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1 | Gift of speaking in tongues for all? | Bible general Archive 3 | mark d seyler | 167937 | ||
Hi Mitch, How is it that you define Scripturally praying in the Spirit as praying in tongues? Love in Christ, Mark |
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2 | Gift of speaking in tongues for all? | Bible general Archive 3 | mitchm0521 | 167942 | ||
Mark let me say you are one of the best to talk to on here. You are one of the only ones who doesn't just try to denounce what I teach as something new and unusual. Thank you for your desire to talk Scripture. BTW did you get my question when I asked if you knew of some good text that would help me with learning the hebrew and greek words better? As to praying in tongues, Paul says starting in 1 Cor 14:14 that if he prays in an unkown tongue his Spirit prays. And he goes on to say that he will pray in the Spirit ( which he just said is praying in other tongues ) and he will pray in his own understanding. He will sing in the Spirit, and he will sin with his own understanding. Thats how I define Scripturally praying in the Spirit, as praying in tongues. God Bless, Mitch |
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3 | Gift of speaking in tongues for all? | Bible general Archive 3 | mark d seyler | 167950 | ||
Hi Mitch, Thank you for your kind words. I will try to be worthy of them, and I know that I am not always. What you are saying is neither new nor unusual. I would like to look at the verse you quoted, and a verse about praying in the Spirit. In 1 Cor 14:15, Paul says "What then is it? I will pray with the spirit, and I will also pray with the mind; I will sing with the spirit, and I will also sing with the mind." This is from the JP Green Literal Version (LITV). In vs. 14, Paul says, "if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays." In verse 15, "spirit" and "mind" are both in the Dative Case, signifying direction, location, or instrumentality. The context from verse 14 tells us this is instrumentality, he prays with his spirit, or by means of his spirit, or mind. There is nothing in the text to suggest that vs. 15 uses these words any differently. So praying with his spirit is praying in tongues, and praying with his mind is normal language prayer. Now look at Eph 6:18 "through all prayer and petition, praying at all times in the Spirit, and watching to this same thing with all perseverance and petition concerning all the saints." Here, Spirit is in the same Dative Case, for direction, location, or instrumentality, but it is preceded by the Greek "en", "in the Spirit". This is not present in the Corinthians passage, but here it signals that the correct meaning is Location. We pray, being in the Spirit. So one is instrumental, using our spirit, the other is locational, being in His Spirit. Let me know your thoughts. I would suggest downloading e-sword.net, and using the Greek and Hebrew study helps to get you started. I also recommend the blueletterbible.org. These have be invaluable to me. Love in Christ, mark Love in Christ, Mark |
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4 | Gift of speaking in tongues for all? | Bible general Archive 3 | mitchm0521 | 167951 | ||
I guess I'm not sure if you are agreeing with me, or if you are disagreeing with what I said. Do you believe praying in the Spirit, is praying in tongues as well as I do? As for the blueletterbible.org , I recently found that, and it is one of the best bible websites I've ever seen. Thanks! Mitch |
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5 | Gift of speaking in tongues for all? | Bible general Archive 3 | Morant61 | 167959 | ||
Greetings Mitch! I would add my recommendation to Mark's as well. E-sword is an excellent Bible study resource - and it is free. :-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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