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1 | final round of "contradictions" | Bible general Archive 2 | Crossland | 102888 | ||
The rest of it: (sorry i did this in reverse order, i am a newbie :-) From Jeremiah: God lies to Zedekiah again by telling him that he will die in peace and be buried with his fathers. But later (2 Kg.25:7 and Jer.52:10-11) he dies a violent death in a foreign land. 34:5 All those who move to Egypt will die by the sword, famine, or pestilence. None "shall escape from the evil" that comes directly from God. But many, including Jews, have moved to Egypt and most seem to have escaped from God's promised evil. 42:15-18, 22 God prophesies that Babylon will never again be inhabited. But it has been inhabited constantly since the prophecy was supposedly made, and is inhabited still today. 50:39 God says that Babylon will be desolate and uninhabited forever. He says that only dragons will live there. But Babylon has been dragon-free and continuously inhabited since then. 51:26, 29, 37, 43, 62, 64 God promised Zedekiah (Jer.34:5) that he would die peacefully and be buried with his fathers. But here we see that he died a miserable death in foreign land. 52:10-11 From Micah: "But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting." The gospel of Matthew (2:5-6) claims that Jesus' birth in Bethlehem fulfils this prophecy. But this is unlikely for two reasons. "Bethlehem Ephratah" in Micah 5:2 refers not to a town, but to a clan: the clan of Bethlehem, who was the son of Caleb's second wife, Ephrathah (1 Chr.2:18, 2:50-52, 4:4). The prophecy (if that is what it is) does not refer to the Messiah, but rather to a military leader, as can be seen from verse 5:6. This leader is supposed to defeat the Assyrians, which, of course, Jesus never did. It should also be noted that Matthew altered the text of Micah 5:2 by saying: "And thou Bethlehem, in the land of Juda" rather than "Bethlehem Ephratah" as is said in Micah 5:2. He did this, intentionally no doubt, to make the verse appear to refer to the town of Bethlehem rather than the family clan.5:2 Moving onto the New Testament: From Matthew: Jesus mistakenly tells his followers that he will return and establish his kingdom within their lifetime. 16:28 Jesus predicts the end of the world within the lifetime of his listeners. 23:36 From Hebrews: In Genesis (13:15, 15:18, 17: and Exodus (32:13) God promises Abraham and his descendants "the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession." But here Paul admits that God's promise went unfulfilled. 11:9-13 From Peter: Peter wrongly believed that he was living in the "last times." 1:5, 7, 20, 5:4 Peter mistakenly believes that "the end of all things is at hand." 4:7 From 1 John: John thinks he is living in "the last times." He "knows" this because he sees so many antichrists around. 2:18, 4:3 John warns his followers to get ready because Jesus is coming soon. 2:28 John expects to live to see Jesus return. 3:2 |
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2 | final round of "contradictions" | Bible general Archive 2 | Hank | 102899 | ||
Crossland - Even though your battery of questions is quite long, I'd nursed the notion to take a segment of them at a time and attempt to render a biblical answer. Having read through your list, however, I've changed my mind and here's why. A pure question that seeks information is a forthright question, one not encumbered by interpretation, presumption, bias, commentary, or presupposition. All of your questions contain one of more of these elements; thus, to respond, one would be burdened with the task not only of attempting to answer the question itself but of trying to overcome the hurdles imposed by so many assumptions that appear within the questions. The ambient assumptions in which the questions are encased does lead one, I must say candidly, to impugn the motives for asking such "loaded" questions on a Forum such as this. Please don't misunderstand me. I do not say the questions themselves are unworthy and should not be asked. What I object to, and vigorously, is the pre-judgmental, presumptive way in which they are posed, as for example, "Jesus mistakenly tells his followers that" ... or, "Peter wrongly believed that" Comments like these do no honor to the Bible..... Finally, it seems to me that it would be characteristic of whoever had the head for the kind of minute research required in order to formulate this set of questions would be able to research the answers to them, given the vast amount of biblical exposition and exegesis readily availble on the internet and elsewhere. --Hank | ||||||
3 | final round of "contradictions" | Bible general Archive 2 | Crossland | 102950 | ||
I will say again that i am sorry for not being clear on my own views. I am a believer and believe that those "contradictions" are nothing but smoke and mirros. All i did was repost what was sent to me by an atheist...I am researching the answers myself and part of that research was posting in this forum. So if anyone does have answers to any of them it would be GREAT. Because if i can at least go through some of them and prove they are not contradictions then that will at least be enough to say the rest are not contradictions either. Get what i am saying? I do need help in this endeavor, Jesusman, thank you for your response. God bless all, Ryan Crossland Oh yeah, Hank, if you do have insight and knowledge on any or all of the so called contradictions that would be AWESOME! This is not some test, i am a believer trying to defend the Bible to skeptics and if we cant do that then how can we say we are right in what we believe! thanks. |
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4 | final round of "contradictions" | Bible general Archive 2 | Hank | 102965 | ||
Crossland - Thanks for your clarification of your role and theological position relevant to your questions. I believe most of us on the Forum will be happy to work with you in answering your questions. Perhaps at this time it would be a good idea for you to simplify, collate, and repost as many of those questions which remain unanswered that you feel are important to you. This simplification and collation would make it easier for other users to address any remaining questions. ..... Regarding your question about Adam's ability to name the animals in Genesis 2:19-20, I recommend that you go to www.icr.org and type in "Adam name animals" in the home-page search box, or go to the following URL to view an article called "Could Adam Name All Those Animals?" The URL is www.icr.org/pubs/imp/imp-265.htm. --Hank | ||||||
5 | final round of "contradictions" | Bible general Archive 2 | Crossland | 102970 | ||
Thanks Hank...I will put together a much better post, and again i am sorry for the borderline chaotic posts. A little more history...I am a memeber of another message board that is 40,000 people strong and i am literally only 1 of MAYBE 3 or 4 christians on that site. I started out in the political message boards (the site has probably 20-30 different subjects for message boards) and have ended up in a "Thought and Awareness" message board where there is a TON of discussion about religion and mostly the Bible and christianity. Most of the talk is mocking and bashing our faith and the Bible, so i have taken up the position of defending my faith which hasled me to this board for help. I will say that a lot of the members are scientists and pholosophers and psychiatrists etc etc Also 50 percent of the members are from outside the USA. So needless to say it is as liberal of a place as it gets, it makes liberal americans look like right wing conservative nuts! LOL So i will be posting a better post so that we can better respond to it. I REALLY do appreciate any and all help i recieve from you all, because i am not afraid to admit that i dont know everything and that there are many many people who know a lot more than me--which is why i am here. thanks all and God bless! Ryan Crossland | ||||||