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1 | How's praying in the Holy Spirit tongues | Bible general Archive 2 | Searcher56 | 148518 | ||
Ray, greetings, It is difficult, for me, to understand God, His nature, attributes and names ... as well as the Trinity. I see the Holy Spirit intercedes for us (Rom 8:26), as well as Jesus (vs 34, Heb 7:25). They intercede for us to the Father. I do see the Father as the Theos in Romans 8:28, if it is a singular noun. Steve I am not sure if "God is spirit" (John 4:24) indicates His nature, as is "God is light" (1 John 1:5), "God is love" (1 John 4:8). |
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2 | How's praying in the Holy Spirit tongues | Bible general Archive 2 | DocTrinsograce | 148534 | ||
Hi, Steve! Please, excuse my jumping into the middle of a discussion... Isn't it awesome that our God cannot be pinned down by definitions? All we can say conclusively about Him is what He has revealed of Himself -- both in the general revelation of nature and the special revelation of of His Word! Then, He grants us His Holy Spirit, by Whom our very nature is changed so that we can believe these truths! The orthodox Christian take on the passages you cite: "God is spirit" (John 4:24) is a statement of God's being. "God is light" (1 John 1:5) is a metaphor. "God is love" (1 John 4:8) is one of God's communicable attributes. There are actually many things we can know about Him, His nature, His character, His attributes, etc. Of course, the sum of them doesn't begin to circumscribe Him. We will never completely know Him, because He is the Infinite God. Only God can fully know God. In Him, Doc |
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3 | How's praying in the Holy Spirit tongues | Bible general Archive 2 | Ray | 148568 | ||
Hi Doc, Everyone is welcome to jump into a middle of a discussion. A couple questions, though. You wrote, "Then, He grants us His Holy Spirit, by Whom our very nature is changed so that we can believe these truths." What Scripture did you have in mind for this sentence? 1) Is "orthodox" the word you wanted to use when you gave us "The orthodox Christian take on the passages"? The King James for John 4:24 reads "God is a Spirit". Would you say that that version was not giving the orthodox view for the verse? The NASB for 1 John 1:5 has a copyright change. "God is light" was changed to "God is Light." Should we beware the version as now being unorthodox? I think not. I would say that the "jury is still out" and that Christians have not decided yet how it should be; lower or upper case. 2) I think that 1 John 1:5 compared with 1 Timothy 6:16 would be a meaningful study. 1 John 1:6, NASB, 1995, "If we say we have fellowship with Him and yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth; 7 but if we walk in the Light as He **Himself is in the Light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin." 1 Timothy 6:16, NKJ, "who alone has immortality, dwelling in unapproachable **(l)Light, whom no man has seen or can see, to whom be honor and everlasting power. Amen." I enjoy talking about these "things" and hope you do also. God richly supplies us with all things to enjoy. 1 Timothy 6:17. From the heart, Ray |
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4 | How's praying in the Holy Spirit tongues | Bible general Archive 2 | DocTrinsograce | 148626 | ||
Hi, brother Ray! I've been praying for you! Regarding the Holy Spirit enabling us to believe, please see John 16:13-15, 1 Thes 1:5-7, 2 Thes 2:13-14, 1 Peter 1:12 and 22, 1 John 5:6-9, etc. The Holy Spirit is always at the root of all truth, knowledge, and wisdom. "Would you say that that version was not giving the orthodox view for the verse?" No, I wouldn't say that. I'd say that orthodoxy has always held a consistent view of what is meant by "spirit." "Should we beware the version [light versus Light] as now being unorthodox?" No, I think one could look at easily either way. Orthodoxy has always held that it is a metaphor. (So have we all, unless we think the light from our computer screen is somehow diety!) God is also a "consuming fire." Obviously, that is a metaphor as well. I enjoy as well -- indeed love -- the interaction we all share as we deliberate over the Word. It's iron sharpening iron! In Him, Doc |
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