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1 | An Enemy Has Done This! (Matt 13:24-30) | Bible general Archive 4 | DocTrinsograce | 215547 | ||
Hi, Vintage... Of the 33 parables of Christ, how many of them were for people other than the disciples? Two perhaps? Maybe three? If the parables were primarily for the instruction of the disciples, that would lend little credence to your assertions. Even the passage in Matthew 13 (which you cited) regarded the Lord's answer to an explicit question regarding parables from His disciples. A bit more orthodox approach to sound exegesis of gospel parabolic passages can be found in my post #157835. In Him, Doc |
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2 | An Enemy Has Done This! (Matt 13:24-30) | Bible general Archive 4 | Vintage68 | 215555 | ||
Hi Doc in your post, you say. "Of the 33 parables of Christ, how many of them were for people other than the disciples? Two perhaps? Maybe three?" Would you be so kind, as to provide me with this list of the 33, with the possible 2 or 3 you have mentioned, I would really appreciate it. Because in this chapter alone, there are 4 parables spoken to the people. you go on to say. "Even the passage in Matthew 13 (which you cited) regarded the Lord's answer to an explicit question regarding parables from His disciples." What are you intimating by the fact He was only answering an explicit question? Unless I have missed something, Matt.13 is the chapter in which the question was originally asked, which started this thread. Therefore any answer Jesus might have given, was in direct relation to the context of this chapter. I offer as a conformation, of that answer made by Jesus, these two verses, you will find they are saying virtually the same things, as do the verses 10 - 17 previously posted, But these two, are not in relation to any question asked. 34.) All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spake he not unto them: 35.) That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world. welcome back Vintage68 |
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3 | An Enemy Has Done This! (Matt 13:24-30) | Bible general Archive 4 | DocTrinsograce | 215564 | ||
Dear Vintage, Thank you for your greeting. Regarding the number of parables: I pulled the number from memory. As I recall there were one or two in dispute amongst scholars as to whether they might actually be considered parabolic. (I think I remembered the number 33 simply because that was about Jesus' age at His crucifixion. That's just the way my mind works.) You can search around the Internet and find itemizations of the parables. Counting them oneself might yield the greatest benefit. At 90 chapters, reading through the gospels in a month is an easy task. One might make that effort, counting and categorizing the parables, and later checking one's work against readily available references. A book that is well worth picking up is "How to Read the Bible for All Its Worth" by Gordon Fee and Douglas Stuart. The chapter "The Parables: Do You Get the Point?" would be particularly helpful -- but I'd encourage anyone to read it cover to cover. This is just one of the books I've used in my hermeneutic classes. Of all of them, though, I deem this to be the easiest read and the most immediately practical. Since the parable in question was explained by Christ after its telling, I should think that we are remiss in seeking any other explanations. As Fee and Stuart wrote, "...for all their charm and simplicity, the parables have suffered the fate of misinterpretation in the church second only to the Revelation." (page 149) That observation certainly seems to be confirmed from posts here on the SBF. As to the specific parables that were directed to people other than Christ's disciples, I think you will find that there are only a very small number. Whereas it is certainly likely that we do not have all the parables Christ spoke, I assumed that our discussion related to those specifically disclosed in the gospels. By the way, Christ explains with almost painfully explicit language why people did not understand what He was teaching in John 8:43-47. The apostolic teachings as expressed in the epistles confirm that the reason for comprehension or the lack of comprehension remains the same today. In Him, Doc |
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