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1 | Hindering layman from participating | Bible general Archive 2 | Wild Olive Shoot | 150324 | ||
Hebrews 3:12-14(NASB) 12Take care, brethren, that there not be in any one of you an evil, unbelieving heart that falls away from the living God. 13But encourage one another day after day, as long as it is still called "Today," so that none of you will be hardened by the deceitfulness of sin. 14For we have become partakers of Christ, if we hold fast the beginning of our assurance firm until the end, Hebrews 10:23-25(NASB) 23Let us hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering, for He who promised is faithful; 24and let us consider how to stimulate one another to love and good deeds, 25not forsaking our own assembling together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another; and all the more as you see the day drawing near. It appears to me that there are those participating in this forum that want to limit others or strip them of their authority or rather their entitlement to respond on a particular subject. This is a Bible Study Forum, correct? Then shouldn’t we allow everyone to bring a Scripture to light and then engage in a Christian-like correspondence on the particular Scripture? If someone is mistaken in their interpretation or understanding of a passage, isn’t it the responsibility of those who participate in this forum to correct them? Rather than hindering them and ridiculing someone for posting their view, shouldn’t we be encouraging one another to seek the truth? Postings by some on this forum are not effective in leading another to the truth and possibly, eventually, preventing them from misleading another. Believe it or not, not all who have questions or an interpretation of a Scripture are Bible Scholars and some do in fact need to be led to the truth. In fact, if all of us were Bible Scholars, there would really be no reason for this forum to exist, now would there? Taken from “Resources: About the Forum: “For the layman, it's a 24-hour source of evolving Bible study notes with which to contrast and compare”. How do you expect the layman to compare and contrast and ultimately learn if they are discouraged from responding and conversing with those who are attempting to correct them? Isn’t it our responsibility to witness to those who know not and strengthen those who are weak in the faith? Mark 2:14-15(NASB) 14As He passed by, He saw Levi the son of Alphaeus sitting in the tax booth, and He said to him, "Follow Me!" And he got up and followed Him. 15And it happened that He was reclining at the table in his house, and many tax collectors and sinners were dining with Jesus and His disciples; for there were many of them, and they were following Him. Levi gives us a great example of witnessing. The very day he believed in Christ, his witness began. How much do we think Levi knew at the time? Let even those new to Christ ask and then teach them appropriately. In our discernment of one another, we look to actions and deeds of another in order to verify their witness of Christ. In this forum, it is the words in which we convey through type. Ridiculing and demeaning words are not indicative of an effective witness. In this Christian’s opinion, they are unbecoming of someone who is supposedly in a position to strengthen a weaker brother in the Word of God. James 3:13-18(NIV) 13Who is wise and understanding among you? Let him show it by his good life, by deeds done in the humility that comes from wisdom. 14But if you harbor bitter envy and selfish ambition in your hearts, do not boast about it or deny the truth. 15Such "wisdom" does not come down from heaven but is earthly, unspiritual, of the devil. 16For where you have envy and selfish ambition, there you find disorder and every evil practice. 17But the wisdom that comes from heaven is first of all pure; then peace-loving, considerate, submissive, full of mercy and good fruit, impartial and sincere. 18Peacemakers who sow in peace raise a harvest of righteousness. If we could learn to tame our tongues, we could effectively reach many more rather than turning them away. So my question(s) is this, why do some feel it acceptable to ridicule those who are weak in the faith and why do others condone it instead of pointing it out? Could it not be detrimental to another brother who is weak and is looking for encouragement from other Christians? In Christ WOS |
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2 | Hindering layman from participating | Bible general Archive 2 | kalos | 150325 | ||
WOS: Could you be more specific? On this forum, who is it that ridicules those who are weak in the faith? Could you give us an example of a post in which someone is being ridiculed? You can identify the post either by quoting from it or posting the ID# of the post. Kalos |
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3 | Hindering layman from participating | Bible general Archive 2 | Wild Olive Shoot | 150331 | ||
Following are only a few of the more recent cases. Now I am fairly new to the forum and have taken to heart many of the inspiring and forthright answers and notes rendered and believe me they have helped and in many ways, and others as well, as I am able to convey the thoughts collected on this forum to others. I believe in being harsh when required and appropriate in order to convey a point when correcting and edifying, but when posts can be taken as demeaning, don’t we risk turning some away from searching for the truth in God’s word? I’m a little more persistent than most, but should I have not been, and received answers similar to those posted below, I know I would have shied away from furthering my knowledge in this forum. Now I’m including some of those, knowing full and well, to be expecting the backlash. But I’m doing it because it seems the thing to do, and because you asked. I mean no offense by picking those below, just showing examples. Maybe I’m being too critical and sensitive. If so, please tell me so and forgive me and I’ll not mention it again. But my questions still stand. Like I mentioned in my previous post, we are all not Scholars and some need to be taught truth per Scripture but effectively doing so would not include demeaning replies. I believe that is one of the premises this forum functions on and I’m so thankful it does. WOS What about the Forum "experts" who are not only amateurs but armatures as well? In electricity, an armature is the rotating part of a dynamo. Forum armatures rotate, i.e, go around in circles, all the time. An armature is also defined as the moving part of an electromagnetic device, such as a buzzer or loudspeaker. Forum armatures also buzz and speak loudly. ..... In biology, an armature is a protective covering, such as teeth, claws, thorns, or the shell of a turtle. Forum armatures will bite and claw you if you challenge them, and if you ask them for scriptural proof of their wild musings, they will hide in their shell like a turtle. isn't incredible that there are people calling themselves Christians whose spiritual discernment is so dim and Bible knowledge so limited that they fall for the absurd blunders of theological dunderheads Duh,… I thought everbody knowed heresy was chocolate candy. My daddy he used to buy me a Heresy Bar as a treat for being good, which warn't very often. So she has seen a seven-foot angel? I wonder how she goes about measuring angels I would have thought that an idea like that would be discussed as a philosophy, among those who have no respect for the scriptures. I PASTED THIS FROM YOUR REPLY: God does not "help and try." WHAT A SAD WORLD YOU MUST LIVE IN |
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4 | Hindering layman from participating | Bible general Archive 2 | kalos | 150342 | ||
WOS: Thank you for answering my question. Kalos P.S. What part of the following (from my post) do you not agree with? 'God doesn't try. He is all-powerful. God doesn't attempt. He knows everything. Whatever He intends to accomplish He does, in fact, accomplish.' * * * * * * * * * * * * * revelationcommentary.org www.solagroup.org In addition to commentary on the entire book of Revelation, this site includes a glossary of terms related to the biblical end times, plus answers to common questions about the false prophet and second coming. |
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5 | Hindering layman from participating | Bible general Archive 2 | Wild Olive Shoot | 150373 | ||
nothing I can disagree with in that. Elaborate please. |
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6 | Hindering layman from participating | Bible general Archive 2 | kalos | 150401 | ||
Does God Try? [WOS: I will gladly elaborate on the previous quote. Here is the original article in which the quote appears. Grace to you. --Kalos] Some hold that God can be trying to speak to someone, but some human limitation gets in His way. 'God doesn't try. He is all-powerful. God doesn't attempt. He knows everything. Whatever He intends to accomplish He does, in fact, accomplish. 'Now I've got another question. What about this sense in many evangelical circles, especially in charismatic ones, that God is working hard to speak to individuals, but they don't "hear His voice" because they simply aren't listening? What of the notion that the ability to hear the voice of God requires we simply quiet ourselves and get in tune? 'Many have bought the idea that optimal Christian living involves "experiencing God" in a special manner: hearing His voice and getting special directives or assignments from Him. For those who say, "I don't hear God," the rejoinder is often, "He's been trying to talk to you, but you weren't listening." (...) 'I know of no place in the Bible, ladies and gentlemen, where God attempted to speak and He wasn't heard. Frequently, He wasn't obeyed, true enough. Certainly, people hardened their hearts against the revelation–which itself was clear–and refused to believe that which was spoken. But I know of no case where God was speaking and He just couldn't get through because people were not listening. 'For goodness sake, we're talking about special revelation. Paul's says in Romans 1 that even general revelation is so obvious and so forceful that people must actively suppress the truth in unrighteousness in order to ignore it. 'As far as I can tell, the Bible knows of no such thing as God trying to speak, but is incapable of being heard because fallen men and women have somehow closed Him off, denied His ability, and so can't hear Him or are just simply too busy to hear the still, small voice of God. 'This is simply a matter of consistent reasoning. It seems to me that if we hold that God can be trying to speak to someone, but some human limitation gets in His way, then we have to accept as valid the same objection against the authority of Scripture and surrender our confidence that God could guarantee the outcome of the writing of the Bible. 'If, however, we say that God is big enough to overcome any human limitations so He can guarantee the word-for-word accuracy of the Scripture, then the same sovereign power is available to God to speak to any individual when He so chooses. God doesn't "try" to speak and not get heard. 'Now, if that's true, then we don't have to spend any time quieting our lives to hear the voice of God as He "tries" to penetrate all the clamor. Instead, we can simply turn our gaze upon the only voice of God we are ever commanded to hear, to know, and to obey. That is the written, fully inspired, fully accurate Word of God: the Bible.' (www.str.org/free/commentaries/theology/doesgodt.htm) * * * * * * * * * * * * * revelationcommentary.org www.solagroup.org In addition to commentary on the entire book of Revelation, this site includes a glossary of terms related to the biblical end times, plus answers to common questions about the false prophet and second coming. |
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7 | Hindering layman from participating | Bible general Archive 2 | Wild Olive Shoot | 150413 | ||
Kalos, Thank you for your response. But it seems you have digressed, as I don’t believe the article you posted answered my original questions or I do not understand fully what you are trying to get across. “So my question(s) is this, why do some feel it acceptable to ridicule those who are weak in the faith and why do others condone it instead of pointing it out? Could it not be detrimental to another brother who is weak and is looking for encouragement from other Christians”? However, the article you posted I think may be in reference to an earlier post of mine concerning the vehicles God uses to convey His Word. Am I right on that? I do not disagree with anything the article stated. My point, and maybe I failed to properly convey my thoughts, which I’ve found I often do, was not that God fails to be heard. Simply that we may at first fail to recognize that it is God speaking. One of the examples I used was of Samuel and Eli when the Lord spoke to Samuel and Samuel failed to recognize that it was the Lord speaking to him until Eli informed him of who it actually was. (1 Samuel 3:1-10) The Lord was still heard, and truly when He speaks He is heard, no matter our position, but in our finite minds, sometimes we fail to recognize it. But God established and knew His Word would be conveyed and the vehicle used was Eli in this instance. As is the point with misinterpreted Scripture, God does not fail to be heard, we fail to hear or understand and yes, there are those who simply refuse to respond or obey. God is sovereign and therefore I put know limitation or constraints on God Almighty. He speaks however He wishes and whatever He wills it be done. But as I stated previously, this doesn’t necessarily respond to my original question in this thread, or I’m simply failing to see the correlation. Can you please elaborate somewhat further so that I may understand the reason for taking this particular path? WOS |
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8 | Hindering layman from participating | Bible general Archive 2 | Wild Olive Shoot | 150462 | ||
To all: After seeing what I have seen today, (the defense of homosexuality) I sincerely revoke my premature accusations of some participants being too harsh. I now truly see there are those who wish to only debate and twist the Word and they force some to become harsh and risk ultimately harming those truly seeking guidance and truth and knowledge. Take the bad with the good I guess. If I have offended anyone with the statements I made yesterday, I am truly sorry and I will make it my business to mind my own business and let harshness beget harshness. Truly mystifying what some do to the word of God. My prayers go out for you. In Christ WOS. |
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