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1 | Properly Interpreting the Bible | Bible general Archive 3 | kalos | 158866 | ||
Did all the world go after Christ? [Note: In the following quote the discussion is not about the English word all. Rather it is a discussion of the meaning(s) of the Greek word that is translated all in the English NT.] NASB Luke 6:30 "Give to everyone (3956) who asks of you, and whoever takes away what is yours, do not demand it back. Strong's Number: 3956 Transliterated Word: Pas 'Definition '1. individually a. each, every, any, all, the whole, everyone, all things, everything '2. collectively a. some of all types '..."the whole world has gone after him" Did all the world go after Christ? '"then went all Judea, and were baptized of him in Jordan." Was all Judea, or all Jerusalem, baptized in Jordan? '"Ye are of God, little children, and the whole world lieth in the wicked one". Does the whole world there mean everybody? 'The words "world" and "all" are used in some seven or eight senses in Scripture, and it is very rarely the "all" means all persons, taken individually. The words are generally used to signify that Christ has redeemed some of all sorts -- some Jews, some Gentiles, some rich, some poor -- and has not restricted His redemption to either Jew or Gentile...' (New Testament Greek - StudyLight.org) Grace to you, Kalos |
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2 | Properly Interpreting the Bible | Bible general Archive 3 | Morant61 | 158925 | ||
Greetings Kalos! May I briefly post am alternative treatment of this word? The words 'all', 'whole', ect..., refer to exactly what they say in the Greek, unless they are modified in some manner. For instance, in Matt. 2:16, the word 'all' is modified by the phrase, "the boys in Bethlehem and its vicinity who were two years old and under". I don't know of any instances where an unmodified 'all' would mean less than all. ;-) The examples that Studylight.org uses to prove otherwise are not convincing. In the first case, the Pharisees said that the 'whole world' had gone after Him. Whether or not their statement is factual is not the point. They were probably using hyperbole, but that doesn't change the meaning of the word 'all' or 'whole'. In the second case, who are we to question a clear statement of Scripture. If Scripture says all Judea was baptized, then I believe all Judea was baptized. There is no counter statement that would demand us to understand the statement differently, only our 'assumption' that all Judea could not have been baptized. The last example from 1 John 5:19 ignores the context of 1 John. John distinguishes between the 'world' and believers. The whole world does 'lie in the evil one'. So, the word 'all' can refer to a sub-group when it is modified by other words, but otherwise, it simply means 'all'. :-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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3 | Properly Interpreting the Bible | Bible general Archive 3 | kalos | 158928 | ||
Tim: I do appreciate your post. Iron sharpens iron. Anytime someone causes me to dig deeper into a subject and examine my evidence, my reasons, for accepting a particular interpretation of Scripture, it is an opportunity for my edification and further understanding. 'Strong's Number: 3956 'Transliterated Word: Pas 'Definition '1. individually a. each, every, any, all, the whole, everyone, all things, everything '2. collectively a. some of all types' May I ask, how do you reconcile Luke 6:30 and 2 Thessalonians 3:10? If Strongs is wrong and "some of all types" is not a valid definition of "Pas", are we indeed to encourage sloth, irresponsibility, and laziness by being indiscriminate in our giving to individuals? If the ONLY definition of "Pas" is "each, every, any, all, the whole, everyone, all things, everything", then we can ignore the plain text meaning and implications of 2 Th 3:10 and feed those who will not work. NASB Luke 6:30 "Give to everyone (Strong's# 3956) who asks of you, and whoever takes away what is yours, do not demand it back." NASB 2 Thessalonians 3:10 For even when we were with you, we used to give you this order: if anyone is not willing to work, then he is not to eat, either. Grace to you, Kalos |
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4 | Properly Interpreting the Bible | Bible general Archive 3 | Morant61 | 158933 | ||
Greetings Kalos! Just to clarify, I didn't say that Strong was wrong. What I said was that 'all' only refers to 'types' when it is modified by the text. 'All' dogs refers to only dogs not cats. 'All' animals would refer to animals, not people. But, when unmodified, it simply means 'all'. :-) As for your example, the context provides the key. Luke 6 is dealing with unjust acts of taking, not acts of charity. If someone strikes our check, we are to turn the other as well. If someone takes our cloak, we are to give our tunic as well (v. 29). Therefore, the contexts of the two passages are different. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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