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1 | The APOCALYPSE CODE. | Bible general Archive 3 | justme | 189741 | ||
I just finished reading THE APOCALYPSE CODE, by Hank Hanegraaff. Has anyone else read this book? If you have read it how did you think about his Biblical conclusions? Scripture says we are to search the Scriptures and I would like a second opinion or a third or maybe more. Blessings. justme |
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2 | The APOCALYPSE CODE. | Bible general Archive 3 | InGodITrust | 189742 | ||
Hello again justme, Guess I am here tonight, been busy for a while. My opinion, OK, here goes. Hank Hanegraaff has many issues of which I thoroughly disagree. Frankly, I would not use his writings for toilet paper. He has gone against the grain, thrown out dispensationalism (the Biblically balanced one that is) Been extremely critical (over and above) the Pentecostals (of which I am not one but has thrown them all in the rubbish heap.) While many Pentecostals hold to scriptures that are out of balance they are wonderful and God fearing folks. Enough said, I know I am in a lot of trouble now as I have "stuck my neck way out tonight." God bless ya one and all, InGodITrust |
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3 | The APOCALYPSE CODE. | Bible general Archive 3 | kalos | 189767 | ||
What is dispensationalism? ____________________ "I don't want to say any more than that about dispensationalism. I don't believe there are two different kinds of salvation. I don't believe there are two different covenants. I don't believe there is a difference between the kingdom of God and the kingdom of heaven. I don't believe the Sermon on the Mount is for some future age. I don't believe that you can hack up New Testament books--some for the Jews and some for the Church. I think that the only thing the Bible really holds up in that kind of system [i.e., dispensationalism] is that there is a future for Israel, and that's an exegetical issue." ____________________ (The following Question was asked by a member of the congregation at Grace Community Church in Panorama City, California, and Answered by their pastor, John MacArthur Jr.) Source: www.biblebb.com/files/macqa/70-16-9.htm 'Question 'What is dispensationalism? And what is your position, from Scripture, on the subject? 'Answer 'I will try to condense this because I don't want to get too bogged down. Dispensationalism is a system. It is a system that got, sort of, out of control. I think it started out with a right understanding. The earliest and most foundational and helpful comprehension of dispensationalism was: '"That the Bible taught a unique place for Israel and that the Church could not fulfill God's promises to Israel, therefore, there is a still a future and a kingdom involving the salvation and the restoration and the reign of the nation Israel (historical Jews)." 'Dispensationalism at that level, (if we just take that much of it, and that's all I want to take of it, that's where I am on that), dispensationalism became the term for something that grew out of that and got carried away because it got more, and more, and more compounded. Not only was there a distinction between the Church and Israel, but there was a distinction between the new covenant for the Church, and the new covenant for Israel. And then there could become a distinction between the Kingdom of God and the Kingdom of Heaven; and there could become a distinction in the teaching of Jesus, between what He said for this age and what He said for the Millennial Age; and they started to even go beyond that; and then there were some books in the New Testament for the Church and some books in the New Testament for the Jews, and it just kept going and going and going until it became this very confounded kind of system... 'I really believe that they got carried away and started imposing on Scripture things that aren't in Scripture. For example, traditionally, dispensationalism says, "The Sermon on the Mount (Matthew 5-7) has nothing to do with us, so we don't need to worry about it." When I went through the Sermon on the Mount in writing my commentary, as well, I pointed out how foolish that is.' (...) There Is A Real Future For Israel 'If you take a literal approach to Scripture, then you cannot conclude anything other than that God has a future for Israel. What that means is that the Church is distinct from Israel, and when God is through with the Church, and takes the church to glory then He brings that time of Jacob's distress, that we read about earlier, purges, redeems Israel, and the kingdom comes. 'I don't want to say any more than that about dispensationalism. I don't believe there are two different kinds of salvation. I don't believe there are two different covenants. I don't believe there is a difference between the kingdom of God and the kingdom of heaven. I don't believe the Sermon on the Mount is for some future age. I don't believe that you can hack up New Testament books--some for the Jews and some for the Church. I think that the only thing the Bible really holds up in that kind of system is that there is a future for Israel, and that's an exegetical issue.' To read more go to: www.biblebb.com/files/macqa/70-16-9.htm |
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4 | The APOCALYPSE CODE. | Bible general Archive 3 | InGodITrust | 189768 | ||
kalos, My friend, obviously you don't understand what I do about dispensationalism. I have followed John MacArthur probibly longer than you have been alive. Honestly, your own words before you quote John MacArthur condradict what MacArthur is stating. You apparantly don't understand the balanced Biblical view of dispensationalism as I and MacArthur do. I couldn't agree more with John. I firmly believe that the church and Israel are completely seperate, "I am Jewish and born again." Please "don't judge a book by it's cover." (and if you do please read mine) If I misunderstood you please except my appology but your initial statement contradicts what MacArthur and a correct position on dispensationalism is all about. Sincerely at your service, InGodITrust |
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5 | The APOCALYPSE CODE. | Bible general Archive 3 | kalos | 189770 | ||
InGodITrust, Please read again what I posted. Everything in quotation marks in that post was written by John MacArthur, including the pull quote at the beginning of the post. There are no words of my own before I quote John MacArthur. Moreover, I am in complete agreement with the quotation by MacArthur. If I did not make my meaning clear in my previous post, then the fault is mine. It was my failure to communicate clearly. Shalom, Kalos |
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6 | The APOCALYPSE CODE. | Bible general Archive 3 | InGodITrust | 189774 | ||
Kalos, My sincerest appology. Unfortunately "after" I posted a response is when I realized it was part of the MacArthur quote. I am a staunch defender of dispensationalism and Dr.John MacArthur. Like so many things in Christianity what started out as Biblically based truth, that of the original dispensationalist teaching, has been all turned around and twisted to where, now, it is being attacked without qualification. I too realized after looking at your personal profile, that there is no way I have known MacArthur longer than you've been alive (I'm 59) Again, my apology, not beena an easy day for me. Hank Hanegraaff has stirred up all kinds of problems for Biblical dispensationalism. Also, I am a die-hard to the death defender of the Jews and Israel to a fault.... We (remember I used to be a gentle) owe everything to God's chosen the Jews, as the gentiles were grafted in to the original roots of Judaism. Many, if not most, of America's churches are turning their back on the Jews and making claims that "the church is spiritual Israel." Of course this has been prophesied but it sickens me and scares me that America is headed for doom. God bless America as I too fought for her and our freedoms in Southeast Asia. Anyway Kalos, I violated my own sacred rules and was unfair and unkind to your first response. Please forgive me and let's move on. (I love John MacArthur, have followed him since he graduated from Talbot.) InGodITrust |
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7 | The APOCALYPSE CODE. | Bible general Archive 3 | Hank | 189780 | ||
Your apology to kalos saved me from the unpleasant task of reading you the riot act, which I would have too, because your response to my dear brother kalos was both inaccurate and out of line, not to mention hasty and acerbic. John (kalos) is one of the "pioneers" of SBF and has served it admirably for years. He deserved no such treatment from you or anyone else. ..... You make some fine posts and we're happy to have you aboard, believe me. But most of us from time to time are guilty of posting first and thinking later, and need a reminder now and then to guard our words carefully and to make every effort to be as accurate in what we say as we possibly can. God's blessings to you. --Hank | ||||||