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1 | Keep the Sabbath Holy? | Bible general Archive 3 | onlyme | 190960 | ||
How so? The Ten Commandments were created for the Israelites who were being rebellious and causing enough anger in God that he nearly destroyed them all. | ||||||
2 | Keep the Sabbath Holy? | Bible general Archive 3 | jlhetrick | 190972 | ||
onlyme, What I appreciate about your postings here is that you truly appear to have a question that your trying to learn the answer to. What puzzels me at the same time is that you seem to have your mind set on being in conflict with the traditional position of the Christian church and unaccepting of the Sriptural support. Same is true for your inquiring about the 4th commandment. Keeping in mind the sovereignty of God, His holiness, and never-changing attributes- will you please provide Scriptural reference to support your statement: "The Ten Commandments were created for the Israelites who were being rebellios and causing enough anger in God that he nearly destroyed them all." I don't find that in Scripture. Furthermore, the statement seems to suggest that you already had your mind made up before asking: "does the 4'th commandment pertain only to the time period and the audience at the time of the commandments, meaning the Israelites of Moses' day, or does it pertain to all Christians for all time?" Please clarify. God bless, Jeff |
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3 | Keep the Sabbath Holy? | Bible general Archive 3 | onlyme | 190977 | ||
Jeff, You've touched on another topic that I was going to explore at a later date when you used the phrase "traditional position of the Christian church". Which tradition of which Christian church were you referring to? There are so many different flavors to choose from! And there is scriptual support for a wide variety of views as well, which is the root of my frustration. To support my TC claim, you need to read Exodus. Who did God create the TC for? The Israelites, His chosen people. Israelites who were busy making a golden calf to worship while God was speaking to Moses! But my reference or main point was about the Sabbath. Exodus 31: 12 Then the Lord said to Moses "Say to the Israelites, 'You must observe my Sabbaths. ..." Following that in Exodus 32, the Israelites fashioned the golden calf and in Exodus 33:3 He tells them He will not go with them because He might destroy them. Finally in Exodus 34 the new stone tablets are created. I do have my own opinions, it was other opinions that I've been interested in hearing. Thanks. |
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4 | Keep the Sabbath Holy? | Bible general Archive 3 | jlhetrick | 190991 | ||
Hello again and thanks for the response. Based on your belief that there are "so many different flavors to choose from..." regarding Christian tradition I simply disagree; and see your thinking as perhaps the center of your difficulty. Agreeably, today there are many different denominational “flavors” but the truth of Scripture is, and always will be- unchanging. When I mentioned "traditional Christianity" I assumed, perhaps mistakenly, that you had a background in church history and orthodox Christianity. I apologize for that. Now that I have a better idea of where you are at, I believe I have some feedback that may be helpful. We most of us have the experience of some exposure to church attendance growing up and (to agree with you on some level I think) we all have learned various contradictory things. So when I refer to tradition I am speaking to those truths of Scripture long-held and taught by the church. The teachers of our history whose writings and commentaries have been studied and critiqued and found to be in-line with Scripture, relying on the truth of Scripture alone as their foundation. I might throw out a few names here but that would defeat the purpose of what follows. We have to keep in mind here that the Lord Jesus Christ is the Head of the church. When we realize that, we can have confidence that He has stayed true to his word (Isaiah 55:11, John 14:26). There comes a time in every serious bible student’s life when he/she realizes that he/she has a certain amount of beliefs (learned in the home, church, and social environment) that are not in agreement with, or at least are not decisively supported by Scripture. For me it was marked by a period of time that would be best described as faith-shaking and panic. Perhaps that’s where you are now, perhaps not. In any case, I believe the lesson learned, if learned at all, is eventually the same for everyone. Our doctrine does not show the Scriptures to be true, but rather, the Scriptures alone must determine our doctrine. When we study for ourselves we will NOT likely be “…tossed here and there by waves and carried about by every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, by craftiness in deceitful scheming; “ The interesting thing is that the more we learn from God's word the easier it is to recognize a teaching that doesn't line up. I hope it's comforting to know that there is not a "which Christian Chruch" issue to be considered. There is only one Christian Chruch, that of which Christ is the head. With that perhaps you will be less interested in the opinions of others. God bless, Jeff |
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