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1 | Hank - Diet ??? | Bible general Archive 2 | Morant61 | 146830 | ||
Greetings Merv! There is no 'command' to worship on the first day of the week, but there are Scriptures that mention worship taking place on the first day of the week. We know from history that the early church certainly did worship on the first day of the week. Further, Scripture clearly condemns the condemnation of others regarding Sabbath days. Col. 2:16-17 says, "Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. 17 These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ." Romans 14 also speaks to this issue. So, if someone wants to worship on Saturday, I would say more power to them. But, if someone wants to worship on Wednesday, I would also say more power to them! ;-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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2 | Hank - Diet ??? | Bible general Archive 2 | swerv | 147244 | ||
Yes - early Church also persecuted and killed thousands who did not conform to their beliefs. Kept the Bible hidden so not until 1300 years later the people began to see the error in doctrine. But nowhere in any of the 3-4 1st day references is the word worship mentioned. Paul had a meeting where he preached. He was going away for a long time. The passgae is mentioned due to the man being healed from falling out the window not because to show the Sabbath was now on the 1st day. Jesus and Paul custom was to go to the synogogue on the Sabbath. How coem people want to hold to 1st day references but not to the Sabbath references. Oh ya - the reason is - they call what Paul and Jesus did was keeping the OT law. Humm - but Jesus clearly said the NT covenant would have the laws written on the heart. What exactly were those laws. I guess it was 9 of 10 commandments which makes logical sense considering that the Sabbath was actually instituted prior to sin entering the world. Therefore it was apart of God's perfect creation. Ok it makes sense that the only commandment "changed by a supposedly unchanging God" was the Sabbath. Does this really make sense given the history of corruption of the early Church in how they paganized Christianity. Two years ago I would have held you position but I feel scripture and the leading of the Holy Spirit has shown me the clear truth and the error of traditional doctrine. P.S. - Rom. 14 - does not refer to Sabbath but "holy feast days - which are also called sabbaths" This is the same for Col. 2:16. These feast days (sabbaths) all pointed to Christs ultimate sacrifice as Perfect Lamb and to do aways with sacrifical system. Feasts (sabbaths) were a shaddow just like sacrificial systems was a shaddow of Christ. See Lev. 23:37-38 - to show difference between Sabbath (7th day Sabbath) and the added feasts). Sabbath (7th day) could not be a shaddow - it was created prior to man's sin ??? In love, Merv In love, Merv |
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3 | Hank - Diet ??? | Bible general Archive 2 | Morant61 | 147255 | ||
Greetings Merv! When exactly did the 'early church' persecute and kill thousands? If my memory serves me, the 'early church' was persecuted, not persecuting. :-) I went to Lev. 23:37-38. If you read it carefully, I beleive that you will find it supports my point my friend. V. 37 lists the 'feasts', but then v. 38 states that the offerings presented at these 'feasts' are in addition to the Lord's Sabbaths. Therefore, Lev. 23:37-38 distinguishes between 'feasts' and 'sabbaths'. The feasts are not the 'sabbaths'. This is also true of the verses I quoted. The word used is 'sabbaths', not 'feasts'. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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4 | Hank - Diet ??? | Bible general Archive 2 | swerv | 147518 | ||
Tim: No Tim ! Eary Church - meaning Roman Catholic Church - persecuted and killed 1000's of unconforming Christians. The Dark ages !!! They would not even allow people to have a copy of the Bible to judge the Truth for themselves. Now you mean early Church - the disciples and there "early" spreading to the Gentiles. Yes of course they were persecuted by Rome until Rome converted to Christianity. But there conversion was not to The Gospel that Jesus preached but was a conversion from paganism to paganized Christianity. Along with the this conversion was many, many , many pagan doctines into "so called" Chritianity" - Example Immortality of the Soul, Hell being "everlasting", Prophecy (expansion of 70 weeks of years to include a "gap" between 69th and 70th week) and the Sabbath. Sabbath is recognized worldwide as Saturday (7th) Changed by RCC even though the practise started soon after Jesus death. But Jesus predicted that false Christ's and teaching would arise soon after His death and the disciples were to be aware. Sabbaths - If you look at Lev. 22:32 - the same days called feasts are also called sabbaths. Remebers also that I beleive most times when the Bible refers to feasts and sabbaths being the same - they "sabbath" is not capitalized. But when referring to 7th day "Sabbath" it is capitalized. Another example is look at Lev. 23:3 and Lev. 25:2 - in comparion to the use of sabbath/Sabbath !!! Do not believe also that all sabbaths were also feasts. Look at Lev 23:26-32 - It was not a feast day but only a "extra" sabbath day !!! Now Tim - remember - the death of Christ relaced the ceremonial system - these feasts and sabbaths were a shaddow of the coming Christ. That is why WE do not keep these feasts now or sacrifice animals. We keep the Sabbath because it was institued in the the creation and that 7th day was made holy by God. No other day was made holy by God. Nowhere in any scripture is there any evidence that God made anyother day of the week Holy. It was Holy - Sanctified - "set-apart" so we would be able to not do any regular work and therefore use that time to worship God "convocation - gathering" and also do "good" as Jesus rubuked the Pharisees for not seeing His goods works on the Sabbath. Thanks Merv |
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