that are the same as you observed your parents do. besides the battering, yelling etc., but those things you would not change? Grace be unto you lightedsteps |
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3 | sins of the father | Bible general Archive 4 | DocTrinsograce | 222711 | ||
Hi, Lightedsteps... The Jeremiah 31:29-30 passage you cited is not an assertion by God, but His quoting the objections of the people (cf Lamentations 5:7; Ezekiel 18:2-3). Ezekiel 18:19-22 is the same sort of thing. Fundamentally, they are accusing God of unrighteousness (cf Deuteronomy 24:16) and God forebearingly dispenses with their objections. Consequently, your citations do not provide the Biblical support for which you are trying to apply them. By the way, the objections of the Babylonian captives makes me mindful of how people jump up and down today saying things like "God won't do that because it isn't fair!" The last thing that a people in our condition want is fairness. What we need is mercy. In Him, Doc |
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4 | sins of the father | Bible general Archive 4 | lightedsteps | 222714 | ||
Hi Doc So then what you are saying is. These verses, really don't mean what they are saying? Eze.18:20 20) (THE SOUL THAT SINNETH, IT SHALL DIE. THE SON SHALL NOT BEAR THE INIQUITY OF THE FATHER, NEITHER SHALL THE FATHER BEAR THE INIQUITY OF THE SON: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him. Deut. 24:16 The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin. Where then is the scripture or scriptures, that supercede, or nullify what these do say? Grace be unto you lightedsteps |
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5 | sins of the father | Bible general Archive 4 | lionheart | 222715 | ||
lightedsteps, Good day to you. I don't believe Doc was saying anything about things being nullified. Scripture never contradicts it's self. Now with that said, yes people are responsible for their own sin and will be accountable for their sin. But how often have the consequences of ones sin impacted the lives of others. All the time, history is full of examples. That's why we should be so gratefull to God for His grace and mercy to us by His Son Jesus Christ. In Him, lionheart |
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6 | sins of the father | Bible general Archive 4 | lightedsteps | 222718 | ||
lionheart Good day to you, please excuse the delay, and thanks for your input:-) In your saying "But how often have the consequences of ones sin impacted the lives of others." Yes people all the time, do end up holding the bag for the things other people have done, but that isn't quite the point is it? The question that was originally asked, was about generational sins, not there consequences. In other words, the children will commit the same sins of the parents, as a generational curse. IMHO the generational sins now under discussion, do not exist. Hypothetical: Two brothers, and one sister grow up in a family where the father is an alcoholic, and abuses the mother, these children see this abuse take place on a regular basis, when these three children are grown, getting married themselves, one brother drinks, and abuses his wife just as his father had done, the second brother does not drink or abuse his wife, but the sister, finds herself being abused like her mother was. So then if the sin of spousal abuse is passed on to the children in a generational curse, to the third and the fourth generation. Should not the curse pass on to all the children, or is this type of curse selective? Why would one brother be a drunk, and abuse, and the other not? Lastly what is the sin the sister is committing by being the one abused? Isn't this nothing more than, the learned behavior of two children observing, but then again the second brother having observed the same things,"CHOSE" to not drink, or abuse. Therefore in such things we do have a choice, there is no generational curse, it is nothing more than the fallen human nature, and learned behavior. Grace be unto you lightedsteps |
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