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1 | Does child die for fathers sin? | Bible general Archive 3 | Truthfisher | 174409 | ||
In 2 Samuel 12 God strikes the child of David and Bathsheba and the child dies. Deut. 24:16 speaks about children not being put to death for their fathers and that a person shall be put to death for their own sin. This verse seems to be echoed in Ezekial 18:20 along with the rest of that chapter. I'm having trouble reconciling these passages.. What am I missing? | ||||||
2 | Does child die for fathers sin? | Bible general Archive 3 | jlhetrick | 174410 | ||
Hello Truthfisher, Welcome to the forum. I just completed a rather lengthy response to your post, but after clicking "Preview Answer" and then the back button every word was gone. Very frustrating. Anyway, I don't have time now to go through it all but I want to offer some feedback. The gist of what I had to say was that I don't believe that the child's death in 2 Samuel was a direct result of David's sin, but rather a consequence. In other words, it doesn't appear to have been a "wage" of David's sin, but a necessary consequence. notice that Nathan said "...by this deed you HAVE GIVEN OCCASION TO THE ENEMIES OF THE LORD TO BLASPHEME...(emphasis added). I elaborated on this in my prior post, but let me just say this here. Could it be that God was protecting the lineage; the throne? If the child would have been allowed to live, would he have succeeded the throne of David? I see the child's death as a "consequence" rather than a "wage". Regarding Deut. 24:16 we have a completely different context. Here, the parameters of man's justice are set. God determined what would be legitimate concerning man taking the life of man. But man has no authority to hold God to those same standards. Again, I elaborated on this and will again if necessary. Finally, Ezekiel 18:20 needs to be considered in the context of the whole chapter. A significant amount of space was used to make a point here. It's important here to recognize that the passage always refers to accountability. In other words, each person referred to (son and father) is referred to in regard to their own accountable behavior. That is, faithfulness or wickedness. The message appears to be that one is not condemned by his father's sin. We surely can not conclude that a father's sin will not result in the death of his child. A drunk driver with his child in the car would be a good example. The father crashes because he is too impared to drive and the child dies. Hope this adds to your consideration on the topic. Sorry I lost the more in-depth post. Jeff |
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3 | Does child die for fathers sin? | Bible general Archive 3 | Truthfisher | 174412 | ||
Thanks Jeff, You made some good points. I hadn't thought about "God protecting the lineage, the throne." Do you feel that there's a difference with Solomon because David and Bathsheba are married at this point? Could you elaborate more? As you mentioned that "man has no authority to hold God to those same standards" From your response, that seems to be where I'm gettin' in a rut. Some other passages that I think fall into this discussion are Joshua 7:25 Achan's sons and daughters are stoned and then burned (were they co-conspirators, were they older?) and Daniel's accusers, their wives and children were all thrown into the lions den. That's Daniel 6:24 .... I hope I'm not throwin' too many logs on the fire! I'm sincerely trying to get this.. |
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4 | Does child die for fathers sin? | Bible general Archive 3 | jlhetrick | 174419 | ||
We know that marriage is an institution ordained by God, and we are talking about lineage at this point as well as the throne of David. To me, as I am understanding it, this is a good example of God’s sovereignty. What He has ordained will come to pass. What He plans regarding men He works out in spite of men and their choices or behaviors. Consider Absalom, the eldest living son of David at the time of Bathsheba’s child’s death. As the eldest living son, Absalom would be in line for the throne. We know that Absalom was the fruit of polygamy and we know that it worked out that he did not succeed the throne. Very specifically, I believe that Solomon was chosen to succeed his father and God worked through the details to accomplish His purpose. I haven’t studied the issue enough to really support this in depth. I will try to respond to the other passages you mentioned in your last post but don’t have the time now. I’m busy getting ready for a 4th cook out and my grandson is demanding attention. God bless, Jeff |
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